Re: Problem with Timeline keeping references around

2013-10-15 Thread Stephen F Northover
This looks like a bug. Timeline should not be holding on to references. Please enter a JIRA. Steve On 2013-10-15 6:35 PM, John Hendrikx wrote: Hi List, I just submitted https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-33600 which is asking for the Timeline JavaDocs to be more clear on when and

Re: Half-baked API (Camera position)

2013-10-16 Thread Stephen F Northover
Could do something useful with what was there now? We can always fix this in future by adding another API to govern the interpretation of the value. Throwing the exception indicates that the call is unsupported, but application code can be written to catch the exception and when we

Re: Constructor annotation

2013-10-16 Thread Stephen F Northover
argument. Tom On 16.10.13 17:12, Tom Schindl wrote: To me the JavaBean solution with one annotation looks error prone, does anybody know why they did not use an annotation per field? Tom On 16.10.13 16:58, Stephen F Northover wrote: +1 for base. Should we not follow closely what Java Beans is doing

Re: Constructor annotation

2013-10-16 Thread Stephen F Northover
, 2013, at 10:02 AM, Stephen F Northover steve.x.northo...@oracle.com wrote: It seems we are settling on @NamedArgument ... anybody disagree strongly? Steve On 2013-10-16 11:45 AM, Richard Bair wrote: Ya that works too. On Oct 16, 2013, at 8:41 AM, Eva Krejcirova eva.krejcir...@oracle.com

Re: Half-baked API (Camera position)

2013-10-16 Thread Stephen F Northover
AM, Pavel Safrata wrote: On 16.10.2013 17:03, Stephen F Northover wrote: Could do something useful with what was there now? We can always fix this in future by adding another API to govern the interpretation of the value. Not much useful. Anyway, any such stuff can be quite easily done

Re: Half-baked API (Camera position)

2013-10-16 Thread Stephen F Northover
(Not supported yet.); (internal but directly accessible to users via contains()) Pavel On 16.10.2013 20:10, Stephen F Northover wrote: I took a quick look through JavaFX to find how this exception is used. It is mostly used to indicate impossible situation. Is that the situation we have here

Re: Half-baked API (Camera position)

2013-10-16 Thread Stephen F Northover
new UnsupportedOperationException(Not supported yet.); or MeshView.impl_computeContains(): throw new UnsupportedOperationException(Not supported yet.); (internal but directly accessible to users via contains()) Pavel On 16.10.2013 20:10, Stephen F Northover wrote: I took a quick look

Re: GlassScene: setSecurityContext()

2013-10-17 Thread Stephen F Northover
Comment out for now and get working code. On iOS at least, all apps come from the store. Steve On 2013-10-17 11:33 AM, Danno Ferrin wrote: Like I said in earlier ports, the language features of the back port aren't as difficult as the API support. I am guessing the security context has

Re: [REVIEW REQUEST] RT-33442: isSelected in TableViewSelectionModel is called too many times

2013-10-18 Thread Stephen F Northover
If it is a noop, will it not break people when the system calls it and it does nothing? Further, what about discontinuous selections (ie. one item, then an unselected item, then a million selected items in a block). You can do this on native Windows using Shift+Ctrl+Select but I see that

Re: Media is now opensource

2013-10-18 Thread Stephen F Northover
This is huge! Thanks Kirill. Steve On 2013-10-18 12:35 PM, Kirill Kirichenko wrote: Hello OpenJFXers ! We're happy to announce that Media part of JavaFX is now open source. Opensourcing touched all Media component except ON2 FLV demuxer and VP6 decoder. The decoder will remain closed.

Re: [REVIEW REQUEST] RT-33442: isSelected in TableViewSelectionModel is called too many times

2013-10-21 Thread Stephen F Northover
problem in 3) also exists for TreeTableView. I'll get a implementation review done by a controls team member, but a +1 on the API choice would be appreciated. -- Jonathan On 22/10/2013 9:43 a.m., Stephen F Northover wrote: TableSelectionModel is new for JDK8 (at least according to the Javadoc

Re: JavaFX on iOS and Android - are we there yet?

