[Openocd-development] [PATCH 2/5] Update TODO list to relect 0.2.0 release.

2009-06-30 Thread Zach Welch
Update TODO list to relect 0.2.0 release. --- TODO | 71 --- 1 file changed, 34 insertions(+), 37 deletions(-) Update TODO list to relect 0.2.0 release. --- TODO | 71

[Openocd-development] [PATCH 3/5] Add missing copyright header and fix @page direction in membuf.h.

2009-06-30 Thread Zach Welch
Add missing copyright header and fix @page direction in membuf.h. --- membuf.h | 24 +--- 1 file changed, 21 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) Add missing copyright header and fix @page direction in membuf.h. --- membuf.h | 24 +--- 1 file changed, 21

[Openocd-development] [PATCH 4/5] Add missing copyright header to target_type.h.

2009-06-30 Thread Zach Welch
Add missing copyright header to target_type.h. --- target_type.h | 25 + 1 file changed, 25 insertions(+) Add missing copyright header to target_type.h. --- target_type.h | 25 + 1 file changed, 25 insertions(+) == only in patch2:

[Openocd-development] [PATCH 5/5] Minor fixes to Developer Manual pages.

2009-06-30 Thread Zach Welch
Minor fixes to Developer Manual pages. - Fix cosmetic bug on main page - Add missing JTAG list item. --- main.txt |3 ++- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) Minor fixes to Developer Manual pages. - Fix cosmetic bug on main page - Add missing JTAG list item. --- main.txt |3

Re: [Openocd-development] Debug from flash, on Luminary LM3S6918 with breakpts, GDB, ARM-USB-TINY

2009-06-29 Thread Zach Welch
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 14:41 -0700, Joseph Kuss wrote: Øyvind, Is this a .exe file that will run from windows, like the 0.1.0 I have ?? Is this 0.2.0 ? Where Can I download this ? Looking at your log files, you appear to be using the FTD2XX driver. For that driver, your single option will

[Openocd-development] [PATCH 0/11] Random cleanups and fixes

2009-06-29 Thread Zach Welch
This series provides a number of minor fixes that need to be done to improve the quality of the pending 0.2.0 package release. 1/11Improve BUGS file working and layout. 2/11Make bug reporting output at program start-ups use fewer new lines: 3/11Fix logger.pl script to avoid spurious

[Openocd-development] [PATCH 2/11] Make bug reporting output at program start-ups use fewer new lines:

2009-06-29 Thread Zach Welch
Make bug reporting output at program start-ups use fewer new lines: - Move repository URL output associate it with the version; they relate. - 'openocd --version' output now appears much more terse, as expected. --- openocd.c |5 +++-- 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) Make bug

[Openocd-development] [PATCH 3/11] Fix logger.pl script to avoid spurious empty line in some cases.

2009-06-29 Thread Zach Welch
Fix logger.pl script to avoid spurious empty line in some cases. --- logger.pl |2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) Fix logger.pl script to avoid spurious empty line in some cases. --- logger.pl |2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) == only in patch2:

[Openocd-development] [PATCH 4/11] Provide some useful information in README file, rather than punting.

2009-06-29 Thread Zach Welch
Provide some useful information in README file, rather than punting. --- README | 24 +++- 1 file changed, 23 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) Provide some useful information in README file, rather than punting. --- README | 24 +++- 1 file changed, 23

[Openocd-development] [PATCH 6/11] Improve standard INSTALL document with OpenOCD-specific introduction:

2009-06-29 Thread Zach Welch
Improve standard INSTALL document with OpenOCD-specific introduction: - The standard INSTALL instructions allow building the documentation. - Refer users to The User's Guide with better step-wise instructions. --- INSTALL | 14 ++ 1 file changed, 14 insertions(+) Improve standard

[Openocd-development] [PATCH 5/11] Add installation instructions provided by FSF, rather than punting.

2009-06-29 Thread Zach Welch
Add installation instructions provided by FSF, rather than punting. --- INSTALL | 292 +++- 1 file changed, 291 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) Add installation instructions provided by FSF, rather than punting. --- INSTALL | 292

[Openocd-development] [PATCH 9/11] Fix doxygen warnings in new at91sam3 source file; normalize style.

2009-06-29 Thread Zach Welch
Fix doxygen warnings in new at91sam3 source file; normalize style. Remove editor configuration from end of file. --- at91sam3.c | 83 +++-- 1 file changed, 37 insertions(+), 46 deletions(-) Fix doxygen warnings in new at91sam3 source file;

[Openocd-development] [PATCH 8/11] Fix @file documentation blocks in new interfaces source files.

