Re: Font rendering hints - RT-36146 - progress?
It is one of many RFEs that we might consider for JDK 9, but have not committed to. I don't think Phil has looked into it recently, but perhaps he can provide an update on it. -- Kevin Felix Bembrick wrote: Has anyone had a look at this, done some work on it or can provide some details as to its progress? Thanks, Felix On 11 June 2015 at 13:50, Felix Bembrick felix.bembr...@gmail.com wrote: I am following this one closely and hoping that some progress has been made and that a fix is planned but it's difficult to determine from the JIRA issue. Does anyone have any additional info on where this issue is at? Thanks, Felix
Re: Font rendering hints - RT-36146 - progress?
If you can figure out some apps for which there is source and provide those tweaks that might help understand the differences but I am not sure it will be as straightforward as you hope. -phil.. On 6/15/15 1:52 PM, Felix Bembrick wrote: The thing is that the way DirectWrite is utilised now by JavaFX either through which hints are applied by default or by some other way, the result is text which does not render exactly the same way as (almost) every native Windows application that also utilises DirectWrite. Wouldn't a simpler solution (or at least a first step) be just to tweak the hints and options until JavaFX font rendering on Windows matches the way native apps do it? I believe at the moment all the default options are selected so perhaps experimenting with some of the non-default options or examining actual code of some native apps to see which options/hints they are setting would arrive at a best match configuration that could replace the all defaults configuration we have now? Then, later down the track, these hints/options could potentially be made user-configurable. On 16 June 2015 at 06:05, Phil Race philip.r...@oracle.com mailto:philip.r...@oracle.com wrote: I would have to look at it starting more or less from scratch and I do not know that it would be as simple as providing a way to tweak DirectWrite rendering. The differences seem to be quite small differences in sub-pixel intensity and sub-pixel accumulation of the total advance. I do not know what API or client produced the 'native' rendering. And what if someone else wants something different again ? So I am not sure when we will get to looking into this and deciding if it makes sense. -phil. On 06/14/2015 02:31 PM, Felix Bembrick wrote: Has anyone had a look at this, done some work on it or can provide some details as to its progress? Thanks, Felix On 11 June 2015 at 13:50, Felix Bembrick felix.bembr...@gmail.com mailto:felix.bembr...@gmail.com wrote: I am following this one closely and hoping that some progress has been made and that a fix is planned but it's difficult to determine from the JIRA issue. Does anyone have any additional info on where this issue is at? Thanks, Felix
Re: Font rendering hints - RT-36146 - progress?
I would have to look at it starting more or less from scratch and I do not know that it would be as simple as providing a way to tweak DirectWrite rendering. The differences seem to be quite small differences in sub-pixel intensity and sub-pixel accumulation of the total advance. I do not know what API or client produced the 'native' rendering. And what if someone else wants something different again ? So I am not sure when we will get to looking into this and deciding if it makes sense. -phil. On 06/14/2015 02:31 PM, Felix Bembrick wrote: Has anyone had a look at this, done some work on it or can provide some details as to its progress? Thanks, Felix On 11 June 2015 at 13:50, Felix Bembrick felix.bembr...@gmail.com wrote: I am following this one closely and hoping that some progress has been made and that a fix is planned but it's difficult to determine from the JIRA issue. Does anyone have any additional info on where this issue is at? Thanks, Felix
Re: Font rendering hints - RT-36146 - progress?
The thing is that the way DirectWrite is utilised now by JavaFX either through which hints are applied by default or by some other way, the result is text which does not render exactly the same way as (almost) every native Windows application that also utilises DirectWrite. Wouldn't a simpler solution (or at least a first step) be just to tweak the hints and options until JavaFX font rendering on Windows matches the way native apps do it? I believe at the moment all the default options are selected so perhaps experimenting with some of the non-default options or examining actual code of some native apps to see which options/hints they are setting would arrive at a best match configuration that could replace the all defaults configuration we have now? Then, later down the track, these hints/options could potentially be made user-configurable. On 16 June 2015 at 06:05, Phil Race philip.r...@oracle.com wrote: I would have to look at it starting more or less from scratch and I do not know that it would be as simple as providing a way to tweak DirectWrite rendering. The differences seem to be quite small differences in sub-pixel intensity and sub-pixel accumulation of the total advance. I do not know what API or client produced the 'native' rendering. And what if someone else wants something different again ? So I am not sure when we will get to looking into this and deciding if it makes sense. -phil. On 06/14/2015 02:31 PM, Felix Bembrick wrote: Has anyone had a look at this, done some work on it or can provide some details as to its progress? Thanks, Felix On 11 June 2015 at 13:50, Felix Bembrick felix.bembr...@gmail.com wrote: I am following this one closely and hoping that some progress has been made and that a fix is planned but it's difficult to determine from the JIRA issue. Does anyone have any additional info on where this issue is at? Thanks, Felix
Re: Font rendering hints - RT-36146 - progress?
Has anyone had a look at this, done some work on it or can provide some details as to its progress? Thanks, Felix On 11 June 2015 at 13:50, Felix Bembrick felix.bembr...@gmail.com wrote: I am following this one closely and hoping that some progress has been made and that a fix is planned but it's difficult to determine from the JIRA issue. Does anyone have any additional info on where this issue is at? Thanks, Felix