2013-10-22 Thread Stephen F Northover
Rather than arguing this point, the correct answer is to provide both and let the application developer choose. Do you guys know how old this argument is? Hint: It predates Java. Steve On 2013-10-22 6:17 PM, Pedro Duque Vieira wrote: Even the most fab skins or CSS is not going to get us

Re: JFXPanel vs. real world usage

2013-10-24 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hi Matthais, There was quite a debate way back when as to whether there should be heavyweight or lightweight embedding. If heavyweight, then FX would not play well with AWT/Swing and would have all the heavyweight/lightweight issues inherent there. If lightweight, then this is more work for

Re: JFXPanel vs. real world usage

2013-10-24 Thread Stephen F Northover
Please enter a JIRA with your sample code attached. Steve On 2013-10-24 2:37 PM, Tobias Bley wrote: I added a simple accordion as JFXPanel into a swing frame and the performance is not good. the cpu usage goes up to 100% when moving the mouse over the accordion title panes (hover effect).

Re: iOS Default font is wrong

2013-10-29 Thread Stephen F Northover
If the OS is reporting the wrong value for the default a classic trick is to create a dummy control that normally has the font we want and query that. Steve On 2013-10-29 11:21 AM, Richard Bair wrote: Hi guys, The default font for iOS is supposed to be System Bold 15 (according to

Re: JavaFX Builders, possible solution

2013-10-30 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hi Andy, It is unlikely that we will undeprecate the builders but more likely that we could make them available as a separate download so that people that wanted to use them could still use them. Martin will follow up with you. Essentially, we would accept changes that were backward

Re: iOS Default font is wrong

2013-10-30 Thread Stephen F Northover
be our system default the size same as for UIButton, UILabel or other control? I was using iPad3 (iOS 7.0, Xcode 5.0). Olda On 10/29/13 7:32 PM, Stephen F Northover wrote: I was going to create a dummy control (say a Button) and ask for the font. Just an idea. Steve On 2013-10-29 2:18 PM

Re: iOS Default font is wrong

2013-10-30 Thread Stephen F Northover
, could you please prepare a table with the fontSize for all values on CTFontUIFontType for MacOSX and iOS ? Thanks On Oct 30, 2013, at 6:38 AM, Stephen F Northover steve.x.northo...@oracle.com wrote: Let's use UIButton as this seems to match the stack overflow discussion. Steve On 2013-10

Re: JavaFX on rPi iOS with RoboVM

2013-10-30 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hi Tom, I bet if you entered a JIRA for some of these items (with [iOS] in the title), someone ... cough, cough ... might be able to take a look at them. My RoboVM setup has been broken for a few weeks and I have been unable to get to it. Steve On 2013-10-30 11:47 AM, Tom Schindl wrote:

Re: Reenable webkit on jfx78?

2013-10-30 Thread Stephen F Northover
My vote: enable it. Steve On 2013-10-30 6:07 PM, Stefan Fuchs wrote: Hi, Currently the web-module (aka webkit) is not included in the jfx78 backport. I have done some tests after enabling it in jfx78. At least on linux it works fine. However it increases the compile time and memory usage

Re: [API REVIEW] Add javafx.scene.layout.BackgroundInsets (RT-26277)

2013-11-04 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hi David, Looks good. Please update the JIRA with what you intend to do. People are welcome to follow along there if they have any ideas for a different API / approach. Steve On 2013-11-04 2:22 PM, David Grieve wrote: https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-26277 relates to the use of

Re: JFXPanel with WebView in JDK8

2013-11-05 Thread Stephen F Northover
Please enter a JIRA with your test code in it and add me as a watcher. Thanks. Steve On 2013-11-05 2:37 PM, Lidierth Malcolm wrote: NOTE: THIS EXCEPTION OCCURS WITH JDK8, BUT NOT WITH JDK7 public class NewFXMain1 { public static void main(String[] args) throws InterruptedException,

Code Review Policies

2013-11-07 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hello Committers, Let me summarize how to initiate a code review, since this changed recently. All information about how a bug was fixed needs to be in the JIRA. This means that all patches, webrevs, discussions and who is doing the review needs to be captured there. The email to openjfx-dev

Re: Android replaces Dalvik with ART

2013-11-07 Thread Stephen F Northover
This is what .NET does. There was never an interpreter for any managed code. Steve On 2013-11-07 2:54 PM, Stefan Fuchs wrote: Hi, well if I understand it correctly, ART is just an Ahead of Time compiler like robovm. Therefore we can only hope, that they open-source it, so that we can use

Re: did anyone encountered this?

