Re: iOS Default font is wrong
I have tried simple app with several controls. Fonts in Interface Builder -
UIButton - System 15.0
UILabel - System 17.0
UITextField - System 14.0
UITextView - System 14.0
Same fontsize - 15.0 has UIButton's label created at runtime.
UIFont class methods for getting system font information return:
+ labelFontSize 17.0
+ buttonFontSize 18.0
+ smallSystemFontSize 12.0
+ systemFontSize 14.0
In fx Java_com_sun_javafx_font_MacFontFinder_getSystemFontSize returns 13.0
We can use different CTFontUIFontType in this method to return something
better than 13.0 -
e.g. with kCTFontPushButtonFontType as an argument to
CTFontCreateUIFontForLanguage() it returns 15.0, but we need to decide,
what we want to use as default. Should be our system default the size
same as for UIButton, UILabel or other control?
I was using iPad3 (iOS 7.0, Xcode 5.0).
Olda
On 10/29/13 7:32 PM, Stephen F Northover wrote:
I was going to create a dummy control (say a Button) and ask for the
font. Just an idea.
Steve
On 2013-10-29 2:18 PM, Felipe Heidrich wrote:
The code Richard sent is creating a dummy font and asking for its size.
The problem is that there are about 3 thousand different fonts on the
Mac ;-)
Here we are creating a CTFont. For Mac OS X most native apps probably
would be using a NSFont (cause that is what cocoa controls take).
Likewise on iOS I think the common font is UIFont (cause I think
that is what UIKIt controls take).
Could anyone fire up Xcode, create a dummy iOS app, create a UIFont
and see what is the size ?
Felipe
On Oct 29, 2013, at 8:40 AM, Stephen F Northover
steve.x.northo...@oracle.com wrote:
If the OS is reporting the wrong value for the default a classic
trick is to create a dummy control that normally has the font we
want and query that.
Steve
On 2013-10-29 11:21 AM, Richard Bair wrote:
Hi guys,
The default font for iOS is supposed to be System Bold 15
(according to
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17325152/what-size-font-is-the-title-in-a-default-uibutton
anyway), and it does look more correct to me. Our code is getting
to this native method in MacFontFinder.c
JNIEXPORT jfloat JNICALL
Java_com_sun_javafx_font_MacFontFinder_getSystemFontSize
(JNIEnv *env, jclass obj)
{
CTFontRef font = CTFontCreateUIFontForLanguage(
kCTFontSystemFontType,
0.0, //get system font with default size
NULL);
jfloat systemFontDefaultSize = (jfloat) CTFontGetSize (font);
CFRelease(font);
return systemFontDefaultSize;
}
However it appears the return value is 13 instead of 15 (and I
don't know what the actual default font family / weight is that
we're returning). It is possible the answer coming from this native
API call is wrong. Any ideas?
Richard
Re: iOS Default font is wrong
And then eventually some iOS style sheet needs to be created that will give the
right defaults for the other controls. I'm hoping to convince Hendrick and
Claudette to take on that task :-)
On Oct 30, 2013, at 6:38 AM, Stephen F Northover
steve.x.northo...@oracle.com wrote:
Let's use UIButton as this seems to match the stack overflow discussion.
Steve
On 2013-10-30 7:51 AM, Oldrich Maticka wrote:
I have tried simple app with several controls. Fonts in Interface Builder -
UIButton - System 15.0
UILabel - System 17.0
UITextField - System 14.0
UITextView - System 14.0
Same fontsize - 15.0 has UIButton's label created at runtime.
UIFont class methods for getting system font information return:
+ labelFontSize 17.0
+ buttonFontSize 18.0
+ smallSystemFontSize 12.0
+ systemFontSize 14.0
In fx Java_com_sun_javafx_font_MacFontFinder_getSystemFontSize returns 13.0
We can use different CTFontUIFontType in this method to return something
better than 13.0 -
e.g. with kCTFontPushButtonFontType as an argument to
CTFontCreateUIFontForLanguage() it returns 15.0, but we need to decide, what
we want to use as default. Should be our system default the size same as for
UIButton, UILabel or other control?
I was using iPad3 (iOS 7.0, Xcode 5.0).