2009-06-29 Thread Zach Welch
Fix @file documentation blocks in new interfaces source files. --- interfaces.c | 10 +- interfaces.h |4 ++-- 2 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-) Fix @file documentation blocks in new interfaces source files. --- interfaces.c | 10 +- interfaces.h |4

[Openocd-development] [PATCH 11/11] Fix search and replace casualty in flash.h doxygen block.

2009-06-29 Thread Zach Welch
Fix search and replace casualty in flash.h doxygen block. --- flash.h |2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) Fix search and replace casualty in flash.h doxygen block. --- flash.h |2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) == only in patch2: unchanged: ---

[Openocd-development] [PATCH 10/11] Fix doxygen warning in jtag.h caused by a changed parameter name.

2009-06-29 Thread Zach Welch
Fix doxygen warning in jtag.h caused by a changed parameter name. --- jtag.h |2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) Fix doxygen warning in jtag.h caused by a changed parameter name. --- jtag.h |2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) == only in patch2:

Re: [Openocd-development] Debug from flash, on Luminary LM3S6918 with breakpts, GDB, ARM-USB-TINY

2009-06-29 Thread Zach Welch
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 15:40 -0700, Joseph Kuss wrote: Øyvind This is where I need a tutorial, I have not built my own openOCD , all that I have built is my target program using windows versions of GCC for ARM. . What tools do I need to do this ? Could you just build me a windows .exe

Re: [Openocd-development] [PATCH 6/11] Improve standard INSTALL document with OpenOCD-specific introduction:

2009-06-29 Thread Zach Welch
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 16:06 -0700, David Brownell wrote: On Monday 29 June 2009, Zach Welch wrote: + +This file contains a set of generic instructions, provided by default +for all GNU automake packages. These instructions should be sufficient +for you to configure the package to a point

Re: [Openocd-development] Debug from flash, on Luminary LM3S6918 with breakpts, GDB, ARM-USB-TINY

2009-06-29 Thread Zach Welch
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 17:11 -0700, Joseph Kuss wrote: [snip] FTDI is a chip company correct ?, I believe, openOCD consortium or whatever it is you guys call yourself have reasons why they must keep to the GPL terms, Which you could explain to me if you want, but for end users like me, I

Re: [Openocd-development] Debug from flash, on Luminary LM3S6918 with breakpts, GDB, ARM-USB-TINY

2009-06-29 Thread Zach Welch
The J-Link driver is GPL, and it has no licensing problems. If you can use that, you may have some success; however, the 0.2.0 release will contain a lot of fixes to this driver, which improve functionality and compatibility among more versions of the dongles. If you use that dongle, the a 0.2.0

Re: [Openocd-development] loadable drivers

2009-06-29 Thread Zach Welch
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 18:07 -0700, David Brownell wrote: On Sunday 28 June 2009, Zach Welch wrote: To finish this task, the following more invasive changes are needed: Getting rid of the array-of-drivers thing would be good too. :) For things statically linked into the server, a linked

Re: [Openocd-development] [PATCH 6/11] Improve standard INSTALL document with OpenOCD-specific introduction:

2009-06-29 Thread Zach Welch
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 18:32 -0700, David Brownell wrote: On Monday 29 June 2009, Zach Welch wrote: +That OpenOCD Users's Guide contains information about OpenOCD-specific +configuration options that are available. I'd rather not see the User's guide get further clutter like

Re: [Openocd-development] [patch] dynamic loading of ftd2xx.dll for windows in ft2232.c

2009-06-28 Thread Zach Welch
On Sun, 2009-06-28 at 12:50 +0200, Freddie Chopin wrote: Dominic pisze: It isn't possible with the current ft2232.c code because it uses conditional compilation to compile either with libftdi or FTD2XX. While offering basically the same functionality there are not only syntactical but

[Openocd-development] loadable drivers

2009-06-28 Thread Zach Welch
Hey all, I just committed the following patch to assist future development of the JTAG interface driver modules, encapsulating this into its own source file separate from everything else. This simply moves lines of codes and adds some documentation, and the new files will allow developing a

Re: [Openocd-development] [patch] dynamic loading of ftd2xx.dll for windows in ft2232.c

2009-06-27 Thread Zach Welch
On Sat, 2009-06-27 at 20:50 +0200, Freddie Chopin wrote: Second version of previous patch improved with suggestions from Ronald. Pls try (; Works for me : This patch now looks 1000 times better with the changes from Ronald. Thanks to both of you for producing and refining it. My only

