Status or JDK/JFX8 builds for arm Linux

2013-06-10 Thread Robert Krüger
Hi, I would like to check out how well JFX8 works on the Raspberry Pi and I only found the build from December. Is there a place were one can find more up-to-date builds or do I have to build it myself? Thanks, Robert

Re: Status or JDK/JFX8 builds for arm Linux

2013-06-11 Thread Robert Krüger
snapshot is still the latest. It won't be long before an update. Daniel Richard On Jun 8, 2013, at 9:22 AM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote: Hi, I would like to check out how well JFX8 works on the Raspberry Pi and I only found the build from December. Is there a place were one can

Experience with piecewise migration Swing - JFX

2013-06-14 Thread Robert Krüger
Hi, we're currently in the process of migrating our Swing application from Apple JDK 6 to OpenJDK 8 hoping to be able to ship it bundled with OpenJDK 8 in the coming months. In addition to that we're seriously considering a Migration of the UI to JFX and it appears very tempting to do this

Re: Experience with piecewise migration Swing - JFX

2013-06-16 Thread Robert Krüger
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Pedro Duque Vieira pedro.duquevie...@gmail.com wrote: My biggest problems were with having 2 UI threads. I ran into some concurrency issues between the 2. Meaning things that just needed extra care or things that were hard to work around? Could you elaborate a

Re: JDK 8 for ARM Early Access Releases (with JavaFX)

2013-07-10 Thread Robert Krüger
Probably something wrong with your email software or something eats the content on the way. You keep sending mails with empty bodies. On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Daniel Blaukopf daniel.blauk...@oracle.com wrote:

Re: JDK 8 for ARM Early Access Releases (with JavaFX)

2013-07-10 Thread Robert Krüger
If anyone plays around with this on the Raspberry, please share your experience here. On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:09 PM, steve.x.northo...@oracle.com wrote: JDK 8 for ARM hard float is now part of the regular JDK 8 Early Access releases. You can get it athttps://jdk8.java.net/download.html; this

Re: JDK 8 for ARM Early Access Releases (with JavaFX)

2013-07-10 Thread Robert Krüger
the same jar of your application and let it run on the Pi without any modification. Cheers, Gerrit Am 10.07.2013 um 16:14 schrieb Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de: If anyone plays around with this on the Raspberry, please share your experience here. On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:09 PM

Re: Media is now opensource

2013-10-18 Thread Robert Krüger
Great news! Does this mean that it is now possible to add support for more demuxers/decoders e.g. by utilizing stuff from other projects (ffmpeg comes to mind)? On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Kirill Kirichenko kirill.kiriche...@oracle.com wrote: Hello OpenJFXers ! We're happy to announce

Re: Media is now opensource

2013-10-18 Thread Robert Krüger
involve using and even violating some license agreements. Anyway you're welcome to propose anything. On 18.10.2013 21:37, Robert Krüger wrote: Great news! Does this mean that it is now possible to add support for more demuxers/decoders e.g. by utilizing stuff from other projects (ffmpeg

Re: To Be Or Not To Be (Native), was:Look and feel mechanism?

2013-12-11 Thread Robert Krüger
Amen and +1. On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Stephen F Northover steve.x.northo...@oracle.com wrote: As I said before, it would be up to the application. If it was critical that your application do something like embed Excel, then it could live with the limitations. Perhaps you work in a

Re: Expected frame rates for a full-screen blur

2014-04-07 Thread Robert Krüger
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Mike Hearn m...@plan99.net wrote: How do I do that? And won't that make everything blurry? Retina support is one reason why I chose JFX. Swing on Retina Macs is pretty much unusable, it's like looking through thick plastic. Not exactly the main point of this

Integrating JFX Dialog/Stage in Swing application

2014-05-31 Thread Robert Krüger
Hi, I am trying something which I thought would technically be the easiest way of migrating parts of an existing application from Swing to JFX, i.e. have a Swing JMenuItem trigger the showing of a JFX stage because I thought this would technically even be cleaner than to have a swing dialog

Re: Integrating JFX Dialog/Stage in Swing application

2014-05-31 Thread Robert Krüger
problems (for me). jeff martin On May 31, 2014, at 7:27 AM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote: Hi, I am trying something which I thought would technically be the easiest way of migrating parts of an existing application from Swing to JFX, i.e. have a Swing JMenuItem trigger the showing

Re: Integrating JFX Dialog/Stage in Swing application

2014-05-31 Thread Robert Krüger
the invocation on new JFXPanel() that I have in the EDT before the stage is built. On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote: Hi Jeff, thanks, yeah, that's a workaround I have also found. I am just asking myself (and the JFX developers on this list) why this kind