2013-11-08 Thread Stephen F Northover
Let's consider flipping the switch so people don't see the problem or *possibly* switching to gradle 1.8. This is something I see all the time and I'm betting others do too. I have filed https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-34171 to track the issue. Steve On 2013-11-08 8:03 AM, Kevin

Re: Build fail: unresolved external symbol mainCRTStartup

2013-11-08 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hi Leonid, I have the same configuration as you I think. I'm just making sure I can build. First, do you have 32-bit JDK8? Are you running under a cygwin shell? What is your gradle command line? Steve On 2013-11-08 9:08 AM, Leonid Popov wrote: Hi, I've just cloned a new workspace from

Re: Build fail: unresolved external symbol mainCRTStartup

2013-11-13 Thread Stephen F Northover
realize what changed after my last successfull build. Leonid. On 11/8/2013 9:10 PM, Stephen F Northover wrote: Hi Leonid, I have the same configuration as you I think. I'm just making sure I can build. First, do you have 32-bit JDK8? Are you running under a cygwin shell? What is your

Re: H/V resize cursors in a JFXPanel

2013-11-18 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hi Werner, This is all great information. If you can prove that RT-26235 is a dup or related to RT32507, please indicate in the bug reports. Also note the inconsistency. Please add me to the watchers list if not already there. Thanks, Steve On 2013-11-18 7:38 AM, Werner Lehmann wrote:

Re: Use of plugins in WebView

2013-11-19 Thread Stephen F Northover
There is no FX API to get the underlying window handle (HWND) on the desktop or in the browser. Steve On 2013-11-18 9:02 PM, Peter Zhelezniakov wrote: On 11/18/2013 06:20 PM, Philipp Dörfler wrote: And especially a HWND is what I’m looking for. So I guess anything requiring a HWND is just

Re: Show case: JFX on iOS and Android

2013-11-19 Thread Stephen F Northover
Nice work Tobi! Especially building on software that is shifting under your feet. Steve On 2013-11-18 5:02 PM, Tobias Bley wrote: For all who do not follow me on twitter: a few screenshots concerning JFX on iOS and Android: http://blog.software4java.com/?p=148#comment-4629 Best regards,

Re: How to report RT-30362 regressing on b114?

2013-11-20 Thread Stephen F Northover
Please open a new JIRA with all the information that you have put in this email message. Add the label 'regression' in the JIRA label field and put 'Regression' in the title text of the bug (optional but a good idea, that way people scanning a big list of bugs can tell right away that the bug

Re: Does the rendering system in JavaFX process font hints?

2013-11-29 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hi Sybille, Please try your code on jdk8. The font engine in FX has been changed to use the native rasterizer on Windows and Mac. Steve On 2013-11-29 8:14 AM, Sybille Lein wrote: I have some questions about the font rendering system that is used in the JavaFX system. We are developing a

Re: To Be Or Not To Be (Native), was:Look and feel mechanism?

2013-12-09 Thread Stephen F Northover
Here are my thoughts on the matter. Give people the choice of whether to use native or non-native components. In some applications, everything will be non-native. In others, only the main content area will be non-native and the rest will be native. In some mobile applications, perhaps the

Re: To Be Or Not To Be (Native), was:Look and feel mechanism?

2013-12-09 Thread Stephen F Northover
and non-native widgets in the same app with all features of Node being available to every widget, with all the effects and transforms, all the CSS/styling and with all the performance? Could JavaFX ever be such a toolkit? On 10 Dec 2013, at 2:24, Stephen F Northover steve.x.northo...@oracle.com

Re: To Be Or Not To Be (Native), was:Look and feel mechanism?

2013-12-10 Thread Stephen F Northover
-- best regards, Anthony On 12/10/2013 06:14 AM, Stephen F Northover wrote: At one point, I was very interested in seeing this happen but there wasn't the band width and resources. Steve On 2013-12-09 1:00 PM, Felix Bembrick wrote: What can we expect from the JavaFX team in this regard

Re: To Be Or Not To Be (Native), was:Look and feel mechanism?

2013-12-10 Thread Stephen F Northover
I was very interesting in heavyweight integration a while back but could not get anyone very enthusiastic about it. Steve On 2013-12-10 1:35 PM, Felix Bembrick wrote: Stephen, why do you refer to this discussion as academic? Felix On 11 December 2013 05:20, Stephen F Northover

Re: Please put release number in review requests

2013-12-11 Thread Stephen F Northover
This is a great idea. I have seen Anthony doing this already. Steve On 2013-12-11 1:49 PM, Kevin Rushforth wrote: It would be helpful if the release for which a review is requested is in the subject line now that we have multiple releases in flight. A suggestion for this (from the Wiki

Re: [8u20] post-commit notification: RT-34820: Self Illumination map issues of PhongMaterial