Re: [Openocd-development] [patch] dynamic loading of ftd2xx.dll for windows in ft2232.c

2009-06-27 Thread Zach Welch
On Sun, 2009-06-28 at 01:23 +, Martin Panter wrote: On 27/06/2009, Freddie Chopin freddie_cho...@op.pl wrote: 1. (this one) enable dynamic loading of ftd2xx.dll in ft2232.c 2. enable dynamic loading of libusb0.dll in ft2232.c So why loading libusb rather than libftdi? Is it because

[Openocd-development] ftd2xx - libftdi

2009-06-26 Thread Zach Welch
engineering; I can fix the performance. Windows fixes must be obtained elsewhere, as I don't use that; however, any engineer with similar experience and confidence could do both tasks. Cheers, Zach Welch Corvallis, OR ** If the FSF is responsive to other inquiries, but fails to respond to my inquiry about

Re: [Openocd-development] ftd2xx - libftdi

2009-06-26 Thread Zach Welch
On Fri, 2009-06-26 at 11:15 -0400, Duane Ellis wrote: Zach Welch wrote: Only libusb+libftdi serves our long-term interests. Wrong. libusb is a *blocking* issue that we cannot control, fix, nor whatever. LIBUSB is not supported by *newer* windows platforms. Unless and until

Re: [Openocd-development] [windows + openocd] GPL implementation of libd2xx.dll ?

2009-06-26 Thread Zach Welch
On Fri, 2009-06-26 at 16:32 +0200, Pavel Chromy wrote: [snip] No offense but isn't this sort of GPL madness? Yes. This is completely insane: that you would continue to ask me for advice that should be best answered by legal counsel. I am not a lawyer and cannot give you the advice that you

[Openocd-development] chaining targets

2009-06-26 Thread Zach Welch
Hi all, While reviewing some of the recent documentation improvements, I started thinking about daisy chaining two (or more) of my targets together into a single scan chain, allowing me to write a script that flashes each unit in turn. In theory, I think this could just work today, assuming that

Re: [Openocd-development] chaining targets

2009-06-26 Thread Zach Welch
On Fri, 2009-06-26 at 17:04 -0700, David Brownell wrote: On Friday 26 June 2009, Zach Welch wrote: Any tips for handling N RTCK signals, other than my brute force use part(s) of a 7400 series IC or plain simply don't approaches? I found some info in a TI presentation when I

Re: [Openocd-development] The OpenOCD Foundation

2009-06-25 Thread Zach Welch
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 23:48 +0100, Wookey wrote: +++ Zach Welch [2009-06-24 14:00 -0700]: On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 09:30 -0700, Zach Welch wrote: I hereby commit myself to donating all profits recovered in the pursuit of OpenOCD GPL violations on my behalf to a non-profit. I would prefer

Re: [Openocd-development] openocd, ftd2xx

2009-06-25 Thread Zach Welch
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 01:17 -0700, Rob Barris wrote: On Jun 24, 2009, at 1:32 PM, openocd-development-requ...@lists.berlios.de wrote: 4) libftdi-ftd2xx: ABI compatible with libftdi, wraps ftd2xx How would ftd2xx be linked here? Via LoadLibrary (dlopen) and friends? I'd

[Openocd-development] platform survey

2009-06-25 Thread Zach Welch
Hi all, Michael Fischer posted the following survey on the SparkFun forum: http://forum.sparkfun.com/viewtopic.php?t=16044 Please _everyone_ register (sorry) and tell us what host OS you want to use OpenOCD with. It's not scientific or accurate, but comments could help fill in information

Re: [Openocd-development] platform survey

2009-06-25 Thread Zach Welch
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 11:12 +0200, freddie_cho...@op.pl wrote: Zach Welch z...@superlucidity.net napisał(a): Hi all, Michael Fischer posted the following survey on the SparkFun forum: http://forum.sparkfun.com/viewtopic.php?t=16044 There are already some more votes here

Re: [Openocd-development] License

2009-06-25 Thread Zach Welch
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 01:09 -0700, Rob Barris wrote: On Jun 23, 2009, at 7:53 PM, Rick Altherr wrote: Technically, nothing is required from the project-side. The infringement happens solely at the time of distribution, not at the time of authoring or compilation. Since OpenOCD is only

Re: [Openocd-development] Summer coding project proposal

2009-06-25 Thread Zach Welch
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 14:55 +0200, Michael Bruck wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 17:34, Zach Welchz...@superlucidity.net wrote: On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 16:00 +0200, Michael Bruck wrote: The libusb improvements certainly sound interesting, however no one has stepped forward to implement them

Re: [Openocd-development] platform survey

2009-06-25 Thread Zach Welch
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 19:19 +0200, Michael Schwingen wrote: Zach Welch wrote: Hi all, Michael Fischer posted the following survey on the SparkFun forum: http://forum.sparkfun.com/viewtopic.php?t=16044 Please _everyone_ register (sorry) and tell us what host OS you want to use

Re: [Openocd-development] [windows + openocd] GPL implementation of libd2xx.dll ?