Olda
On 10/29/13 7:32 PM, Stephen F Northover wrote:
I was going to create a dummy control (say a Button) and ask for the font.
Just an idea.
Steve
On 2013-10-29 2:18 PM, Felipe Heidrich wrote:
The code Richard sent is creating a dummy font and asking for its size.
The problem is that there are about 3 thousand different fonts on the Mac
;-)
Here we are creating a CTFont. For Mac OS X most native apps probably
would be using a NSFont (cause that is what cocoa controls take). Likewise
on iOS I think the common font is UIFont (cause I think that is what
UIKIt controls take).
Could anyone fire up Xcode, create a dummy iOS app, create a UIFont and
see what is the size ?
Felipe
On Oct 29, 2013, at 8:40 AM, Stephen F Northover
steve.x.northo...@oracle.com wrote:
If the OS is reporting the wrong value for the default a classic trick is
to create a dummy control that normally has the font we want and query
that.
Steve
On 2013-10-29 11:21 AM, Richard Bair wrote:
Hi guys,
The default font for iOS is supposed to be System Bold 15 (according to
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17325152/what-size-font-is-the-title-in-a-default-uibutton
anyway), and it does look more correct to me. Our code is getting to
this native method in MacFontFinder.c
JNIEXPORT jfloat JNICALL
Java_com_sun_javafx_font_MacFontFinder_getSystemFontSize
(JNIEnv *env, jclass obj)
{
CTFontRef font = CTFontCreateUIFontForLanguage(
kCTFontSystemFontType,
0.0, //get system font with default size
NULL);
jfloat systemFontDefaultSize = (jfloat) CTFontGetSize (font);
CFRelease(font);
return systemFontDefaultSize;
}
However it appears the return value is 13 instead of 15 (and I don't
know what the actual default font family / weight is that we're
returning). It is possible the answer coming from this native API call
is wrong. Any ideas?
Richard
Re: iOS Default font is wrong
Hi,
Correct me if I'm wrong, to use UIWhatever or NSWhatever we will need
Objective-C (or use the ugly objc_msgSend).
That is more work as we don't have Objective-C in native font code. Besides,
creating a Button requires, usually, a lot more boilerplate code. We will also
have to link to UIKit frameworks, etc.
Now, creating a CTFont using
CTFontCreateUIFontForLanguage(kCTFontPushButtonFontType) would be a very easy
change.
Oldrich, could you please prepare a table with the fontSize for all values on
CTFontUIFontType for MacOSX and iOS ?
Thanks
On Oct 30, 2013, at 6:38 AM, Stephen F Northover steve.x.northo...@oracle.com
wrote:
Let's use UIButton as this seems to match the stack overflow discussion.
Steve
On 2013-10-30 7:51 AM, Oldrich Maticka wrote:
I have tried simple app with several controls. Fonts in Interface Builder -
UIButton - System 15.0
UILabel - System 17.0
UITextField - System 14.0
UITextView - System 14.0
Same fontsize - 15.0 has UIButton's label created at runtime.
UIFont class methods for getting system font information return:
+ labelFontSize 17.0
+ buttonFontSize 18.0
+ smallSystemFontSize 12.0
+ systemFontSize 14.0
In fx Java_com_sun_javafx_font_MacFontFinder_getSystemFontSize returns 13.0
We can use different CTFontUIFontType in this method to return something
better than 13.0 -
e.g. with kCTFontPushButtonFontType as an argument to
CTFontCreateUIFontForLanguage() it returns 15.0, but we need to decide, what
we want to use as default. Should be our system default the size same as for
UIButton, UILabel or other control?
I was using iPad3 (iOS 7.0, Xcode 5.0).
Olda
On 10/29/13 7:32 PM, Stephen F Northover wrote:
I was going to create a dummy control (say a Button) and ask for the font.
Just an idea.
Steve
On 2013-10-29 2:18 PM, Felipe Heidrich wrote:
The code Richard sent is creating a dummy font and asking for its size.
The problem is that there are about 3 thousand different fonts on the Mac
;-)
Here we are creating a CTFont. For Mac OS X most native apps probably
would be using a NSFont (cause that is what cocoa controls take). Likewise
on iOS I think the common font is UIFont (cause I think that is what
UIKIt controls take).
