Re: [Opensim-dev] Proposal for a cleanup/correction of the region-module system

2009-01-25 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
Homer Horwitz wrote: On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Justin Clark-Casey jjusti...@googlemail.com wrote: Could you wait a couple more days on this? I don't really have the opportunity to give this the attention that it deserves today (Sunday) and I may not be around at all tomorrow but I

Re: [Opensim-dev] mantis resolved vs. closed

2009-01-27 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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Re: [Opensim-dev] TSB Feasibility Study: Online Virtual Worlds for Urban Regeneration Consultation

2009-01-27 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
to work with open source and open source communities is essential. You also want them to have basic database skills too. -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https

Re: [Opensim-dev] Source tree cleanup

2009-01-27 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
to be active (e.g. if someone is currently using it) then t would be cleaner to just delete it since it can still be retrieved from older SVN revisions if necessary. -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com ___ Opensim-dev mailing list

Re: [Opensim-dev] Proposal for a cleanup/correction of the region-module system

2009-01-28 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
on an IBM product called WebSphere Product Center so I think that there should be some payback :) (an Init() compromise is fine though, I guess. Bring back the Empire, I say). -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com ___ Opensim-dev

Re: [Opensim-dev] proposal: cleanup and break up region modules

2009-01-29 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
of increasing build times (I admit that I may be paranoid on this point and there might be ways to fix this via nant changes). It will also increase the effort required for refactoring existing code into modules, since creating a new project takes more time. -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http

Re: [Opensim-dev] proposal: cleanup and break up region modules

2009-01-29 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
Sean Dague wrote: Justin Clark-Casey wrote: Sean Dague wrote: MW wrote: Putting aside the optimisations for now, as I think that is a different question. As if we are going to have a dynamic module system then those issues come with it. While I think having every module in a separate dll

Re: [Opensim-dev] AssetBase and metadata

2009-01-29 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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Re: [Opensim-dev] osFunction Threat levels

2009-01-30 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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Re: [Opensim-dev] osFunction Threat levels

2009-01-30 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
Justin Clark-Casey wrote: Paul Fishwick wrote: This looks nice - especially the Examples column so people can get an idea how to use them. As a related question: is there a way to enable groups in opensim, since this would also be a good way to restrict the running of scripts, or even

Re: [Opensim-dev] asset_database = local or grid?

2009-02-01 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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Re: [Opensim-dev] point of no return

2009-02-01 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
with custom stuff on user creation. -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev

Re: [Opensim-dev] RegionOnline status

2009-02-01 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
core developers. On the surface a RESERVED state doesn't seem unreasonable to me. Perhaps the nicest thing to do would be to make such code modular so that people are free to implement different strategies for grid organization. -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com

Re: [Opensim-dev] Proposal for a cleanup/correction of the region-module system

2009-02-01 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
modules)... Thanks for all the contributions :-) Any last comments? Go Homer! Cheers, Homer ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev -- justincc Justin Clark

Re: [Opensim-dev] RegionOnline status

2009-02-02 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
Sean Dague wrote: Justin Clark-Casey wrote: Frank Nichols wrote: There is a member in RegionProfileData (regionOnline) which is currently not used and does not exist in the region db table. I would like to add it to the region table as an enum and not a boolean. Currently the code assumes

Re: [Opensim-dev] asset_database = local or grid?

2009-02-03 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
. */Justin Clark-Casey jjusti...@googlemail.com/* wrote: Stefan Andersson wrote: I believe the general concensus was to support all three (four?) asset server configs (internal, local, grid, hg(?)) but refactor the code paths. Could you give a mailing list reference

Re: [Opensim-dev] asset_database = local or grid?

2009-02-04 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
which would not be desirable to be shared with a grid asset server, such as proprietary scripts or textures/sounds/etc with restricted licensing. On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 5:42 AM, Justin Clark-Casey jjusti...@googlemail.com mailto:jjusti...@googlemail.com wrote: Stefan Andersson wrote

[Opensim-dev] Organization and naming patterns of commands on the console

2009-02-04 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
every module command with the same word (e.g. terrain fill or region oar load). -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev

Re: [Opensim-dev] Organization and naming patterns of commands on the console

2009-02-05 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
, just now it just comes back to the prompt. A little acknowledgement that the command is not recognized would be nice. I agree. Unfortunately, there is again quite a bit of messiness in the code that prevent this being easily done right now. -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http

Re: [Opensim-dev] what are the core region modules? which are not?