2009-06-25 Thread Zach Welch
On Fri, 2009-06-26 at 00:21 +0159, Maciej Grela wrote: Hi, A friend of mine pointed me to the threads concerning GPL/windows/building/libftdi/libusb/libd2xx. After reading all this an idea came to my head - what if we implement our own GPL/LGPL version of libd2xx.dll ? [snip] My concern

Re: [Openocd-development] platform survey

2009-06-25 Thread Zach Welch
here. It doesn't appear to require a login to work: http://www.freepollhosting.com/directory.php?id=437page=6pop= The site seems still beta, but it should be able to house the poll at the very least. // Dean On 06/25/2009 05:32 PM, Zach Welch wrote: On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 19:19 +0200

Re: [Openocd-development] License

2009-06-24 Thread Zach Welch
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 09:46 +0200, Nico Coesel wrote: -Original Message- From: openocd-development-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:openocd- development-boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Zach Welch Sent: woensdag 24 juni 2009 1:10 To: Rick Altherr Cc: openocd-development

Re: [Openocd-development] Departing

2009-06-24 Thread Zach Welch
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 19:53 -0700, Rick Altherr wrote: Not only do I have a lack of time to work on OpenOCD, but I've been dismayed by the arguments of late. I originally joined the project because my Luminary eval kit wasn't working properly with OpenOCD. Since then I've tried to help

Re: [Openocd-development] License

2009-06-24 Thread Zach Welch
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 10:52 +0200, Nico Coesel wrote: -Original Message- From: Zach Welch [mailto:z...@superlucidity.net] Sent: woensdag 24 juni 2009 10:27 To: Nico Coesel Cc: openocd-development@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Openocd-development] License On Wed, 2009-06

Re: [Openocd-development] Summer coding project proposal

2009-06-24 Thread Zach Welch
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 11:18 +0200, Magnus Lundin wrote: Simple project for a CS student. A wrapper with a libftdi interface calling libftd2xx, as a project using a LGPL license So any user can take their binary copy of OpenOCD linked against libftdi and simply replace the libftdi dll

Re: [Openocd-development] Summer coding project proposal

2009-06-24 Thread Zach Welch
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 11:46 +0200, Michael Bruck wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:30, Øyvind Harboeoyvind.har...@zylin.com wrote: But why should we go for such an inferior and specif solution when a more general one is proposed and worked on? What are the speed/roundtrip time implications

[Openocd-development] OpenOCD license

2009-06-24 Thread Zach Welch
then, please feel free to hate me for sticking to my ideals and believing in the wisdom of foresight on these matters. I can take it. Otherwise, I am looking forward to seeing the community move past these issues and onto more constructive development matters. Cheers, Zach Welch Corvallis

Re: [Openocd-development] Summer coding project proposal

2009-06-24 Thread Zach Welch
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 12:23 +0200, Michael Bruck wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:42, Zach Welchz...@superlucidity.net wrote: On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 11:18 +0200, Magnus Lundin wrote: Simple project for a CS student. A wrapper with a libftdi interface calling libftd2xx, as a project using

Re: [Openocd-development] License

2009-06-24 Thread Zach Welch
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 12:20 +0200, Dominic Rath wrote: This goes inentionally to you alone, feel free to bring it up on the list if you want... You have made me start to wonder if it would be possible to bring some sort of claim of misrepresentation against the project authors, were

Re: [Openocd-development] License

2009-06-24 Thread Zach Welch
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 14:08 +0200, Øyvind Harboe wrote: Hi Dominic, first of all: there is every evidence that the technical problems that USB are encountering these days will be resolved *LONG* before any change in license could be effecuated. I even believe that USB problems will be

Re: [Openocd-development] New Flash Target: Atmel AT91SAM3 - Cortex M3

2009-06-24 Thread Zach Welch
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 09:09 -0400, Duane Ellis wrote: Zach Welch wrote: Fixed. There were a few could be used uninitialized warnings too. These seem like they should have been covered by --enable-werror. Duane, are you building with that option before committing changes? I