Ugly flashing when opening a css-styled stage

2014-06-01 Thread Robert Krüger
Hi, I'm in the process of evaluating Java FX 8 for our currently Swing-based product (also Java 8) on OSX. My first attempt to style a stage's background resulted in an ugly flashing effect which I would classify as a show-stopper for delivering a commercial product. This looks like it is caused

Re: Ugly flashing when opening a css-styled stage

2014-06-02 Thread Robert Krüger
drawing _stage.setOpacity(0); _stage.show(); _stage.hide(); _stage.setOpacity(1); I've done this before to trigger Stage to set it's width/height property (which I needed to position the stage property). jeff On Jun 1, 2014, at 3:18 AM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote

Re: Ugly flashing when opening a css-styled stage

2014-06-02 Thread Robert Krüger
, Insets.EMPTY))); Does that improve the situation? Tom On 02.06.14 09:51, Robert Krüger wrote: Thanks but it does not seem to improve the situation. btw, I am using 1.8.0_05-b13 on Mac OS 10.9.3 on a retina MBP. On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 9:59 PM, Jeff Martin j...@reportmill.com wrote: I haven't seen

Re: Ugly flashing when opening a css-styled stage

2014-06-02 Thread Robert Krüger
Hi Anthony On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Anthony Petrov anthony.pet...@oracle.com wrote: Hi Robert, Which of the two mailing lists is the more appropriate one to post these things (JFX problems which look like they might be platform-specific) to? FYI: the JDK Mac OS X Port Project has

Adding application-wide stylesheet

2014-06-12 Thread Robert Krüger
Hi, RT-18543 has been closed as not an issue with the following explanation: API exists in Application for this: http://download.java.net/jdk8/jfxdocs/javafx/application/Application.html#setUserAgentStylesheet-java.lang.String- But that does not the same thing as it replaces the default

Re: Adding application-wide stylesheet

2014-06-12 Thread Robert Krüger
#setUserAgentStylesheet(String), should do the trick. If I'm missing something, then please feel free to create a new feature request in JIRA. On 6/12/14, 4:57 PM, Robert Krüger wrote: Hi, RT-18543 has been closed as not an issue with the following explanation: API exists in Application for this: http

Exposing native surface or opengl handle

2014-06-13 Thread Robert Krüger
Hi, it has been discussed a number of time in the passed but let me quickly summarize: A number of people have requested a feature that provides the ability to have native code draw into a surface provided by a JavaFX application as fast as technically possible, i.e. with no indirection or

Re: Exposing native surface or opengl handle

2014-06-23 Thread Robert Krüger
at 10:41 PM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote: Thanks for the hint. I think this is similar to what a colleague of mine did a while ago as a proof of concept using other com.sun.api that then went away. As long as we're bundling the JRE with our product and we're desperate enough to get

Re: Exposing native surface or opengl handle

2014-06-23 Thread Robert Krüger
on the issue. Steve On 2014-06-23, 10:03 AM, Robert Krüger wrote: Sorry, my last reply did not go to the list. That was unintended. Oracle-Team, please someone comment on this, at least on what should be done regarding a Jira Issue (or several ones?) to track any progress on this and collect

Re: Exposing native surface or opengl handle

2014-06-26 Thread Robert Krüger
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:40 AM, John Hendrikx hj...@xs4all.nl wrote: On 13/06/2014 08:57, Robert Krüger wrote: Hi, it has been discussed a number of time in the passed but let me quickly summarize: A number of people have requested a feature that provides the ability to have native code

API enhancement request to make stage respect scene's min size

2014-06-26 Thread Robert Krüger
Hi, right now, I am doing this to prevent stage windows to be resizable in a way that cuts off their contained scene's content: final Scene scene = new Scene(pane); stage.setScene(scene); stage.setTitle(getClass().getSimpleName()); stage.sizeToScene(); //

Re: API enhancement request to make stage respect scene's min size

2014-06-26 Thread Robert Krüger
for 8u40 actually... -Martin On 06/26/2014 01:10 PM, Robert Krüger wrote: Hi, right now, I am doing this to prevent stage windows to be resizable in a way that cuts off their contained scene's content: final Scene scene = new Scene(pane); stage.setScene(scene

OT: Netbeans ported to JFX?

2014-07-09 Thread Robert Krüger
Hi, it is a little off-topic but the people reading this list are most likely the ones who could answer this. Is a port of Netbeans to JFX planned or even ongoing? It would certainly be a huge project but I am asking myself, if there is a way around that with Swing being de-facto legacy if

Re: OT: Netbeans ported to JFX?