Could anyone fire up Xcode, create a dummy iOS app, create a UIFont and
see what is the size ?
Felipe
On Oct 29, 2013, at 8:40 AM, Stephen F Northover
steve.x.northo...@oracle.com wrote:
If the OS is reporting the wrong value for the default a classic trick is
to create a dummy control that normally has the font we want and query
that.
Steve
On 2013-10-29 11:21 AM, Richard Bair wrote:
Hi guys,
The default font for iOS is supposed to be System Bold 15 (according to
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17325152/what-size-font-is-the-title-in-a-default-uibutton
anyway), and it does look more correct to me. Our code is getting to
this native method in MacFontFinder.c
JNIEXPORT jfloat JNICALL
Java_com_sun_javafx_font_MacFontFinder_getSystemFontSize
(JNIEnv *env, jclass obj)
{
CTFontRef font = CTFontCreateUIFontForLanguage(
kCTFontSystemFontType,
0.0, //get system font with default size
NULL);
jfloat systemFontDefaultSize = (jfloat) CTFontGetSize (font);
CFRelease(font);
return systemFontDefaultSize;
}
However it appears the return value is 13 instead of 15 (and I don't
know what the actual default font family / weight is that we're
returning). It is possible the answer coming from this native API call
is wrong. Any ideas?
Richard
Re: iOS Default font is wrong
Hi,
CTFontCreateUIFontForLanguage() returns fonts with same sizes for both
iOS and Mac OS X. See table below.
Unfortunately I made a mistake when I wrote 15.0 for
CTFontCreateUIFontForLanguage(kCTFontPushButtonFontType) font size,
unfortunately it is 13.0. Other sizes reported were correct (I have
verified it yet once).
iPad3 (iOS7.0) MacOSX 10.8
kCTFontUserFontType 12 12
kCTFontUserFixedPitchFontType 10 10
kCTFontSystemFontType 13 13
kCTFontEmphasizedSystemFontType 13 13
kCTFontSmallSystemFontType 11 11
kCTFontSmallEmphasizedSystemFontType11 11
kCTFontMiniSystemFontType 9 9
kCTFontMiniEmphasizedSystemFontType 9 9
kCTFontViewsFontType12 12
kCTFontApplicationFontType 13 13
kCTFontLabelFontType10 10
kCTFontMenuTitleFontType14 14
kCTFontMenuItemFontType 14 14
kCTFontMenuItemMarkFontType 14 14
kCTFontMenuItemCmdKeyFontType 14 14
kCTFontWindowTitleFontType 13 13
kCTFontPushButtonFontType 13 13
kCTFontUtilityWindowTitleFontType 11 11
kCTFontAlertHeaderFontType 13 13
kCTFontSystemDetailFontType 9 9
kCTFontEmphasizedSystemDetailFontType 9 9
kCTFontToolbarFontType 11 11
kCTFontSmallToolbarFontType 10 10
kCTFontMessageFontType 13 13
kCTFontPaletteFontType 11 11
kCTFontToolTipFontType 11 11
kCTFontControlContentFontType 12 12
Oldrich
On 10/30/13 4:38 PM, Felipe Heidrich wrote:
Hi,
Correct me if I'm wrong, to use UIWhatever or NSWhatever we will need
Objective-C (or use the ugly objc_msgSend).
That is more work as we don't have Objective-C in native font code. Besides,
creating a Button requires, usually, a lot more boilerplate code. We will also
have to link to UIKit frameworks, etc.
Now, creating a CTFont using
CTFontCreateUIFontForLanguage(kCTFontPushButtonFontType) would be a very easy
change.
Oldrich, could you please prepare a table with the fontSize for all values on
CTFontUIFontType for MacOSX and iOS ?
Thanks
On Oct 30, 2013, at 6:38 AM, Stephen F Northover steve.x.northo...@oracle.com wrote:
Let's use UIButton as this seems to match the stack overflow discussion.
Steve
On 2013-10-30 7:51 AM, Oldrich Maticka wrote:
I have tried simple app with several controls. Fonts in Interface Builder -
UIButton - System 15.0
UILabel - System 17.0
UITextField - System 14.0
UITextView - System 14.0
Same fontsize - 15.0 has UIButton's label created at runtime.