Re: [Openocd-development] New Flash Target: Atmel AT91SAM3 - Cortex M3

2009-06-24 Thread Zach Welch
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 09:13 -0400, Duane Ellis wrote: David Brownell wrote: I get all kinds of build errors on Ubuntu 9.04/x86_32 where the chip details banks get initialized. The errors made no sense to me, and they went away when I changed the .bank[0] = { ... }, .bank[1] =

Re: [Openocd-development] New Flash Target: Atmel AT91SAM3 - Cortex M3

2009-06-24 Thread Zach Welch
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 09:56 -0400, Duane Ellis wrote: David Brownell wrote: I get all kinds of build errors on Ubuntu 9.04/x86_32 where the [snip] .bank[0] = { ... }, duane i thought the bank[0] = { } was valid C99 initialization. zach I just realized that I left out

Re: [Openocd-development] New Flash Target: Atmel AT91SAM3 - Cortex M3

2009-06-24 Thread Zach Welch
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 07:28 -0700, Zach Welch wrote: On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 09:56 -0400, Duane Ellis wrote: David Brownell wrote: I get all kinds of build errors on Ubuntu 9.04/x86_32 where the [snip] .bank[0] = { ... }, duane i thought the bank[0] = { } was valid C99

Re: [Openocd-development] Summer coding project proposal

2009-06-24 Thread Zach Welch
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 16:00 +0200, Michael Bruck wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 13:29, Zach Welchz...@superlucidity.net wrote: On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 12:23 +0200, Michael Bruck wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:42, Zach Welchz...@superlucidity.net wrote: [snip] There is no infringement here,

Re: [Openocd-development] Summer coding project proposal

2009-06-24 Thread Zach Welch
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 08:34 -0700, Zach Welch wrote: On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 16:00 +0200, Michael Bruck wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 13:29, Zach Welchz...@superlucidity.net wrote: On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 12:23 +0200, Michael Bruck wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:42, Zach Welchz

Re: [Openocd-development] Summer coding project proposal

2009-06-24 Thread Zach Welch
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 17:53 +0100, John Devereux wrote: Zach Welch z...@superlucidity.net writes: On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 11:18 +0200, Magnus Lundin wrote: Simple project for a CS student. A wrapper with a libftdi interface calling libftd2xx, as a project using a LGPL license So

Re: [Openocd-development] License

2009-06-24 Thread Zach Welch
under the GPL license. We will find solutions for users that solve these problems that comply with its terms. Cheers, Zach Welch Corvallis, OR ___ Openocd-development mailing list Openocd-development@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman

Re: [Openocd-development] openocd, ftd2xx

2009-06-24 Thread Zach Welch
. Too many of mine die a similar death, and it could be something to share a laugh over... in a year or two. ;) On Wednesday 24 June 2009 18:30:09 Zach Welch wrote: Hi all, Here is the full list of GPL-compliant solutions for libftd2xx GPL compliance, after further review, consideration

Re: [Openocd-development] openocd, ftd2xx

2009-06-24 Thread Zach Welch
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 20:14 +0100, Ian Guffick wrote: snip Here is the full list of GPL-compliant solutions for libftd2xx GPL compliance, after further review, consideration, and enumeration: 1) Documentation: build it yourself! 2) Build-Kit: automate the build on users' machines 3)

Re: [Openocd-development] License

2009-06-24 Thread Zach Welch
. ;) On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 19:35 +0200, Dominic wrote: On Wednesday 24 June 2009 19:04:37 Zach Welch wrote: Are you any of those things, today? Is he contributing, today? Please respect MR. Dominic Rath. He is the CREATOR of OpenOCD 2004 (with 1-2 years or more of intensive coding

[Openocd-development] The OpenOCD Foundation

2009-06-24 Thread Zach Welch
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 09:30 -0700, Zach Welch wrote: [snip] To reiterate, I am now no longer willing to accept offers to do the work that I actually need to survive, to demonstrate that my motives here have no profit in them anymore. All previous offers for me to do paid work are now off

[Openocd-development] first ftd2xx fix: documentation!

2009-06-24 Thread Zach Welch
Hello, It remains somewhat unclear to me exactly how badly distributors need to see a solution today, when users (who are all developers, right?) should be able to compile the code themselves and use the FTD2XX driver. If Windows is the blocker, the first question that should be answered is:

Re: [Openocd-development] Creative summary of options for OpenOCD distros

2009-06-24 Thread Zach Welch
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 21:36 +0200, Ronald Vanschoren wrote: Note: Linux kernel modules need to be GPL, too - the only way to have non-GPL drivers in Linux is to have userspace drivers, which are quite limited in capabilities. This is not correct. GPL v2 talks about derived work.