2014-07-10 Thread Robert Krüger
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Jeff Martin j...@reportmill.com wrote: My thought is that JavaFX is perfect for an IDE targeted to education, like Greenfoot and BlueJ: SnapCode: SnapCode is the first and only pure JavaFX IDE YouTube Overview: SnapCode JavaFX Overview

Re: OT: Netbeans ported to JFX?

2014-07-11 Thread Robert Krüger
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 4:53 PM, David Hill david.h...@oracle.com wrote: On 7/10/14, 10:40 AM, Jeff Martin wrote: That's not what Bill Gates or Steve Jobs said. To be fair - both of those guys are trying to build an ecosystem - not just an OS, but an OS and tools and products layered on top

Fwd: JavaFx roadmap?

2014-08-14 Thread Robert Krüger
Classic, forgot to post to list. -- Forwarded message -- From: Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de Date: Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:29 AM Subject: Re: JavaFx roadmap? To: Adam Granger a...@adamish.com On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Adam Granger a...@adamish.com wrote

Tagging UI control

2014-09-08 Thread Robert Krüger
Hi, how would one go about implementing (i.e. use which api) a tagging control (e.g. like http://xoxco.com/projects/code/tagsinput/) in JFX or is this already available in an existing extension library? Is this easily done with a bit of text parsing and CSS magic or as fiddely as building a rich

Re: TableView API, no lazy retrieval of visible cell content possible?

2015-01-27 Thread Robert Krüger
-null for the first 23 items. Am Dienstag, 27. Januar 2015 schrieb Tomas Mikula : Hi Robert, instead of listening to visibleProperty(), listen to sceneProperty() and cancel loading when scene becomes null. Tomas On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de javascript

Re: TableView API, no lazy retrieval of visible cell content possible?

2015-01-28 Thread Robert Krüger
Krüger wrote: Doesn't help. The patterns of this property being changed are just as unusable for my purposes as with the other approaches (e.g. I can clearly see that item is set to a different value for a cell that is still visible, ... -- Robert Krüger Managing Partner Lesspain GmbH Co. KG

Re: TableView API, no lazy retrieval of visible cell content possible?

2015-01-28 Thread Robert Krüger
about the inefficiency that more cells than needed are created and hold non-null items. Let's see if others have something to suggest. Tomas On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote: Hi Tomas, When I do that, the property is never set to null. If I use

Fwd: TableView API, no lazy retrieval of visible cell content possible?

2015-01-28 Thread Robert Krüger
forgot again to reply to all. If anyone ever considers changing the default settings of the list server, +1 from me. -- Forwarded message -- From: Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de Date: Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:47 PM Subject: Re: TableView API, no lazy retrieval of visible cell

Re: TableView API, no lazy retrieval of visible cell content possible?

2015-01-28 Thread Robert Krüger
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote: OK, I investigated some more. What is weird is that the same table cell instance (I checked the Object hashcode) is set to different model values while it is still visible, i.e. I get sequences like this in the log

Re: TableView API, no lazy retrieval of visible cell content possible?

2015-01-28 Thread Robert Krüger
OK, hang on. I may have found a mistake and what I described may not actually have been happening. On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote: Hi, On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Werner Lehmann lehm...@media-interactive.de wrote: Robert, I think Tomas

Re: TableView API, no lazy retrieval of visible cell content possible?

2015-01-29 Thread Robert Krüger
I have filed https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-39917 for this in Jira. On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote: OK, I investigated some more. What is weird is that the same

Re: Scroll events fired in TableView although there is nothing to scroll

2015-01-25 Thread Robert Krüger
yes, that's what appear's to be happening. On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Scott Palmer swpal...@gmail.com wrote: You are probably only seeing the event when the TableView's internal ScrollPane doesn't consume it. Scott On Jan 24, 2015, at 11:50 AM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de

Scroll events fired in TableView although there is nothing to scroll

2015-01-24 Thread Robert Krüger
Hi, I am a bit surprised by the behaviour of the onScroll event handling of TableView. I just printed the events I received there to standard out and although the table does not display any scrollbars because it is large enough to fit all content into it, I receive events as if it were scrolling

Re: TableView API, no lazy retrieval of visible cell content possible?

2015-01-28 Thread Robert Krüger
of cells is about as many as you need for one visible page in the tableview plus 2-4 more to facilitate scrolling. On 28.01.2015 15:47, Robert Krüger wrote: To clarify: I am using the stack approach you describe and I remove it from the stack when updateItem for a table cell is called

Re: TableView API, no lazy retrieval of visible cell content possible?

