Re: Has any consideration been made to move the Charts into s separate module?

2019-01-06 Thread John-Val Rose
I think we actually agree Tom. I have not established what is “core” JavaFX simply because it has never crossed my mind that some modules are “core” whereas others must (by inference) be “peripheral”. I don’t see any value in refactoring charts into their own module given that, as I said, with

Re: Has any consideration been made to move the Charts into s separate module?

2019-01-06 Thread Tom Eugelink
I'm responding to your "moving he charts to a separate JPMS  module". It would make sense to have a javafx.charts, but at least charts are not in javafx.graphics or lower. Javafx.controls is IMHO an okay-but-not-ideal JPMS module to have them in. But since they are now, it's not really worth a

Re: Has any consideration been made to move the Charts into s separate module?

2019-01-06 Thread John-Val Rose
So Tom are you saying that javafx.base and javafx.graphics are the only “core” modules in JavaFX? Has that ever been officially stated or established? How can javafx.controls or javafx.fxml not be considered core modules? There’s not much you can do with JavaFX without controls and FXML (albeit

Re: Has any consideration been made to move the Charts into s separate module?

2019-01-06 Thread Tom Eugelink
But (I assumed charts was in core as Ramon said) taking a look at the javadoc; charts are in the controls module, not in the core (javafx-base or javafx-graphics). So that seems quite ok. https://docs.oracle.com/javase/9/docs/api/javafx.controls-summary.html On 6-1-2019 02:58, John-Val Rose w

Re: Has any consideration been made to move the Charts into s separate module?

2019-01-05 Thread John-Val Rose
I doubt any JavaFX application would use ALL the features so couldn’t you make the same argument for “detachment” about many other parts of JavaFX? And what are the “core components”? That is probably a subjective question. > On 6 Jan 2019, at 00:56, Ramon Santiago wrote: > > Yes, I meant remo

Re: Has any consideration been made to move the Charts into s separate module?

2019-01-05 Thread Tom Eugelink
That does make sense... On 5-1-2019 14:56, Ramon Santiago wrote: Yes, I meant removing charts from the core of JavaFX and moving he charts to a separate JPMS module. Why? They are not really core components are they? They are dead weight in applications that never will use them. On Sat, Jan

Re: Has any consideration been made to move the Charts into s separate module?

2019-01-05 Thread Ramon Santiago
Yes, I meant removing charts from the core of JavaFX and moving he charts to a separate JPMS module. Why? They are not really core components are they? They are dead weight in applications that never will use them. On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 8:44 AM John-Val Rose wrote: > Hi Ramon, > > I personall

Re: Has any consideration been made to move the Charts into s separate module?

2019-01-05 Thread John-Val Rose
Hi Ramon, I personally have never seen or heard of any such discussion and I’m not entirely sure in which context you are using the word “module”. Do you meaning simply removing charts from the core of JavaFX or do you mean creating the charts as an actual module within JPMS? Either way, can y

Has any consideration been made to move the Charts into s separate module?

2019-01-05 Thread Ramon Santiago
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