UIFont class methods for getting system font information return:
+ labelFontSize 17.0
+ buttonFontSize 18.0
+ smallSystemFontSize 12.0
+ systemFontSize 14.0
In fx Java_com_sun_javafx_font_MacFontFinder_getSystemFontSize returns 13.0
We can use different CTFontUIFontType in this method to return something
better than 13.0 -
e.g. with kCTFontPushButtonFontType as an argument to
CTFontCreateUIFontForLanguage() it returns 15.0, but we need to decide, what we
want to use as default. Should be our system default the size same as for
UIButton, UILabel or other control?
I was using iPad3 (iOS 7.0, Xcode 5.0).
Olda
On 10/29/13 7:32 PM, Stephen F Northover wrote:
I was going to create a dummy control (say a Button) and ask for the font.
Just an idea.
Steve
On 2013-10-29 2:18 PM, Felipe Heidrich wrote:
The code Richard sent is creating a dummy font and asking for its size.
The problem is that there are about 3 thousand different fonts on the Mac ;-)
Here we are creating a CTFont. For Mac OS X most native apps probably would be using a
NSFont (cause that is what cocoa controls take). Likewise on iOS I think the
common font is UIFont (cause I think that is what UIKIt controls take).
Could anyone fire up Xcode, create a dummy iOS app, create a UIFont and see
what is the size ?
Felipe
On Oct 29, 2013, at 8:40 AM, Stephen F Northover steve.x.northo...@oracle.com
wrote:
If the OS is reporting the wrong value for the default a classic trick is to
create a dummy control that normally has the font we want and query that.
Steve
On 2013-10-29 11:21 AM, Richard Bair wrote:
Hi guys,
The default font for iOS is supposed to be System Bold 15 (according to
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17325152/what-size-font-is-the-title-in-a-default-uibutton
anyway), and it does look more correct to me. Our code is getting to this
native method in MacFontFinder.c
JNIEXPORT jfloat JNICALL
Java_com_sun_javafx_font_MacFontFinder_getSystemFontSize
(JNIEnv *env, jclass obj)
{
CTFontRef font = CTFontCreateUIFontForLanguage(
kCTFontSystemFontType,
0.0, //get system font with default size
NULL);
jfloat systemFontDefaultSize = (jfloat) CTFontGetSize (font);
CFRelease(font);
return systemFontDefaultSize;
}
However it appears the return value is 13
Re: iOS Default font is wrong
Could we call UIFont using Objective-C Runtime Something like: id class_UIFont = objc_getClass(UIFont); SEL sel_labelFontSize = sel_registerName(labelFontSize); float size = objc_msgSend_fpret(class_UIFont, sel_labelFontSize); ? Anyway, we are back to the original question: What font to use. Reading Richard's original request we are still not getting the recommend font which is bold. I start to think the answer to get this right in the CSS… Felipe On Oct 30, 2013, at 10:14 AM, Oldrich Maticka oldrich.mati...@oracle.com wrote: Hi, CTFontCreateUIFontForLanguage() returns fonts with same sizes for both iOS and Mac OS X. See table below. Unfortunately I made a mistake when I wrote 15.0 for CTFontCreateUIFontForLanguage(kCTFontPushButtonFontType) font size, unfortunately it is 13.0. Other sizes reported were correct (I have verified it yet once). iPad3 (iOS7.0)MacOSX 10.8 kCTFontUserFontType 12 12 kCTFontUserFixedPitchFontType 10 10 kCTFontSystemFontType 13 13 kCTFontEmphasizedSystemFontType 13 13 kCTFontSmallSystemFontType11 11 kCTFontSmallEmphasizedSystemFontType 11 11 kCTFontMiniSystemFontType 9 9 kCTFontMiniEmphasizedSystemFontType 9 9 kCTFontViewsFontType 12 12 kCTFontApplicationFontType13 13 kCTFontLabelFontType 10 10 kCTFontMenuTitleFontType 14 14 kCTFontMenuItemFontType 14 14 kCTFontMenuItemMarkFontType 14 14 kCTFontMenuItemCmdKeyFontType 14 14 kCTFontWindowTitleFontType13 13 kCTFontPushButtonFontType 13 13 kCTFontUtilityWindowTitleFontType 11 11 kCTFontAlertHeaderFontType13 