Android replaces Dalvik with ART

2013-11-07 Thread Tobias Bley
Hi,

after we reached the goal to use JavaFX on Android via Dalvik, Google announces 
the successor of Dalvik, called ART (Android Runtime). The start to move 
because of the legal issues with Java and Oracle….

http://source.android.com/devices/tech/dalvik/art.html

The question is now: How to use JFX on Android on top of ART? As I posted in my 
blog.software4java.com, we need a own JVM to embed in Android apps.

Best regards,
Tobi



Re: Android replaces Dalvik with ART

2013-11-07 Thread Stefan Fuchs

Hi,

well if I understand it correctly, ART is just an Ahead of Time compiler 
like robovm. Therefore we can only hope, that they open-source it, so 
that we can use it on iOS :).


See the German article on heise:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Dalvik-Nachfolger-Google-laedt-zum-Testen-der-neuen-Android-Runtime-ein-2041644.html

Best regards,
Stefan



Hi,

after we reached the goal to use JavaFX on Android via Dalvik, Google announces 
the successor of Dalvik, called ART (Android Runtime). The start to move 
because of the legal issues with Java and Oracle….

http://source.android.com/devices/tech/dalvik/art.html

The question is now: How to use JFX on Android on top of ART? As I posted in my 
blog.software4java.com, we need a own JVM to embed in Android apps.

Best regards,
Tobi






Re: Android replaces Dalvik with ART

2013-11-07 Thread Stephen F Northover
This is what .NET does.  There was never an interpreter for any managed 
code.


Steve

On 2013-11-07 2:54 PM, Stefan Fuchs wrote:

Hi,

well if I understand it correctly, ART is just an Ahead of Time 
compiler like robovm. Therefore we can only hope, that they 
open-source it, so that we can use it on iOS :).


See the German article on heise:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Dalvik-Nachfolger-Google-laedt-zum-Testen-der-neuen-Android-Runtime-ein-2041644.html 



Best regards,
Stefan



Hi,

after we reached the goal to use JavaFX on Android via Dalvik, Google 
announces the successor of Dalvik, called ART (Android Runtime). The 
start to move because of the legal issues with Java and Oracle….


http://source.android.com/devices/tech/dalvik/art.html

The question is now: How to use JFX on Android on top of ART? As I 
posted in my blog.software4java.com, we need a own JVM to embed in 
Android apps.


Best regards,
Tobi








Re: Android replaces Dalvik with ART

2013-11-07 Thread Richard Bair
I *really* doubt this has anything to do with the legal battle, it is much more 
likely to be the fact that Dalvik is painfully slow. Using an AOT compiler is 
not actually changing anything with regards to the fact that their development 
language is Java with a non-TCK compliant set of class libraries. I read a 
really horrible article today that was factually incorrect with regards to the 
technology (claiming that Dalvik executed Java byte-code!). I'm so used to 
reading completely bogus stuff in the press (about subjects that I know!) that 
I really wouldn't recommend believing the stated motivations unless we get 
somebody on record.

Besides which, AOT seems like a fantastic way to go, technically, so I don't 
think it really needs any more reason for it :-)

Richard

On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Tobias Bley t...@ultramixer.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 after we reached the goal to use JavaFX on Android via Dalvik, Google 
 announces the successor of Dalvik, called ART (Android Runtime). The start to 
 move because of the legal issues with Java and Oracle….
 
 http://source.android.com/devices/tech/dalvik/art.html
 
 The question is now: How to use JFX on Android on top of ART? As I posted in 
 my blog.software4java.com, we need a own JVM to embed in Android apps.
 
 Best regards,
 Tobi