2013-12-13 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hi all, I gentle reminder. When others need to verify a bug, they need to know what code was run to test the fix. In the case of RT-34820 and many others, if you read the JIRA, you can find out pretty quickly. However it's nicer if there is a standard comment at the end of the JIRA so

(In)Sanity Testing Mondays

2013-12-13 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hello all, As discussed at the committer meetings earlier this week, starting next week we are going to try out (In)Sanity Testing Mondays. The community is invited to join in. The goal here is to improve our overall quality substantially with a small investment. The testing is NOT

Re: how to scroll ListView to make a specific item visible (only when not visible already)

2013-12-13 Thread Stephen F Northover
Thank for coming back and answering. Steve On 2013-12-13 5:34 PM, Tomas Mikula wrote: On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Tomas Mikula tomas.mik...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, does anyone know of a way to make a specific ListView item visible, but don't scroll the ListView at all if the item is

Re: Option to keep Stages always on top on JavaFX 8 ?

2013-12-16 Thread Stephen F Northover
Look how low the bug number is ... we must fix this. Steve On 2013-12-16 8:54 AM, Anthony Petrov wrote: Hi Peter, You might want to watch this bug: https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-153 -- best regards, Anthony On 12/16/2013 12:22 PM, Peter Penzov wrote: Hi All, I'm also

Re: accessibility

2013-12-16 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hi Michael, Accessibility has been on and off the radar for OpenJFX for quite a while now. Some preliminary work was done, but a final implementation and API was never reached. Further, the people who were working on it either left the company or left to work some place else. The thing

Re: (In)Sanity Testing Mondays

2013-12-16 Thread Stephen F Northover
. Committers: Tomorrow is the last meeting for the year. We won't meet Christmas or New Years Eve. Even I am not that horrible. You can't fool me. There ain't no Sanity Clause! Steve On 2013-12-13 2:50 PM, Stephen F Northover wrote: Hello all, As discussed at the committer meetings

Re: accessibility

2013-12-17 Thread Stephen F Northover
could use this wonderful workforce that your community is! Can you maybe point to bugs and/or share with us specific issues (and pain points) yet unresolved? Cheers, Mario 2013/12/16 Stephen F Northover steve.x.northo...@oracle.com: Hi Michael, Accessibility has been on and off the radar

Re: accessibility

2013-12-17 Thread Stephen F Northover
of California -Original Message- From: openjfx-dev-boun...@openjdk.java.net [mailto:openjfx-dev-boun...@openjdk.java.net] On Behalf Of Stephen F Northover Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:37 AM To: Mario Torre Cc: openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net Subject: Re: accessibility Hi Mario

Re: Additions to apps/toys

2013-12-17 Thread Stephen F Northover
HelloSanity ... a favorite of the (In)Sane testers. Steve On 2013-12-17 4:01 PM, David Hill wrote: As part of RT-34081, I just moved about 50 Hello 'toys' to open source. You can find then under rt/apps/toys/Hello These are toys in the sense that they are not official samples. These are

In(Sanity) Testing Mondays

2013-12-18 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hi all, So the sanity testing was a success. I would not say that the universe has been fundamentally altered because of it but the idea that there is a weekly formal time when we kick the tires of FX is a good one. There were some problems getting the correct bits to test but that will be

Re: In(Sanity) Testing Mondays

2013-12-18 Thread Stephen F Northover
Thanks. Fixed. On 2013-12-18 3:43 PM, Ali Ebrahimi wrote: I think there is a typo in wiki page: M1: January 13, 2013 = M1: January 13, 2014 Best Regards, Ali Ebrahimi On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Stephen F Northover steve.x.northo...@oracle.com

Re: IndexOutOfBoundsException with an empty CSS block

2013-12-23 Thread Stephen F Northover
Sounds like a bug. Please enter a JIRA with your test code. https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/OpenJFX/Submitting+a+Bug+Report Thanks! Steve On 2013-12-22 1:11 PM, Tom Eugelink wrote: When I assign a style class to a GridPane (which is then added to a VBox and that to a BorderPane and

Re: Major regression in mouse event processing..