2015-01-28 Thread Robert Krüger
removed from the load queue because the cell's content is overwritten while it is still being displayed. On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote: Yes, and I think there was a mistake in my code. I have it almost working and have to analyse now, why it does

Re: Media player maturity (on Mac)

2015-03-09 Thread Robert Krüger
://www.oracle.com/commitment On Mar 9, 2015, at 9:31 AM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote: Hi, anyone doing serious work with the media player on the Mac? I am experimenting and so far I am not getting the impression, this is really something very solid. The first Audio-Sample I tried playing plays

Re: Media player maturity (on Mac)

2015-03-11 Thread Robert Krüger
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 5:28 PM, David DeHaven david.deha...@oracle.com wrote: No, thanks for the hint. I just did and the behavior is a bit better in the sense that the sample start is not cut off on subsequent play invocations (behaves more or less line instantiating a new mediaplayer for

Re: Media player maturity (on Mac)

2015-03-11 Thread Robert Krüger
but not for anything else. Don't know if that has changed or if this is even the Audio strategy for JFX. Would be great if someone could share experience/opinions in this area. Have you tried AudioClip instead of MediaPlayer? -DrD- -- Robert Krüger Managing Partner Lesspain GmbH Co. KG

Re: Media player maturity (on Mac)

2015-03-13 Thread Robert Krüger
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 8:48 PM, David DeHaven david.deha...@oracle.com wrote: One more question regarding this. Is it OK to have many instances of AudioClip or MediaPlayer if only a few of them actually play stuff or do they block audio resources even when they are stopped? You can

Re: Media player maturity (on Mac)

2015-03-12 Thread Robert Krüger
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 5:28 PM, David DeHaven david.deha...@oracle.com wrote: No, thanks for the hint. I just did and the behavior is a bit better in the sense that the sample start is not cut off on subsequent play invocations (behaves more or less line instantiating a new mediaplayer for

MediaPlayer status changes

2015-03-12 Thread Robert Krüger
Hi, I don't see anything in the docs stating how status should change in MediaPlayer, e.g. will reaching end of media trigger a transition from PLAYING to STOPPED? Will a subsequent call to play() start at the beginning of the media file or do I need to seek? I was expecting some kind of status

Re: Media player maturity (on Mac)

2015-03-12 Thread Robert Krüger
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 6:02 PM, David DeHaven david.deha...@oracle.com wrote: One more question regarding this. Is it OK to have many instances of AudioClip or MediaPlayer if only a few of them actually play stuff or do they block audio resources even when they are stopped? You can have

Re: Packaging a JFX app in a gradle build system

2015-03-27 Thread Robert Krüger
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 12:16 AM, Scott Palmer swpal...@gmail.com wrote: I am successfully using the javafx gradle plugin to produce a packaged app on Windows and Linux. (Thanks Danno!) I haven't tried much with Mac yet, but I believe it will make an application bundle. That sounds great. I

Packaging a JFX app in a gradle build system

2015-03-26 Thread Robert Krüger
Hi, sorry for posting this here but I have tried Stackoverflow and the Oracle JFX user forum first with no responses. I am looking for the most sensible way to integrate packaging of a JavaFX application into my Gradle build. The plugin at https://bitbucket.org/shemnon/javafx-gradle does not

Re: Canvas performance on Mac OS

2015-03-28 Thread Robert Krüger
I have filed this now: https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-40377 On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote: This is consistent with what I am observing. Is this something that Oracle is aware of? Looking at Jira, I don't see that anyone is working

Re: Packaging a JFX app in a gradle build system

2015-03-28 Thread Robert Krüger
thanks. On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Scott Palmer swpal...@gmail.com wrote: I believe the bitbucket repo is the main page. At least the bintray page points to it. Scott On Mar 28, 2015, at 11:10 AM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote: Which repository is the master? Bitbucket

Re: Packaging a JFX app in a gradle build system

2015-03-28 Thread Robert Krüger
Which repository is the master? Bitbucket or github? I just saw a posting by someone mentioning that it is also on github. On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 12:16 AM, Scott Palmer swpal...@gmail.com wrote: I am successfully using

Media player performance on Mac

2015-03-04 Thread Robert Krüger
Hi, I just put a MediaView with a MediaPlayer into a FlowPane and displayed it. Playing a Full-HD H.264 file consumes between 40 and 60% of CPU. Playing the same file in Quicktime consumes about 3-4% CPU. What is the reason for the dramatic difference? Is the player subsystem not using hardware