Re: [Openocd-development] Creative summary of options for OpenOCD distros

2009-06-24 Thread Zach Welch
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 00:12 +0200, Ronald Vanschoren wrote: This is _very_ apt observation, and one I almost forgot myself. Thanks ;-) As (I think) you say here, the Linux kernel module scenario does not affect the legality of a loadable module in the same user-space process as

Re: [Openocd-development] OpenOCD, the GPL, and FTD2XX

2009-06-23 Thread Zach Welch
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 09:32 +0200, Øyvind Harboe wrote: An option that should be on there would be for FTDI to change their license? Yes! I put that in my reply to Harald, but I did forget to include it in my summary. I just figured that I would list things that we as a community could

Re: [Openocd-development] FT2232 Windows - summary of options

2009-06-23 Thread Zach Welch
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 11:49 +0200, Laurent Gauch wrote: / Øyvind mentioned the idea of wrapping the JTAG API in TCP/IP. Aside // from performance implications I think this would require some // significant development efforts with little immediate benefits. Even // worse, it would

Re: [Openocd-development] OpenOCD and TCP/IP socket server (now I have understand GPL)

2009-06-23 Thread Zach Welch
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 20:37 +0200, Michael Fischer wrote: Hello List, as I understand it correct, everything can be used, even close software, if they do not use the same program space like the GPL application. Now I have understand while we can not use the wraper DLL! Correct. Second

Re: [Openocd-development] OpenOCD, the GPL, and FTD2XX

2009-06-23 Thread Zach Welch
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 20:20 +0200, Freddie Chopin wrote: [snip] Why do you consider it OK to ignore a license just because it inconveniences you? Do you hold the same view regarding things you create? Why do you consider it OK to overinterpret the license just because it inconveniences

Re: [Openocd-development] FTD2XX.LIB - a Windows user perspective

2009-06-23 Thread Zach Welch
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 20:19 +0100, Ian Guffick wrote: Hello to all, I don't want to get involved in the 'war' that seems to have erupted over this issue. I am a user of OpenOCD rather than a developer, I regularly grab SVN head and compile it under Cygwin for Windows with FTD2XX.lib. And

Re: [Openocd-development] OpenOCD, the GPL, and FTD2XX

2009-06-23 Thread Zach Welch
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 12:59 -0700, Rick Altherr wrote: On Jun 23, 2009, at 11:49 AM, Zach Welch wrote: On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 20:20 +0200, Freddie Chopin wrote: [snip] Why do you consider it OK to ignore a license just because it inconveniences you? Do you hold the same view regarding

Re: [Openocd-development] OpenOCD, the GPL, and FTD2XX

2009-06-23 Thread Zach Welch
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 21:53 +0100, John Devereux wrote: Anders Montonen anders.monto...@iki.fi writes: On Jun 23, 2009, at 21:20, Freddie Chopin wrote: Anders Montonen pisze: Right, but section four says You may not copy, modify, sublicense, *or* distribute the Program (emphasis

Re: [Openocd-development] License

2009-06-23 Thread Zach Welch
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 22:16 +0200, Dominic wrote: Dear List, 1) I wont support any action against someone who distributes OpenOCD binaries linked against FTD2XX as long as there's no viable alternative. When I wrote the OpenOCD the liberties of potential users were paramount, and

Re: [Openocd-development] FT2232 Windows - summary of options

2009-06-23 Thread Zach Welch
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 22:21 +0200, Nico Coesel wrote: [snip] And here is the exact reason why the JTAG vendors are not going to put effort into OpenOCD. A marriage works both ways! The wife wants to cheat on me. What, I'm suppose to just be a cuckold? I know I promised to contribute some

Re: [Openocd-development] License

2009-06-23 Thread Zach Welch
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 23:37 +0200, Øyvind Harboe wrote: You will need to get confirmation from other contributors, as I think the actual revision might be far lower than anyone realizes presently. I started my contributions at svn 214 (or earlier, not easy to see from a cursory look at the

Re: [Openocd-development] License

2009-06-23 Thread Zach Welch
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 21:57 +0100, Spencer Oliver wrote: [snip] GPL is important, but i do not understand people's objections to adding an exception - who exactly is this hurting? Would you like to kick me in the nuts, while saying things like this? The effect would feel little different.