2013-12-23 Thread Stephen F Northover
Whew! Seems this was not a bug in FX. I thought I'd post back to let people know. Steve On 2013-12-21 2:33 PM, Pedro Duque Vieira wrote: Hi, I'm using Java8 build 120. Recently I've spotted a big difference in the way mouse events are being processed - this should have happened between

Re: Regression: JavaFX 8 doesn't call listeners in Skin implementations

2014-01-03 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hi Florian, I would enter a JIRA with the steps to make the problem happen and the smallest possible example code that shows it. Thanks, Steve On 2014-01-02 5:10 PM, Florian Brunner wrote: I also tried to add a listener directly to control.getDockingSplitPaneChildren() in case the issue is

Re: General schedule/roadmap/status

2014-01-03 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hi Kevin, Oracle builds Java 8 using the OpenJDK. OpenJFX is a part of the OpenJDK and is built into Oracle's Java 8 distribution. The rest of these questions are really for the various different Linux distributions that consume open source projects and produce their own builds. I suggest

Re: JavaFX versus AWT/Swing Hardware Acceleration

2014-01-03 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hi Ryan, I'll let others describe hardware acceleration in AWT/Swing but in JavaFX, D3D and ES2 shaders are used to draw. These run directly on the graphics card and render data that is downloaded there. Because JavaFX has a scene graph, it has a notion of what has been changed and can

Post commit review: [Re: hg: openjfx/8u-dev/rt: RT-35147: [Android, Ensemble8] App should react to hardware buttons on Android]

2014-01-03 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hi Alex, Samples were changed to support Android. Apparently, hitting escape twice should exit an application and this behavior was coded into EnsembleApp. I'm not an Android guy but if this is standard Android behavior, it should be part of JFX, not the example code. Anyhow, I'll let

In(Sanity) Testing Mondays

2014-01-03 Thread Stephen F Northover
and Steve On 12/18/2013 2:32 PM, Stephen F Northover wrote: Hi all, So the sanity testing was a success. I would not say that the universe has been fundamentally altered because of it but the idea that there is a weekly formal time when we kick the tires of FX is a good one. There were some

Re: Very poor performance of JavaFX on iPhone - 6 months later

2014-01-03 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hi Tobias, Sorry about that. Looking at the bug, it seems to me that we have gotten to the bottom of it. Some iOS devices are scrolling fine while others are slower. The difference seems to be that high dpi disables optimizations and this causes the slowness on iOS. The same optimizations

Re: Post commit review: [Re: hg: openjfx/8u-dev/rt: RT-35147: [Android, Ensemble8] App should react to hardware buttons on Android]

2014-01-03 Thread Stephen F Northover
Stephen F Northover wrote: Hi Alex, Samples were changed to support Android. Apparently, hitting escape twice should exit an application and this behavior was coded into EnsembleApp. I'm not an Android guy but if this is standard Android behavior, it should be part of JFX, not the example

Re: Very poor performance of JavaFX on iPhone - 6 months later

2014-01-03 Thread Stephen F Northover
demos since I usually use an external monitor (non-retina). I ended up switching to low dpi. jeff On Jan 3, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Stephen F Northover steve.x.northo...@oracle.com wrote: Hi Tobias, Sorry about that. Looking at the bug, it seems to me that we have gotten to the bottom of it. Some

Re: How to draw line to connect Two components at run time?

2014-01-06 Thread Stephen F Northover
Investigate SplitPane? Not sure what the question is. Steve On 2014-01-06 4:45 PM, Amine Tengilimoglu wrote: Hi; I met a problem and need urgent help from you here, I am new in javafx ... draw lines between any two components(are panes) at RUN-TIME, not at design time pls advice how to

Re: Regression: JavaFX 8 doesn't call listeners in Skin implementations

2014-01-08 Thread Stephen F Northover
F Northover: Hi Florian, I would enter a JIRA with the steps to make the problem happen and the smallest possible example code that shows it. Thanks, Steve On 2014-01-02 5:10 PM, Florian Brunner wrote: I also tried to add a listener directly to control.getDockingSplitPaneChildren() in case

Re: Bug Pass Friday

2014-01-10 Thread Stephen F Northover
. On Jan 7, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Stephen F Northover steve.x.northo...@oracle.com wrote: Hello Committers, I'd like to organize our work for 8u20 this week. Recall that 8u20 is about improving the quality of FX rather than implementing new features. https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display

[8u] Code Review Request - RT-4169,[Stage] Setting 'icons' to null do not reset the Stage icon

2014-01-10 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hi Anthony, Please review https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-4169. It's an old one. Should there be extra points for fixing the oldest bug ever? Thanks, Steve

Re: Post commit review: [Re: hg: openjfx/8u-dev/rt: RT-35147: [Android, Ensemble8] App should react to hardware buttons on Android]