Re: Media player performance on Mac

2015-03-05 Thread Robert Krüger
the environment you’re running in. Keep in mind the new AVFoundation code is only supported on 10.8 and later due to the lack of certain required APIs in 10.7 and 10.6. -DrD- -- Robert Krüger Managing Partner Lesspain GmbH Co. KG www.lesspain-software.com

Re: Canvas performance on Mac OS

2015-03-27 Thread Robert Krüger
... ...jim On 3/27/15 1:52 PM, Robert Krüger wrote: Hi, I have a super-simple animation implemented using AnimationTimer and Canvas where the canvas just performs a few draw operations, i.e. fills the screen with a color and then draws and fills 2-3 circles and I have already

Canvas performance on Mac OS

2015-03-27 Thread Robert Krüger
Hi, I have a super-simple animation implemented using AnimationTimer and Canvas where the canvas just performs a few draw operations, i.e. fills the screen with a color and then draws and fills 2-3 circles and I have already observed that each drawing operation I add, results in significant CPU

Re: Packaging a JFX app in a gradle build system

2015-03-26 Thread Robert Krüger
Great! Thanks for the update! On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:43 PM, Danno Ferrin danno.fer...@oracle.com wrote: It’s not abandoned, I’ve just had a lot of work on my day job at the moment. For 8u20 and later you can access most of the new features from the builder arguments. Secondary

Re: Canvas performance on Mac OS

2015-03-28 Thread Robert Krüger
-- Robert Krüger Managing Partner Lesspain GmbH Co. KG www.lesspain-software.com -- Robert Krüger Managing Partner Lesspain GmbH Co. KG www.lesspain-software.com

Re: Canvas performance on Mac OS

2015-03-28 Thread Robert Krüger
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Chris Newland cnewl...@chrisnewland.com wrote: Hi Robert, I've not filed a Jira yet as I was hoping to find time to investigate thoroughly but when I saw your question I thought I'd better add my findings. I believe the issue is in the ES2Pipeline as if I

Re: Scroll events fired in TableView although there is nothing to scroll

2015-01-24 Thread Robert Krüger
that: a) someone used the scrollwheel on the mouse b) used the scroll gesture eg on the touch pad So I think you did not really get what onScroll is doing. Tom On 24.01.15 14:15, Robert Krüger wrote: Hi, I am a bit surprised by the behaviour of the onScroll event handling of TableView. I just

Re: The trouble with Skins

2015-03-23 Thread Robert Krüger
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Richard Bair richard.b...@oracle.com wrote: tl;dr; I lean toward keeping the Control API as view-agnostic as possible, but where view details become essential to the operation of the control, then define the Control to always include those specific view

Re: Media API question regarding metadata retrieval

2015-04-02 Thread Robert Krüger
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 10:50 PM, Scott Palmer swpal...@gmail.com wrote: I seems like a decent compromise to defer to the native platform code that will ultimately be used to process the file anyway. It seems a little heavy, but the alternative is perhaps bloating the JavaFX API. Yes

Re: Media API question regarding metadata retrieval

2015-04-02 Thread Robert Krüger
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:48 PM, David DeHaven david.deha...@oracle.com wrote: I was a bit surprised that the metadata retrieval functionality of javafx.scene.media.Media is only usable in conjunction with a player, so if I want to retrieve the dimensions of a video file I have to

Re: Enhancements to 3D for JFX9?

2015-04-23 Thread Robert Krüger
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Mike Hearn m...@plan99.net wrote: I think there are people who are embedding arbitrary OpenGL contexts into the JFX scene graph, so you could plug in a third party 3D engine that way. Though I guess it'd not work on Windows. since the fix version of

Re: Enhancements to 3D for JFX9?

2015-04-24 Thread Robert Krüger
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Mike Hearn m...@plan99.net wrote: this may mean, people who do this must work with a patched JDK in the future. Right. But I think that's going to be more and more common in future. If you rely on people installing proprietary stuff like JWS or applets then

Re: Enhancements to 3D for JFX9?

2015-04-24 Thread Robert Krüger
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Tom Schindl tom.schi...@bestsolution.at wrote: Did you read the reply from Phil in the other thread? There will be a -XX flag in JDK 9 that jigsaw provides to aid in the transition. So you will not have to maintain a JDK9 build but only start with this

Re: Enhancements to 3D for JFX9?

2015-04-24 Thread Robert Krüger
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Donald Smith donald.sm...@oracle.com wrote: Yes, but then read the rest of the thread. You really must not rely on the theoretical possibility of an XX flag that magically kicks all your problems down the road a year or two. The best time to get all this

Re: Enhancements to 3D for JFX9?