Re: [Openocd-development] OpenOCD and TCP/IP socket server (now Ihave understand GPL)

2009-06-23 Thread Zach Welch
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 00:00 +0200, Nico Coesel wrote: Dear readers, Just a remark about a tcp/ip socket server to get some discussion going in that direction. Isn't there some sort of library available that does all the hard work? Something like SOAP/DCOM/Corba without the typical

Re: [Openocd-development] License

2009-06-23 Thread Zach Welch
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 23:52 +0200, Øyvind Harboe wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Zach Welchz...@superlucidity.net wrote: On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 23:37 +0200, Øyvind Harboe wrote: You will need to get confirmation from other contributors, as I think the actual revision might be far

Re: [Openocd-development] License

2009-06-23 Thread Zach Welch
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 22:02 +, Photo Leecher wrote: Isn't it great that you are against a solution that would put a dent in sales of your overpriced rip off 700€ hardware? Gotta love the impartiality here... Screw impartiality. If this should be a meritocracy, then Øyvind has contributed

Re: [Openocd-development] License

2009-06-23 Thread Zach Welch
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 22:10 +, Photo Leecher wrote: Guess what, OpenOCD wasn't started so YOU can get paid. I do not expect any work to come my way from this. If you don't like the way OpenOCD is managed, get out. Ditto. Oh, wait... who has been helping manage things here? Go away.

Re: [Openocd-development] License

2009-06-23 Thread Zach Welch
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 15:45 -0700, Rick Altherr wrote: On Jun 23, 2009, at 3:05 PM, Zach Welch wrote: On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 21:57 +0100, Spencer Oliver wrote: [snip] GPL is important, but i do not understand people's objections to adding an exception - who exactly

Re: [Openocd-development] License

2009-06-23 Thread Zach Welch
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 00:44 +0200, Michael Schwingen wrote: Photo Leecher wrote: Isn't it great that you are against a solution that would put a dent in sales of your overpriced rip off 700€ hardware? Gotta love the impartiality here... The exception could be allowed now and then removed

Re: [Openocd-development] License

2009-06-23 Thread Zach Welch
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 17:07 -0700, Rick Altherr wrote: But since you bring it up, sunk costs actually more relate to costs of abandoning work that should have been profitable, because conditions change that prevent the profit from being realized (or bigger profits becoming available

Re: [Openocd-development] License

2009-06-23 Thread Zach Welch
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 18:39 -0700, Rick Altherr wrote: On Jun 23, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Zach Welch wrote: On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 17:07 -0700, Rick Altherr wrote: But since you bring it up, sunk costs actually more relate to costs of abandoning work that should have been profitable

Re: [Openocd-development] FT2232 Windows - summary of options

2009-06-22 Thread Zach Welch
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 19:59 +0200, Dominic wrote: Hi List, there has been some speculation about my original intents so I thought I might chime in here. I'm all in favor of enforcing the GPL where it achieves anything for the user. In case of FTD2XX I decided to go the pragmatic

Re: [Openocd-development] OpenOCD, the GPL, and FTD2XX

2009-06-22 Thread Zach Welch
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 01:36 +0300, Yusuf Caglar AKYUZ wrote: Zach Welch wrote: Hi all, I will try to summarize the OpenOCD license situation for the community: - OpenOCD is licensed under the GPL -- without exceptions. - Binaries linking to FTD2XX may NOT be distributed

Re: [Openocd-development] [patch 2/2] openocd.texi - move JIM-Tcl chapter earlier

2009-06-22 Thread Zach Welch
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 14:45 -0700, David Brownell wrote: Move the short chapter about JIM-Tcl earlier, so that we can reasonably assume it's been introduced before we start presenting things that presume such an introduction. Plus a few minor typo-level fixes. --- doc/openocd.texi | 88

Re: [Openocd-development] OpenOCD, the GPL, and FTD2XX

2009-06-22 Thread Zach Welch
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 01:50 +0300, Yusuf Caglar AKYUZ wrote: Zach Welch wrote: On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 01:36 +0300, Yusuf Caglar AKYUZ wrote: Zach Welch wrote: Hi all, I will try to summarize the OpenOCD license situation for the community: - OpenOCD is licensed under the GPL

Re: [Openocd-development] OpenOCD, the GPL, and FTD2XX

2009-06-22 Thread Zach Welch
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 02:31 +0300, Yusuf Caglar AKYUZ wrote: Zach Welch wrote: Actually, I see no reason that it cannot be GPL too. It's only a build tool; it will not be linking to either OpenOCD or FTD2XX, right? The full GPL would prevent others from creating proprietary versions

Re: [Openocd-development] [SERIES 0/4] Whitespace Cleaning

2009-06-22 Thread Zach Welch
On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 21:52 -0700, Zach Welch wrote: The following chain of patch series performs tree-wide whitespace clean-up, using systematic search and replacement (i.e. sed). It must be applied on top of the last series that changes the types. The patches in these series have been

Re: [Openocd-development] [SERIES 0/4] Whitespace Cleaning

2009-06-22 Thread Zach Welch
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 21:24 -0400, Duane Ellis wrote: Zach Welch wrote: There have been no objections to these series of patches, so I intend to regenerate and apply them soon. There is one thing I do not like - not exactly what you are talking about here.. I'd rather my voice

Re: [Openocd-development] Will the next release 0.2.0 build on FTD2XX support?