2014-01-13 Thread Stephen F Northover
, which is currently not implemented for Ensemble8) (examples: Samsungs App Store) Stefan Stephen F Northover wrote: Hi Alex, Samples were changed to support Android. Apparently, hitting escape twice should exit an application and this behavior was coded into EnsembleApp. I'm

Re: Post commit review: [Re: hg: openjfx/8u-dev/rt: RT-35147: [Android, Ensemble8] App should react to hardware buttons on Android]

2014-01-13 Thread Stephen F Northover
in this case? Best regards, Alexander Kouznetsov (408) 276-0387 On 3 янв 2014 21:44, Stephen F Northover wrote: Hi Alex, Samples were changed to support Android. Apparently, hitting escape twice should exit an application and this behavior was coded into EnsembleApp. I'm not an Android guy

Re: OpenGL on Windows

2014-01-13 Thread Stephen F Northover
Essentially, OpenGL on Windows would be another platform to support. If you build your own OpenJFX for Windows, it will work but it is completely unsupported. https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/OpenJFX/Building+OpenJFX If you run into any problems after you have successfully built (ie.

Re: OpenGL on Windows

2014-01-14 Thread Stephen F Northover
to address this problem? Thanks, Felix On 14 January 2014 06:28, Stephen F Northover steve.x.northo...@oracle.com mailto:steve.x.northo...@oracle.com wrote: Essentially, OpenGL on Windows would be another platform to support. If you build your own OpenJFX for Windows, it will work

Re: OpenGL on Windows

2014-01-14 Thread Stephen F Northover
to work on a jogl prism pipeline itself? Tom Von meinem iPhone gesendet Am 14.01.2014 um 16:15 schrieb Stephen F Northover steve.x.northo...@oracle.com: It should all just work. The first step is to go and build OpenJFX. If something doesn't work, we can help you through JIRA and this list

Re: JavaFX changes in early acess JDK 8 versions

2014-01-14 Thread Stephen F Northover
I suppose we could query JIRA for bugs fixed within a certain date range. Steve On 2014-01-13 7:25 PM, Herve Girod wrote: OK, I understand, but thanks for your answer though. Herve 2014/1/14 Kevin Rushforth kevin.rushfo...@oracle.com Unfortunately, this is not currently available, as we

Re: JavaFx gtk3 support

2014-01-15 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hi Ilya, Sorry, just processed the bug today. Can we carry on the conversation there? https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-35264 Steve On 2014-01-15 5:54 AM, Ilya Buziuk wrote: Hello. I'm really interested in high level plans about gtk3 support. Assuming that starting from Luna build

Re: The disableProperty / disabledProperty mess

2014-01-15 Thread Stephen F Northover
Funny, this was one of the first things that I asked when I came to FX. I believe we are using the same terminology as the disabled property on DOM nodes. At this point, we cannot change it and I'm not thrilled about adding an alias but let's discuss this in the JIRA. Steve On 2014-01-15

Re: Move to JIRA [was: Re: [8u] API Request: RT-25613, ObservableValue should have a hasListener(listener) method]

2014-01-22 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hi John, The goal is not to end the discussion! It's a trade off. Mailing lists are good because they provide a threaded discussion. JIRA is bad because it is not threaded. JIRA has the advantage that it captures data in a single place and provides a good history of why a decision was

Re: Monocle with VNC for Jenkins

2014-01-23 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hi Uwe, You need to ensure that jfxrt.jar is not in the ext directory in your jdk8 install or it will get seen first. I am assuming you have deleted it or you could not have built OpenJFX (at least the last time I tried). Anyhow, it looks like a class loader problem. Let's move this

Re: javafx on android - weird box within regions

2014-01-28 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hi Christoph, We don't build or run Android so it's a pain to recreate the problem. Please confirm the bug on a desktop platform. It might likely be the bug David is talking about. Also, on desktop, we can't do more than guess at a problem without code:

Re: Improperly triaged bugs

2014-02-05 Thread Stephen F Northover
Here is a link describing the triage process. If you triage a bug, you need to do this. https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/OpenJFX/Triage Steve On 2014-02-05 1:58 PM, Kevin Rushforth wrote: The following is a list of improperly triaged bugs that have been moved out of the new state, and

Re: Failure to find any font (probably on Embedded)

2014-02-12 Thread Stephen F Northover
Embedding URL's in code ... a recipe for stale URL's. I suppose that we put URL's in JavaDoc though. Steve On 2014-02-12 1:53 PM, Kevin Rushforth wrote: A more informative message and an earlier detection both sound good. Not sure about the pointer to the Wiki page, though. We haven't done