2015-04-24 Thread Robert Krüger
the direction that Oracle is taking Java. Neil From:Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de To:openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net, Date:04/24/2015 09:36 AM Subject:Re: Enhancements to 3D for JFX9? Sent by:openjfx-dev openjfx-dev-boun

Re: JavaFX JIRA issues moving to JBS

2015-04-15 Thread Robert Krüger
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Richard Bair richard.b...@oracle.com wrote: Hi everybody, Moving to JBS is both good and bad. The good: The bad: - Contributing is hard (nay, impossible?) if you are not at least an OpenJDK Author That's really the only (and serious) aspect

Re: JavaFX JIRA issues moving to JBS

2015-04-16 Thread Robert Krüger
On Thursday, April 16, 2015, Ryan Jaeb r...@jaeb.ca wrote: My frustration isn't aimed at anyone on the list, so I hope it didn't seem like that. I don't usually post to the list, but I follow it enough to know that, once we see an announcement like the one Kevin delivered, the decision has

Re: JavaFX JIRA issues moving to JBS

2015-04-16 Thread Robert Krüger
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Mario Torre neugens.limasoftw...@gmail.com wrote: On the other end, the rules for Author are clear, you need to sign the OCA (this is the main pain point, but I believe most of the contributors to OpenJFX already have this done anyway, isn't that a

Re: JavaFX JIRA issues moving to JBS

2015-04-15 Thread Robert Krüger
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 12:20 AM, Kevin Rushforth kevin.rushfo...@oracle.com wrote: A JBS account will be needed to directly report new bugs or comment on existing bugs. Most application developers will file new JavaFX bugs at bugs.java.com [3] just like other JDK bugs. The requirement to

Re: JavaFX JIRA issues moving to JBS

2015-04-15 Thread Robert Krüger
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Ryan Jaeb r...@jaeb.ca wrote: Do you guys have an estimate for the percentage of current JIRA contributors that will no longer be able to participate, in a meaningful way, in bug reporting due to this change? I can't speak for anyone else, but I can tell you

Re: Private APIs not usable in Java 9?

2015-04-08 Thread Robert Krüger
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Tomas Mikula tomas.mik...@gmail.com wrote: Should I rely now on all of those fixes to be backported to 8? Why do you need them to be backported to 8? Just having them fixed in 9 should be fine, no? (keeping the private workarounds for 8) It was a response

Re: Private APIs not usable in Java 9?

2015-04-09 Thread Robert Krüger
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Stefan Fuchs snfu...@gmx.de wrote: But in all artificial restrictions to implement your own workarounds using private apis its another minus on our assessment of the risks involved, when investing in the javafx technology. Others are the diminishing plugin

Re: Private APIs not usable in Java 9?

2015-04-08 Thread Robert Krüger
of that will be fixed before we need to do something about it ourselves. On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Danno Ferrin danno.fer...@oracle.com wrote: On Apr 8, 2015, at 1:52 PM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote: our only workaround is to use private API For the benefit of the devs

Re: Canvas performance on Mac OS

2015-04-08 Thread Robert Krüger
Managing Partner Lesspain GmbH Co. KG www.lesspain-software.com -- Robert Krüger Managing Partner Lesspain GmbH Co. KG www.lesspain-software.com

Re: Canvas performance on Mac OS

2015-04-05 Thread Robert Krüger
Hi, On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 10:31 PM, Chris Newland cnewl...@chrisnewland.com wrote: Hi Jim, -snip I think my question is: Does the OpenJFX group think JavaFX is a suitable technology for full frame rate canvas-style graphics or is the degree of indirection between application code and

Private APIs not usable in Java 9?

2015-04-08 Thread Robert Krüger
Hi, I hope this is not too off-topic, because although it came up in a JFX context it's not strictly JFX-only. Someone from our team recently had a chat with a high-ranking regional Oracle representative who gave a talk on the state of JFX. Our guy explained our situation (evaluating JFX to

Re: Private APIs not usable in Java 9?

2015-04-08 Thread Robert Krüger
OK, while I wrote this, all the other replies came in. So I see that your recommendation for the cases I mentioned is then to patch OpenJDK and submit Jira issues. Fair enough. Regarding Jira issues, we are already doing that. Regarding code contribution, this is a different thing, because in

Re: Private APIs not usable in Java 9?