13 kCTFontSystemDetailFontType 9 9 kCTFontEmphasizedSystemDetailFontType 9 9 kCTFontToolbarFontType11 11 kCTFontSmallToolbarFontType 10 10 kCTFontMessageFontType13 13 kCTFontPaletteFontType11 11 kCTFontToolTipFontType11 11 kCTFontControlContentFontType 12 12 Oldrich On 10/30/13 4:38 PM, Felipe Heidrich wrote: Hi, Correct me if I'm wrong, to use UIWhatever or NSWhatever we will need Objective-C (or use the ugly objc_msgSend). That is more work as we don't have Objective-C in native font code. Besides, creating a Button requires, usually, a lot more boilerplate code. We will also have to link to UIKit frameworks, etc. Now, creating a CTFont using CTFontCreateUIFontForLanguage(kCTFontPushButtonFontType) would be a very easy change. Oldrich, could you please prepare a table with the fontSize for all values on CTFontUIFontType for MacOSX and iOS ? Thanks On Oct 30, 2013, at 6:38 AM, Stephen F Northover steve.x.northo...@oracle.com wrote: Let's use UIButton as this seems to match the stack overflow discussion. Steve On 2013-10-30 7:51 AM, Oldrich Maticka wrote: I have tried simple app with several controls. Fonts in Interface Builder - UIButton - System 15.0 UILabel - System 17.0 UITextField - System 14.0 UITextView - System 14.0 Same fontsize - 15.0 has UIButton's label created at runtime. UIFont class methods for getting system font information return: + labelFontSize 17.0 + buttonFontSize 18.0 + smallSystemFontSize 12.0 + systemFontSize 14.0 In fx Java_com_sun_javafx_font_MacFontFinder_getSystemFontSize returns 13.0 We can use different CTFontUIFontType in this method to return something better than 13.0 - e.g. with kCTFontPushButtonFontType as an argument to CTFontCreateUIFontForLanguage() it returns 15.0, but we need to decide, what we want to use as default. Should be our system default the size same as for UIButton, UILabel or other control? I was using iPad3 (iOS 7.0, Xcode 5.0). Olda On 10/29/13 7:32 PM, Stephen F Northover wrote: I was going to create a dummy control (say a Button) and ask for the font. Just an idea. Steve On 2013-10-29 2:18 PM, Felipe Heidrich wrote: The code Richard sent is creating a dummy font and asking for its size. The problem is that there are about 3 thousand different fonts on the Mac ;-) Here we are creating a CTFont. For Mac OS X most native apps probably would be using a NSFont (cause that is what cocoa controls take). Likewise on iOS I think the common font is UIFont (cause I think that is what UIKIt controls take). Could anyone fire up Xcode, create a dummy iOS app, create a UIFont and see what is the size ? Felipe On Oct 29, 2013, at 8:40 AM, Stephen F Northover steve.x.northo...@oracle.com wrote: If the OS is reporting the wrong value for the default a classic trick is to create a dummy control that normally has the font we want and query that. Steve On 2013-10-29 11:21 AM, Richard Bair wrote: Hi guys, The default font for iOS is supposed to be System Bold 15 (according to
Re: iOS Default font is wrong
At least on iOS 7.0 - recommended (default) font for UIButton is not bold. It is System 15.0 (family: Helvetica Neue, style: Regular, size: 15.0) in Interface Builder. Oldrich On 10/30/13 8:41 PM, Felipe Heidrich wrote: Could we call UIFont using Objective-C Runtime Something like: id class_UIFont = objc_getClass(UIFont); SEL sel_labelFontSize = sel_registerName(labelFontSize); float size = objc_msgSend_fpret(class_UIFont, sel_labelFontSize); ? Anyway, we are back to the original question: What font to use. Reading Richard's original request we are still not getting the recommend font which is bold. I start to think the answer to get this right in the CSS… Felipe On Oct 30, 2013, at 10:14 AM, Oldrich Maticka oldrich.mati...