If you add the pieces of information together (announced and then
shortly cancelled J1 talks), you perfectly get the right picture.

The *problem* certainly is not the technical part.

While I disagree that the RPi is just nerd stuff (the "embedded" market
is huge), I agree however that any further delay with JavaFX on Android
& iOS is really bad.

I believe this situation is just as frustrating for the Oracle
*developers* like it is for the rest of the JavaFX community.

"Public relations" in the core sense of its meaning has completely
failed here, IMHO.

On 09/30/2013 10:03 AM, Felix Bembrick wrote:
> I am sure Oracle management "get it".  There are lots of issues here, not 
> just technical.  I am sure they want to get it perfect before they announce 
> anything. Let's hope that's why nothing has eventuated yet...
> 
>> On 30 Sep 2013, at 17:04, Tobias Bley <t...@ultramixer.com> wrote:
>>
>> I don’t understand why „all“ this people who needs JavaFX on iOS/Android 
>> does not tell it Oracles management. And I don’t understand why all this 
>> people use their time to develop all this demos and Rasp.PI stuff. Who needs 
>> it? Why don’t we develop base stuff like iOS skins, Android skins, 
>> iOS/Android widgets, RoboVM for Android, RoboVM using OpenJDK, … I really 
>> love useful stuff like the „JavaFX maven plugin“ or the „AquaFX“ project. 
>> That kind of development we need!
>>
>> Best,
>> Tobi
>>
>>
>>
>>> Am 30.09.2013 um 08:50 schrieb Felix Bembrick <felix.bembr...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> No, you are *not* the only one. We *all* need it.  In fact, without it  
>>> happening soon, JavaFX is already dead.
>>>
>>> But let's not give up yet.  Perhaps it's closer than we know. I am a glass 
>>> half full kinda guy :-)
>>>
>>>> On 30 Sep 2013, at 16:40, Tobias Bley <t...@ultramixer.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I suppose „legal reasons“….
>>>>
>>>> For me it’s very frustrating to see every year the same procedure: 
>>>> JavaFX-iOS/Android related tracks were canceled - „nerd“ stuff like 
>>>> Rasp.PI, DukePad & Co were announced. Maybe I’m really the only one who 
>>>> needs JavaFX on mobile to use JavaFX on desktop as well… :(
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Am 29.09.2013 um 18:13 schrieb Jeff Martin <j...@reportmill.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems the JFX on iOS/Android were cancelled at the last moment. I 
>>>>> tried to keep expectations low this year, but I admit I harbored secret 
>>>>> hopes based on those sessions (a few embarrassingly optimistic 
>>>>> conversations with clients notwithstanding).
>>>>>
>>>>> Last week Tomas offered this:
>>>>>
>>>>>> about cancelled sessions please contact Mr. JavaOne 
>>>>>> stephen.c...@oracle.com I believe he will give satisfactory answer.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to take him up on that satisfactory offer. Also, can we run the 
>>>>> name "DukePad" by marketing again?
>>>>>
>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> jeff
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 29, 2013, at 12:12 AM, Daniel Zwolenski <zon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The sessions aren't up yet from the looks of it. It would be great to 
>>>>>> get an overall roundup of any new announcements or directions in any 
>>>>>> case. Given this is the developer community network it would make sense 
>>>>>> in my mind to highlight stuff like that in here. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For me, I'd love it if someone could quickly sum up any announcements or 
>>>>>> sessions made about JavaFX for iOS, Android or in the deployment space? 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What happened at the sessions Tobi highlighted before 
>>>>>> (http://blog.software4java.com/?p=97), did anyone go to these and able 
>>>>>> to give us some info?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 27/09/2013, at 7:07 AM, Richard Bair <richard.b...@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The sessions, I think, are all being uploaded to Parley's 
>>>>>>> (http://www.parleys.com), although I don't see any content there yet 
>>>>>>> (not sure how long it will take them to post-process, but usually it is 
>>>>>>> pretty fast).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 2:00 PM, Daniel Zwolenski <zon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Has anyone done or seen any good roundups (text or video) of the 
>>>>>>>> JavaOne sessions relating to javafx?
>>

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