2015-04-08 Thread Robert Krüger
, and see what happens :-) On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Robert Krüger krue...@lesspain.de wrote: Hi, I hope this is not too off-topic, because although it came up in a JFX context it's not strictly JFX-only. Someone from our team recently had a chat with a high-ranking regional

Media API question regarding metadata retrieval

2015-04-01 Thread Robert Krüger
Hi, I was a bit surprised that the metadata retrieval functionality of javafx.scene.media.Media is only usable in conjunction with a player, so if I want to retrieve the dimensions of a video file I have to instantiate a player and wait for it to reach ready state? That's how I read the javadoc.

Re: Media API question regarding metadata retrieval

2015-04-02 Thread Robert Krüger
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 6:16 PM, David DeHaven david.deha...@oracle.com wrote: If not is there a specific reason not to offer this functionality independently of a player? There were plans, there were also issues as we don't have a Java based mp4 parser so we're relying on the

Re: JavaFX JIRA issues moving to JBS on June 5

2015-05-21 Thread Robert Krüger
, typing in an old RT-n number into JBS will open the bug even after it is mapped into the JDK project. -- Kevin [1] http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/openjfx-dev/2015-April/017083.html [2] https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/ -- Robert Krüger Managing Partner Lesspain GmbH Co. KG

Re: MediaPlayer - Out of sync video audio when playing from slow medium

2015-05-22 Thread Robert Krüger
correctly with buffering, but this solution has disadventeges: - more CPU - problems with seeking video - complexity Any other suggestions? -- Robert Krüger Managing Partner Lesspain GmbH Co. KG www.lesspain-software.com

Re: JavaFX graphic performance slow on Mac? Clock app

2015-07-07 Thread Robert Krüger
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Tobias Bley t...@ultramixer.com wrote: Hi, currently our experiences with JavaFX on Mac are very disappointing. While JavaFX on Windows runs very good with low cpu usage, JavaFX on Mac via Java 8 doesn’t perform well. I created a little clock app which uses

Re: OpenGLNode or NativeSurfaceNode

2015-09-08 Thread Robert Krüger
On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 7:45 AM, Edu García wrote: > So, years ago somebody asked on this list if it was possible to have some > sort of OpenGL or NativeSurface node, to be able to integrate OpenGL or > DirectX rendering on top of JavaFX (in my case, to embed something like >

Re: OpenGLNode or NativeSurfaceNode

2015-09-08 Thread Robert Krüger
On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Edu García wrote: > I've seen that, but if I understood that correctly, I need to ship a > modified version of JavaFX in order for it to work properly on Windows, and > it continues to be a hack that might or might not work... That is far from >

Re: Future of JavaFX

2015-12-03 Thread Robert Krüger
Thanks Chien and Kevin. I will recheck my issues with JDK 9 early access and report back, probably here because I cannot comment in JBS. On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Chien Yang <chien.y...@oracle.com> wrote: > On 12/2/15, 4:46 AM, Robert Krüger wrote: > >> How much of a pr

Re: Future of JavaFX

2015-12-02 Thread Robert Krüger
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Re: Future of JavaFX

2015-12-02 Thread Robert Krüger
public > > - UI Control Actions API > > - Public Focus Traversal API > > - JavaFX support for multi-resolution images > > - Draggable tabs > > - Image IO > > > -- Kevin > > [1] > http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk9-dev/2015-December/003149.html > > -- Robert Krüger Managing Partner Lesspain GmbH & Co. KG www.lesspain-software.com