@oracle.com wrote: Hi, CTFontCreateUIFontForLanguage() returns fonts with same sizes for both iOS and Mac OS X. See table below. Unfortunately I made a mistake when I wrote 15.0 for CTFontCreateUIFontForLanguage(kCTFontPushButtonFontType) font size, unfortunately it is 13.0. Other sizes reported were correct (I have verified it yet once). iPad3 (iOS7.0) MacOSX 10.8 kCTFontUserFontType 12 12 kCTFontUserFixedPitchFontType 10 10 kCTFontSystemFontType 13 13 kCTFontEmphasizedSystemFontType 13 13 kCTFontSmallSystemFontType 11 11 kCTFontSmallEmphasizedSystemFontType11 11 kCTFontMiniSystemFontType 9 9 kCTFontMiniEmphasizedSystemFontType 9 9 kCTFontViewsFontType12 12 kCTFontApplicationFontType 13 13 kCTFontLabelFontType10 10 kCTFontMenuTitleFontType14 14 kCTFontMenuItemFontType 14 14 kCTFontMenuItemMarkFontType 14 14 kCTFontMenuItemCmdKeyFontType 14 14 kCTFontWindowTitleFontType 13 13 kCTFontPushButtonFontType 13 13 kCTFontUtilityWindowTitleFontType 11 11 kCTFontAlertHeaderFontType 13 13 kCTFontSystemDetailFontType 9 9 kCTFontEmphasizedSystemDetailFontType 9 9 kCTFontToolbarFontType 11 11 kCTFontSmallToolbarFontType 10 10 kCTFontMessageFontType 13 13 kCTFontPaletteFontType 11 11 kCTFontToolTipFontType 11 11 kCTFontControlContentFontType 12 12 Oldrich On 10/30/13 4:38 PM, Felipe Heidrich wrote: Hi, Correct me if I'm wrong, to use UIWhatever or NSWhatever we will need Objective-C (or use the ugly objc_msgSend). That is more work as we don't have Objective-C in native font code. Besides, creating a Button requires, usually, a lot more boilerplate code. We will also have to link to UIKit frameworks, etc. Now, creating a CTFont using CTFontCreateUIFontForLanguage(kCTFontPushButtonFontType) would be a very easy change. Oldrich, could you please prepare a table with the fontSize for all values on CTFontUIFontType for MacOSX and iOS ? Thanks On Oct 30, 2013, at 6:38 AM, Stephen F Northover steve.x.northo...@oracle.com wrote: Let's use UIButton as this seems to match the stack overflow discussion. Steve On 2013-10-30 7:51 AM, Oldrich Maticka wrote: I have tried simple app with several controls. Fonts in Interface Builder - UIButton - System 15.0 UILabel - System 17.0 UITextField - System 14.0 UITextView - System 14.0 Same fontsize - 15.0 has UIButton's label created at runtime. UIFont class methods for getting system font information return: + labelFontSize 17.0 + buttonFontSize 18.0 + smallSystemFontSize 12.0 + systemFontSize 14.0 In fx Java_com_sun_javafx_font_MacFontFinder_getSystemFontSize returns 13.0 We can use different CTFontUIFontType in this method to return something better than 13.0 - e.g. with kCTFontPushButtonFontType as an argument to CTFontCreateUIFontForLanguage() it returns 15.0, but we need to decide, what we want to use as default. Should be our system default the size same as for UIButton, UILabel or other control? I was using iPad3 (iOS 7.0, Xcode 5.0). Olda On 10/29/13 7:32 PM, Stephen F Northover wrote: I was going to create a dummy control (say a Button) and ask for the font. Just an idea. Steve On 2013-10-29 2:18 PM, Felipe Heidrich wrote: The code Richard sent is creating a dummy font and asking for its size. The problem is that there are about 3 thousand different fonts on the Mac ;-) Here we are creating a CTFont. For Mac OS X most native apps probably would be using a NSFont (cause that is what cocoa controls take). Likewise on iOS I think the common font is UIFont (cause I think that is what UIKIt controls take). Could anyone fire up Xcode, create a dummy iOS app, create a UIFont and see what is the size ? Felipe On Oct 29, 2013, at 8:40 AM, Stephen F Northover steve.x.northo...@oracle.com wrote: If the OS is reporting the wrong value for the default a classic trick is to create a dummy control that normally has the font we want and query that. Steve On 2013-10-29 11:21 AM, Richard Bair wrote: Hi guys, The default font for iOS is