OpenJFX Lambda Day, Feb 25th 2014

2014-02-14 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hello all, Mark it on your calendar. Feb 25th is OpenJFX Lambda day. On that day, we will lock the code base, lambdify everything in sight, and then open up for business again. One thing that we won't be doing right away is converting our code to use streams and other JDK8 features but

Re: Heads up... changing the rt/build/*sdk/ directory

2014-02-15 Thread Stephen F Northover
We are not currently using the gradle plugins for any of the IDE's. https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/OpenJFX/Using+an+IDE Steve On 2014-02-14 7:26 PM, Scott Palmer wrote: Are you guys using the NetBeans Gradle plugin? Scott On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Kevin Rushforth

Re: IMPORTANT: Rampdown / stabilization of 8u20 for milestone M2

2014-02-17 Thread Stephen F Northover
Note that changes to IDE files, JavaDoc and other things that do not affect the M2 bits can be released as usual. Having said that, the day before the final freeze would not be a good one to release a billion JavaDoc changes and blow the mind of the release engineers! Steve On 2014-02-14

Re: where to set properties

2014-02-20 Thread Stephen F Northover
-20 1:49 PM, Felix Bembrick wrote: Isn't that because they need to use the Dalvik Java classes and JDK 8 is not supported with Dalvik? On 21 February 2014 05:22, Stephen F Northover steve.x.northo...@oracle.com mailto:steve.x.northo...@oracle.com wrote: On 2014-02-19 12:46 PM, Johan Vos

Lambda Day - Lambda Month

2014-02-24 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hello all, So we announced Lambda Day rather prematurely. I had not actually ran any of the lambdification tooling and once I did, I found that they all produce lamdified code with compile errors. Most of the lamdified code works, but the odd lamdification does not. Naively, we had assumed

[8u20] Review request: RT-35197: Use Lambda in FX runtime and samples

2014-02-26 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hi Martin, Please review the lambdification of the base component. You are welcome to apply the patch, but there are numerous changes and they are all automatic. If you have outstanding changes, please commit them and I will lambdify once more, Jira:

[8u20] Review request: RT-35197: Use Lambda in FX runtime and samples [toys]

2014-02-27 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hi Lisa, Please review the lambdification of the toys component. You are welcome to apply the patch, but there are numerous changes and they are all automatic. If you have outstanding changes, please coordinate with me and I will re-lambdify to include the changes. Jira:

Re: [8u20] Review request: RT-35197: Use Lambda in FX runtime and samples [experiments]

2014-02-28 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hi Lisa, Please review the lambdification of the experiments component. You are welcome to apply the patch, but there are numerous changes and they are all automatic. If you have outstanding changes, please coordinate with me and I will re-lambdify to include the changes. Jira:

Re: [8u20] Review request: RT-35197: Use Lambda in FX runtime and samples

2014-03-03 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hi Anthony, Please review the lambdification of the swing component. You are welcome to apply the patch, but there are numerous changes and they are all automatic. If you have outstanding changes, please coordinate with me and I will re-lambdify to include the changes. Jira:

Re: [8u20] Review request: RT-35197: Use Lambda in FX runtime and samples

2014-03-04 Thread Stephen F Northover
Of course I mean Leonid, who is the owner of web, not Anthony ... On 2014-03-04 1:18 PM, Stephen F Northover wrote: Hi Anthony, Please review the lambdification of the web component. You are welcome to apply the patch, but there are numerous changes and they are all automatic. If you have

Re: Poor font rendering..

2014-03-05 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hi Pedro, Font rendering in FX8 is using the native rasterizer so the glyphs should be identical to what the operating system is rendering. That said, we may have a bug. Please enter a JIRA with sample code and a screen shot of the bad rendering. That will give us something concrete to

[8u20] Review request: RT-35197: Use Lambda in FX runtime and samples

2014-03-05 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hi Kirill, Please review the lambdification of the base component. You are welcome to apply the patch, but there are numerous changes and they are all automatic. If you have outstanding changes, please commit them and I will lambdify once more, Jira:

Re: [8u20] Review request: RT-35197: Use Lambda in FX runtime and samples

2014-03-05 Thread Stephen F Northover
.. of course I mean the media component, not base. I just change the template to say your component ... Steve On 2014-03-05 3:41 PM, Stephen F Northover wrote: Hi Kirill, Please review the lambdification of the base component. You are welcome to apply the patch, but there are numerous