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

2016-06-14 Thread Robert Krüger
PerformanceTracker, is not a problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> Separately, if we don't remove it for JDK 9, we >>>>>> probably will deprecate >>>>>> it with the intention to remove it in a future >>>>>> release. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- Kevin >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> <http://www.oracle.com> Dalibor Topic | Principal >>>>>> Product Manager >>>>>> Phone: +494089091214 <tel:%2B494089091214> >>>>>> <tel:+494089091214 <tel:%2B494089091214>> | Mobile: >>>>>> +491737185961 <tel:%2B491737185961> >>>>>> <tel:+491737185961 <tel:%2B491737185961>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG | Kühnehöfe 5 | >>>>>> 22761 Hamburg >>>>>> >>>>>> ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG >>>>>> Hauptverwaltung: Riesstr. 25, D-80992 München >>>>>> Registergericht: Amtsgericht München, HRA 95603 >>>>>> >>>>>> Komplementärin: ORACLE Deutschland Verwaltung B.V. >>>>>> Hertogswetering 163/167, 3543 AS Utrecht, >>>>>> Niederlande >>>>>> Handelsregister der Handelskammer >>>>>> Midden-Niederlande, Nr. 30143697 >>>>>> Geschäftsführer: Alexander van der Ven, Jan >>>>>> Schultheiss, Val Maher >>>>>> >>>>>> <http://www.oracle.com/commitment> Oracle is >>>>>> committed to developing >>>>>> practices and products that help protect the >>>>>> environment >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> <http://www.oracle.com> Dalibor Topic | Principal Product Manager >>>>>> Phone: +494089091214 <tel:%2B494089091214> <tel:+494089091214 >>>>>> <tel:%2B494089091214>> | Mobile: +491737185961 >>>>>> <tel:%2B491737185961> >>>>>> <tel:+491737185961 <tel:%2B491737185961>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG | Kühnehöfe 5 | 22761 Hamburg >>>>>> >>>>>> ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG >>>>>> Hauptverwaltung: Riesstr. 25, D-80992 München >>>>>> Registergericht: Amtsgericht München, HRA 95603 >>>>>> >>>>>> Komplementärin: ORACLE Deutschland Verwaltung B.V. >>>>>> Hertogswetering 163/167, 3543 AS Utrecht, Niederlande >>>>>> Handelsregister der Handelskammer Midden-Niederlande, Nr. 30143697 >>>>>> Geschäftsführer: Alexander van der Ven, Jan Schultheiss, Val Maher >>>>>> >>>>>> <http://www.oracle.com/commitment> Oracle is committed to >>>>>> developing >>>>>> practices and products that help protect the environment >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> <http://www.oracle.com> Dalibor Topic | Principal Product Manager >>>>> Phone: +494089091214 <tel:+494089091214> | Mobile: +491737185961 >>>>> <tel:+491737185961> >>>>> >>>>> ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG | Kühnehöfe 5 | 22761 Hamburg >>>>> >>>>> ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG >>>>> Hauptverwaltung: Riesstr. 25, D-80992 München >>>>> Registergericht: Amtsgericht München, HRA 95603 >>>>> >>>>> Komplementärin: ORACLE Deutschland Verwaltung B.V. >>>>> Hertogswetering 163/167, 3543 AS Utrecht, Niederlande >>>>> Handelsregister der Handelskammer Midden-Niederlande, Nr. 30143697 >>>>> Geschäftsführer: Alexander van der Ven, Jan Schultheiss, Val Maher >>>>> >>>>> <http://www.oracle.com/commitment> Oracle is committed to developing >>>>> practices and products that help protect the environment >>>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> <http://www.oracle.com> Dalibor Topic | Principal Product Manager >>> Phone: +494089091214 <tel:+494089091214> | Mobile: +491737185961 >>> <tel:+491737185961> >>> >>> ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG | Kühnehöfe 5 | 22761 Hamburg >>> >>> ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG >>> Hauptverwaltung: Riesstr. 25, D-80992 München >>> Registergericht: Amtsgericht München, HRA 95603 >>> >>> Komplementärin: ORACLE Deutschland Verwaltung B.V. >>> Hertogswetering 163/167, 3543 AS Utrecht, Niederlande >>> Handelsregister der Handelskammer Midden-Niederlande, Nr. 30143697 >>> Geschäftsführer: Alexander van der Ven, Jan Schultheiss, Val Maher >>> >>> <http://www.oracle.com/commitment> Oracle is committed to developing >>> practices and products that help protect the environment >>> >> > -- > <http://www.oracle.com> Dalibor Topic | Principal Product Manager > Phone: +494089091214 <tel:+494089091214> | Mobile: +491737185961 > <tel:+491737185961> > > ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG | Kühnehöfe 5 | 22761 Hamburg > > ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG > Hauptverwaltung: Riesstr. 25, D-80992 München > Registergericht: Amtsgericht München, HRA 95603 > > Komplementärin: ORACLE Deutschland Verwaltung B.V. > Hertogswetering 163/167, 3543 AS Utrecht, Niederlande > Handelsregister der Handelskammer Midden-Niederlande, Nr. 30143697 > Geschäftsführer: Alexander van der Ven, Jan Schultheiss, Val Maher > > <http://www.oracle.com/commitment> Oracle is committed to developing > practices and products that help protect the environment > -- Robert Krüger Managing Partner Lesspain GmbH & Co. KG http://lesspain.software http://kyno.software

Re: Feature matrix

2016-01-18 Thread Robert Krüger
and so > it would be a nice addition to the Gluon website. > > Does anyone else think they would find this useful? Could someone from > Oracle and Gluon please respond? > > Felix -- Robert Krüger Managing Partner Lesspain GmbH & Co. KG www.lesspain-software.com