Re: [Opensim-dev] Removal of project on GForge

2009-06-01 Thread Thomas Grimshaw
Message- From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev- boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Fly Man Sent: Sunday, 31 May 2009 7:54 PM To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Removal of project on GForge Well, I can keep repeating myself but I won't

Re: [Opensim-dev] Removal of project on GForge

2009-06-01 Thread Fly Man
Message- From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev- boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Fly Man Sent: Sunday, 31 May 2009 7:54 PM To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Removal of project on GForge Well, I can keep repeating myself but I won't

Re: [Opensim-dev] Removal of project on GForge

2009-06-01 Thread Colin B. Withers
[fly.man.open...@gmail.com] Sent: 01 June 2009 13:35 To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Removal of project on GForge Thomas, The dispute has everything to do with OpenSim in general and not only with those 2 people. As it's not only OpenSimWiredux but the Search, Profile and Email

[Opensim-dev] Removal of project on GForge

2009-05-31 Thread Fly Man
Goodmorning everyone, As a result of argument between Nebadon, Jamenai and myself about OpenWiredux I decided to step down as a developer on that project. Also the other projects that I maintain have seized development. Please remove the following projects from the Gforge asap as they'll be

Re: [Opensim-dev] Removal of project on GForge

2009-05-31 Thread Mike Dickson
I'm only using the WiRedux stuff of the modules you listed personally. But I don't think the BSD license works the way you think it does. Attribution is certainly required by the license and no reason you couldn't do a closed source version based on it. But what you put out under a BSD license is

Re: [Opensim-dev] Removal of project on GForge

2009-05-31 Thread Kyle Hamilton
Once you release something under the BSD license, anyone can do anything with it, as long as the license is followed (i.e., the copyright clause is followed). It cannot be retroactively removed. Further, anything on the Forge, in the subversion, is openly available. You can continue your

Re: [Opensim-dev] Removal of project on GForge

2009-05-31 Thread Thomas Grimshaw
Fly Man, It simply doesn't work like that. You didn't make any mention of a creative commons license at the time of posting. The projects have been clearly tagged as BSD, i'm afraid there's no way for you to revoke that. Tom. Fly Man wrote: Thomas, everything I posted on the Gforge is under

Re: [Opensim-dev] Removal of project on GForge

2009-05-31 Thread Charles Krinke
deleted. But each project determines what survives and is deleted. Usually for reasons of obsolescence. Charles From: Kyle Hamilton aerow...@gmail.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 2:27:23 PM Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Removal

Re: [Opensim-dev] Removal of project on GForge

2009-05-31 Thread Fly Man
Well, there is a way to revoke that and that has just been done. The projects are closed. In the meanwhile, development has seized on those projects (which I personally think is just wrong because this can be solved by 2 people) I clearly stated to people that I wasn't happy about the way some

Re: [Opensim-dev] Removal of project on GForge

2009-05-31 Thread Ideia Boa
Fly-Man I do not know who is right in your disagreement, but I think if you had something you were thinking that was not being done in the most correct, I think the only way would have launched the discussion on mail-list #opensim-dev and not just you away from everything and remove the work

Re: [Opensim-dev] Removal of project on GForge

2009-05-31 Thread Fly Man
Ideia, this problem can easily be resolved by 2 people that just say sorry and revert back the things that they added to the OpenSimWiredux so I can take a clean copy of the code without the whole mess that it is now. So, in other words as some won't know what I said on #opensim-dev: Jamenai:

Re: [Opensim-dev] Removal of project on GForge

2009-05-31 Thread Kyle Hamilton
How about you check out the subversion tree at the last revision without the whole mess that it is now? That's what revision control systems are for, so you can check out old revisions. You can control your own experience -- while everyone else can cooperate as they want to. You should do this

Re: [Opensim-dev] Removal of project on GForge

2009-05-31 Thread Fly Man
Kyle, please read back what I posted earlier before you start to throw with words that I won't respond to: * There's 2 people that just need to apoligize and then we can all get back to what we're good in. Unless those people step up and take responsibilty about their actions, then it means that

Re: [Opensim-dev] Removal of project on GForge

2009-05-31 Thread Robert Dzikowski
Kyle Hamilton wrote: How about you check out the subversion tree at the last revision without the whole mess that it is now? That's what revision control systems are for, so you can check out old revisions. You can control your own experience -- while everyone else can cooperate as they want

Re: [Opensim-dev] Removal of project on GForge

2009-05-31 Thread Charles Krinke
From: Fly Man fly.man.open...@gmail.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 5:53:35 PM Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Removal of project on GForge Kyle, please read back what I posted earlier before you start to throw with words that I won't

Re: [Opensim-dev] Removal of project on GForge

2009-05-31 Thread Frisby, Adam
-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev- boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Fly Man Sent: Sunday, 31 May 2009 7:54 PM To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Removal of project on GForge Well, I can keep repeating myself but I won't ... If the 2 people