Re: iOS Default font is wrong
Eh? Just create a bogus native control, query the font and throw the control away. No text node necessary. Stege On 2013-10-30 4:27 PM, Richard Bair wrote: The only problem is that the CSS requires a UI control, so just putting a Text node up gets the wrong size. Also the API we have to say get the default font will be wrong. We could just hard-code in a hack for iOS maybe? Richard On Oct 30, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Felipe Heidrich felipe.heidr...@oracle.com wrote: Could we call UIFont using Objective-C Runtime Something like: id class_UIFont = objc_getClass(UIFont); SEL sel_labelFontSize = sel_registerName(labelFontSize); float size = objc_msgSend_fpret(class_UIFont, sel_labelFontSize); ? Anyway, we are back to the original question: What font to use. Reading Richard's original request we are still not getting the recommend font which is bold. I start to think the answer to get this right in the CSS… Felipe On Oct 30, 2013, at 10:14 AM, Oldrich Maticka oldrich.mati...@oracle.com wrote: Hi, CTFontCreateUIFontForLanguage() returns fonts with same sizes for both iOS and Mac OS X. See table below. Unfortunately I made a mistake when I wrote 15.0 for CTFontCreateUIFontForLanguage(kCTFontPushButtonFontType) font size, unfortunately it is 13.0. Other sizes reported were correct (I have verified it yet once). iPad3 (iOS7.0) MacOSX 10.8 kCTFontUserFontType 12 12 kCTFontUserFixedPitchFontType 10 10 kCTFontSystemFontType 13 13 kCTFontEmphasizedSystemFontType 13 13 kCTFontSmallSystemFontType 11 11 kCTFontSmallEmphasizedSystemFontType11 11 kCTFontMiniSystemFontType 9 9 kCTFontMiniEmphasizedSystemFontType 9 9 kCTFontViewsFontType12 12 kCTFontApplicationFontType 13 13 kCTFontLabelFontType10 10 kCTFontMenuTitleFontType14 14 kCTFontMenuItemFontType 14 14 kCTFontMenuItemMarkFontType 14 14 kCTFontMenuItemCmdKeyFontType 14 14 kCTFontWindowTitleFontType 13 13 kCTFontPushButtonFontType 13 13 kCTFontUtilityWindowTitleFontType 11 11 kCTFontAlertHeaderFontType 13 13 kCTFontSystemDetailFontType 9 9 kCTFontEmphasizedSystemDetailFontType 9 9 kCTFontToolbarFontType 11 11 kCTFontSmallToolbarFontType 10 10 kCTFontMessageFontType 13 13 kCTFontPaletteFontType 11 11 kCTFontToolTipFontType 11 11 kCTFontControlContentFontType 12 12 Oldrich On 10/30/13 4:38 PM, Felipe Heidrich wrote: Hi, Correct me if I'm wrong, to use UIWhatever or NSWhatever we will need Objective-C (or use the ugly objc_msgSend). That is more work as we don't have Objective-C in native font code. Besides, creating a Button requires, usually, a lot more boilerplate code. We will also have to link to UIKit frameworks, etc. Now, creating a CTFont using CTFontCreateUIFontForLanguage(kCTFontPushButtonFontType) would be a very easy change. Oldrich, could you please prepare a table with the fontSize for all values on CTFontUIFontType for MacOSX and iOS ? Thanks On Oct 30, 2013, at 6:38 AM, Stephen F Northover steve.x.northo...@oracle.com wrote: Let's use UIButton as this seems to match the stack overflow discussion. Steve On 2013-10-30 7:51 AM, Oldrich Maticka wrote: I have tried simple app with several controls. Fonts in Interface Builder - UIButton - System 15.0 UILabel - System 17.0 UITextField - System 14.0 UITextView - System 14.0 Same fontsize - 15.0 has UIButton's label created at runtime. UIFont class methods for getting system font information return: + labelFontSize 17.0 + buttonFontSize 18.0 + smallSystemFontSize 12.0 + systemFontSize 14.0 In fx Java_com_sun_javafx_font_MacFontFinder_getSystemFontSize returns 13.0 We can use different CTFontUIFontType in this method to return something better than 13.0 - e.g. with kCTFontPushButtonFontType as