2009-06-21 Thread Zach Welch
Harald, Thank you for taking the time to participate in this discussion. On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 12:53 +0200, Harald Kipp wrote: Zach Welch wrote: On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 18:26 +0200, Harald Kipp wrote: Dynamic linking to proprietary libraries by adding LoadLibrary and GetProcAddress

Re: [Openocd-development] FT2232 Windows - summary of options

2009-06-21 Thread Zach Welch
On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 11:28 +0200, Freddie Chopin wrote: As no satisfying solution has been decided I will try to summarise the options I think are fine for Windows users. Please - put away your linux windows attitude aside for a moment and do keep in mind three things before proceeding:

Re: [Openocd-development] FT2232 Windows - summary of options

2009-06-21 Thread Zach Welch
On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 13:20 -0700, David Brownell wrote: On Sunday 21 June 2009, Audrius Urmanavičius wrote: I can also second Xiaofan, who offers distribution of .zip file with Cygwin building environment set up, probably with shell script that does `./bootstrap`, `./configure

Re: [Openocd-development] Will the next release 0.2.0 build on FTD2XX support?

2009-06-21 Thread Zach Welch
On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 22:05 +0100, John Devereux wrote: Zach Welch z...@superlucidity.net writes: Harald, Thank you for taking the time to participate in this discussion. On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 12:53 +0200, Harald Kipp wrote: Zach Welch wrote: On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 18:26 +0200

Re: [Openocd-development] FT2232 Windows - summary of options

2009-06-21 Thread Zach Welch
On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 23:15 +0200, Freddie Chopin wrote: Zach Welch pisze: Fix the problems with libusb and libfdti. Period. This is starting to get ridiculous... As I already wrote somewhere - I really would like to, but... I cannot. I'm not a PC programmer, in fact I'm a newbie

Re: [Openocd-development] FT2232 Windows - summary of options

2009-06-21 Thread Zach Welch
On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 17:38 -0400, Duane Ellis wrote: zach Please DO NOT try to cheat the GPL license. You do not understand how zach far I am willing to take these matters, and I believe any form of binary zach distribution to be a violation: a DLL wrapper, a binary patch, anything! Let

Re: [Openocd-development] FT2232 Windows - summary of options

2009-06-21 Thread Zach Welch
On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 18:33 -0400, Duane Ellis wrote: zach I am afraid that your intent will not matter even one iota, in a court of law. This is not, and was not ever my intent, I am speaking of what I see as the original authors GPL+[undocumented]-exception intention. zach If you want

Re: [Openocd-development] Will the next release 0.2.0 build on FTD2XX support?

2009-06-20 Thread Zach Welch
On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 14:24 +0200, Michael Schwingen wrote: Michael Fischer wrote: The instruction can be found here, and use libftdi and libftd2xx: http://forum.sparkfun.com/viewtopic.php?t=11221 But the problem is that the normal user want to have a working solution and do not / can

Re: [Openocd-development] Will the next release 0.2.0 build on FTD2XX support?

2009-06-20 Thread Zach Welch
On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 20:05 +0200, Michael Schwingen wrote: Zach Welch wrote: BTW: one possible solution for 64-bit windows would be to ship an openocd appliance - ie. a VM image containing a minimal linux system together with openocd libraries. Users would need to install VMware

Re: [Openocd-development] SVN comit -

2009-06-20 Thread Zach Welch
On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 23:35 -0400, Duane Ellis wrote: Commits - r2296 - through 2347 - are commits that fix printf() -Werrors so that Cygwin will build. These where done (for the most part) as one file per commit so that if a specific issue arises, it can be reverted. This is a *nasty*

Re: [Openocd-development] [patch] resume command is broken

2009-06-20 Thread Zach Welch
On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 07:08 +0300, Oleksandr Tymoshenko wrote: Resume command works only if resume address is provided. Attached patch fixes this problem Thanks for catching this; sorry for breaking it during my cleanup. Committed, r2348. --Z ___

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