Re: CSS Font size in points doesn't match Node.Font.Size

2014-03-05 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hi all, To change the Java API now would break the universe. All you can do is add new API. This can be in the form of new methods on Font, however things like Font.getSize() must always return pixels. A new method can be added getPoints() and new constructors that take points added, or

Re: [8u20] Review request: RT-35197: Use Lambda in FX runtime and samples

2014-03-06 Thread Stephen F Northover
for. -- best regards, Anthony On 3/6/2014 1:49 PM, Kirill Kirichenko wrote: I couldn't find media part in Jira. On 06.03.2014 00:44, Stephen F Northover wrote: ... of course I mean the media component, not base. I just change the template to say your component ... Steve On 2014-03-05 3:41 PM

Re: CSS Font size in points doesn't match Node.Font.Size

2014-03-06 Thread Stephen F Northover
It can and should. See my previous post. If there is no JIRA for this, then please create one. Thanks, Steve On 2014-03-05 6:18 PM, Tom Schindl wrote: The question the is why fairly all other toolkits use point in their APIs. Some examples: * Qt:

Re: Building and using a debug build of openjfx as the default JavaFX for development

2014-03-10 Thread Stephen F Northover
Thanks John. See also: https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/OpenJFX/Using+an+IDE There are several tricky issues around building, running and debugging OpenJFX from within an IDE. The most important thing is to run the code in the IDE rather than jfxrt.jar and the shared libraries that

Accessibility in OpenJFX: The Saga Continues

2014-03-18 Thread Stephen F Northover
Hi all, We've been looking at Accessibility in FX for quite a while now and it has proved a very difficult component to implement. For one reason or another it has simply not made it into the toolkit. Accessibility is a critical component and one that is essential for a number of reasons.

Re: TaskExecutionException: Execution failed for task ':web:compileGeneratedWin'

2014-03-21 Thread Stephen F Northover
Was this gradle 1.8 or a problem with an EA version of JDK8? In any case, update both. If you can't, doing a clean every time should work but that's not the long term answer. Steve On 2014-03-21 5:49 AM, Kevin Rushforth wrote: Are you using gradle 1.8? This looks like a bug we used to have

Re: TaskExecutionException: Execution failed for task ':web:compileGeneratedWin'

2014-03-21 Thread Stephen F Northover
:47 AM, Kevin Rushforth wrote: This was a gradle 1.4 bug that is fixed in 1.8: http://issues.gradle.org/browse/GRADLE-2831 Leonid just happened to be running an older gradle. -- Kevin Stephen F Northover wrote: Was this gradle 1.8 or a problem with an EA version of JDK8? In any case, update

Re: *PropertyBase vs Simple*Property

2014-03-21 Thread Stephen F Northover
This looks good. I wonder if we should make this (massive) change before we lambda graphics and controls? Probably doesn't matter. We'll need a JIRA and someone assigned to it in order to track the work. Steve On 2014-03-21 12:53 PM, Tom Schindl wrote: Hi Richard, Coming back to this old

Re: Gradle 1.11 (and 1.8) will now fail fast with a clear error [was: TaskExecutionException: Execution failed for task ':web:compileGeneratedWin']

2014-03-21 Thread Stephen F Northover
else warn } You can turn the failures into warnings with gradle -PGRADLE_VERSION_CHECK=false -- Kevin Stephen F Northover wrote: We fail on gradle 1.11. I have filed this bug: https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-36330 I suggest that if we can't fix the bug quickly, we print out

Re: Ability to decorate ChangeListener

2014-03-24 Thread Stephen F Northover
I'm pretty sure this discussion has solidified around not flipping the equals() but this is a good example of something that we wouldn't change. If you write code that relies on this, it will break in the future when new code is added in FX that does not follow the pattern. Steve On

Re: Using JavaFX deploy and having signing issues...

2014-03-24 Thread Stephen F Northover
Yes and we'll put them on the OpenJFX wiki. Steve On 2014-03-24 6:39 PM, Mark Fortner wrote: Tony and/or Danno, Would you mind documenting the steps that you had to go through to make a Mac application that was submittable to the Apple Store? I'm sure everyone who's struggling to create

Re: Adding GStreamer plugins

2014-03-25 Thread Stephen F Northover
On 2014-03-25 7:00 AM, Kirill Kirichenko wrote: Hi Michael. See my comments inline. On 24.03.2014 04:31, Michael Berry wrote: I'm now a bit further along with this, though struggling to get the matroska plugin to compile (getting a bunch of unresolved external symbol errors for functions it

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