an argument to CTFontCreateUIFontForLanguage() it returns 15.0, but we need to decide, what we want to use as default. Should be our system default the size same as for UIButton, UILabel or other control? I was using iPad3 (iOS 7.0, Xcode 5.0). Olda On 10/29/13 7:32 PM, Stephen F Northover wrote: I was going to create a dummy control (say a Button) and ask for the font. Just an idea. Steve On 2013-10-29 2:18 PM, Felipe Heidrich wrote: The code Richard sent is creating a dummy font and asking for its size. The problem is that there are about 3 thousand different fonts on the Mac ;-) Here we are creating a CTFont. For Mac OS X most native apps probably would be using a NSFont (cause that is what cocoa controls take). Likewise on iOS I think the common font is UIFont (cause I think that is what UIKIt controls take). Could anyone fire up Xcode, create a dummy iOS app, create a UIFont and see what is the size ? Felipe On Oct 29, 2013, at 8:40 AM, Stephen F Northover steve.x.northo...@oracle.com
Re: iOS Default font is wrong
If the OS is reporting the wrong value for the default a classic trick
is to create a dummy control that normally has the font we want and
query that.
Steve
On 2013-10-29 11:21 AM, Richard Bair wrote:
Hi guys,
The default font for iOS is supposed to be System Bold 15 (according to
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17325152/what-size-font-is-the-title-in-a-default-uibutton
anyway), and it does look more correct to me. Our code is getting to this
native method in MacFontFinder.c
JNIEXPORT jfloat JNICALL
Java_com_sun_javafx_font_MacFontFinder_getSystemFontSize
(JNIEnv *env, jclass obj)
{
CTFontRef font = CTFontCreateUIFontForLanguage(
kCTFontSystemFontType,
0.0, //get system font with default size
NULL);
jfloat systemFontDefaultSize = (jfloat) CTFontGetSize (font);
CFRelease(font);
return systemFontDefaultSize;
}
However it appears the return value is 13 instead of 15 (and I don't know what the actual
default font family / weight is that we're returning). It is possible the answer coming
from this native API call is wrong. Any ideas?
Richard
Re: iOS Default font is wrong
The code Richard sent is creating a dummy font and asking for its size.
The problem is that there are about 3 thousand different fonts on the Mac ;-)
Here we are creating a CTFont. For Mac OS X most native apps probably would be
using a NSFont (cause that is what cocoa controls take). Likewise on iOS I
think the common font is UIFont (cause I think that is what UIKIt controls
take).
Could anyone fire up Xcode, create a dummy iOS app, create a UIFont and see
what is the size ?
Felipe
On Oct 29, 2013, at 8:40 AM, Stephen F Northover steve.x.northo...@oracle.com
wrote:
If the OS is reporting the wrong value for the default a classic trick is to
create a dummy control that normally has the font we want and query that.
Steve
On 2013-10-29 11:21 AM, Richard Bair wrote:
Hi guys,
The default font for iOS is supposed to be System Bold 15 (according to
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17325152/what-size-font-is-the-title-in-a-default-uibutton
anyway), and it does look more correct to me. Our code is getting to this
native method in MacFontFinder.c
JNIEXPORT jfloat JNICALL
Java_com_sun_javafx_font_MacFontFinder_getSystemFontSize
(JNIEnv *env, jclass obj)
{
CTFontRef font = CTFontCreateUIFontForLanguage(
kCTFontSystemFontType,
0.0, //get system font with default size
NULL);
jfloat systemFontDefaultSize = (jfloat) CTFontGetSize (font);
CFRelease(font);
return systemFontDefaultSize;
}
However it appears the return value is 13 instead of 15 (and I don't know
what the actual default font family / weight is that we're returning). It is
possible the answer coming from this native API call is wrong. Any ideas?
Richard