2009-02-09 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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Re: [Opensim-dev] Older region databases incompatible with the latest SVN

2009-02-10 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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Re: [Opensim-dev] Avatar movement packet optimization

2009-02-11 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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Re: [Opensim-dev] Avatar movement packet optimization

2009-02-13 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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Re: [Opensim-dev] Avatar movement packet optimization

2009-02-13 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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Re: [Opensim-dev] Please do not revert fixes without careful comtemplation

2009-02-13 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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Re: [Opensim-dev] Groups in OpenSim

2009-02-13 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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Re: [Opensim-dev] Groups in OpenSim

2009-02-15 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
been working on group chat infrastructure and this could cause conflict unless it's developed in an open manner. On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Justin Clark-Casey jjusti...@googlemail.com mailto:jjusti...@googlemail.com wrote: Frisby, Adam wrote: Yep, Mike here has graciously

Re: [Opensim-dev] Groups in OpenSim

2009-02-15 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
at 12:43 PM, Justin Clark-Casey jjusti...@googlemail.com mailto:jjusti...@googlemail.com wrote: Frisby, Adam wrote: Yep, Mike here has graciously offered to have us develop it for the public domain. With a little luck we should be starting this one soon, along with some other features

Re: [Opensim-dev] Please do not revert fixes without careful comtemplation

2009-02-16 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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Re: [Opensim-dev] [Opensim-commits] r8467 - trunk/OpenSim/Data/MySQL/Resources

2009-02-17 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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Re: [Opensim-dev] oddities with asset storage

2009-02-18 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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Re: [Opensim-dev] [Opensim-commits] r8496 - in trunk/OpenSim/Region: CoreModules/Avatar/InstantMessage Framework/Interfaces

2009-02-19 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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Re: [Opensim-dev] [Opensim-commits] r8496 - in trunk/OpenSim/Region: CoreModules/Avatar/InstantMessage Framework/Interfaces

2009-02-19 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
? The point is to reduce implementing a new event to adding 2 lines, rather than 20. This intrigues me, I'm going to try that :) Sounds like a good thing to explore :) Melanie Justin Clark-Casey wrote: m...@opensimulator.org wrote: Author: mw Date: 2009-02-19 04:38:17 -0800 (Thu, 19

Re: [Opensim-dev] MXPClient?

2009-02-22 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
committers increasingly end up only being done on MySQL. -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev

Re: [Opensim-dev] User Authentication

2009-02-25 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
by pinging the client using the StartPingCheck. A client spoofing the address will not be able to reply. -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de

Re: [Opensim-dev] Thoughts on performance with a profiler

2009-02-25 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
before the previously client had finished with it. This generated very difficult to find bugs. Melanie ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev -- justincc Justin Clark

Re: [Opensim-dev] User Authentication

2009-02-25 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
Diva Canto wrote: Justin Clark-Casey wrote: Just so I'm clear, your new scheme proposes the following steps? 1) When a client enters a new region (whether by initial login, teleport or region crossing), the region server will ask the user server if the IP given by the client matches

Re: [Opensim-dev] User Authentication

2009-02-25 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
Of Justin Clark-Casey Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:18 AM To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] User Authentication Diva Canto wrote: Mike Mazur wrote: Hi, On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:54:16 -0800 Diva Canto d...@metaverseink.com wrote: * Within

Re: [Opensim-dev] User Authentication

2009-02-26 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
Diva Canto wrote: Justin Clark-Casey wrote: I must admit, I'm surprised that the spoofer can receive the packet at all if it's being sent to the IP given (the spoofed one). But I shall bow to those with superior raw sockets knowledge than myself The spoofer can't receive the packet

Re: [Opensim-dev] Comms Manager

2009-02-26 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
with what regions it wanted, so would still need the Scene.RegisterModule() interface for them. --- On *Thu, 26/2/09, Justin Clark-Casey /jjusti...@googlemail.com/* wrote: From: Justin Clark-Casey jjusti...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Comms Manager To: opensim-dev

Re: [Opensim-dev] Authentication, take 2: Capabilities

2009-02-26 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
the LL servers from the libomv end and from everyone else who knows about these things. ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http

Re: [Opensim-dev] Removing the NPC and Test Clients from core

2009-02-26 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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Re: [Opensim-dev] Estate export

2009-03-03 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-06 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-06 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-10 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
. Just trying to avoid having to have users keep their modifications in a monolithic .ini file. Jeff ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey

[Opensim-dev] Moving the OpenSim office hour to 1800 UTC for the summer

2009-03-10 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
starting from 31st March. This means that in much of Europe and the US (in three weeks) we'll end up back at the same local meeting time. As usual, alternative time proposals are welcome. Regards, -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com

Re: [Opensim-dev] Moving Archive code into Framework

2009-03-11 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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[Opensim-dev] Preview split up of OpenSim.ini.example now in bin/config.preview.donotuseyet

2009-03-11 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
by OpenSim in addition to bin/OpenSim.ini Please tell me what you think. Expressions of agreement are as welcome as constructive criticism. This restructuring is largely unrelated to other --inimaster, etc. discussions. -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com

[Opensim-dev] Round 2: Config changes preview

2009-03-13 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
to the --inimaster idea, so it should be possible to set everything via the network if desired.). -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo

[Opensim-dev] Withdrawing preview config changes for now

2009-03-17 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
with it then please feel free. If nobody does then I may revisit the topic some time later on. -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim

Re: [Opensim-dev] Profiling complex scenes

2009-03-18 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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Re: [Opensim-dev] Withdrawing preview config changes for now

2009-03-18 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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Re: [Opensim-dev] Withdrawing preview config changes for now

2009-03-18 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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Re: [Opensim-dev] Update LibOMV

2009-03-18 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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Re: [Opensim-dev] Profiling complex scenes

2009-03-18 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
to resolve this has been considerably bumped up. ~Dan -Original Message- From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Justin Clark-Casey Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:29 AM To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim

Re: [Opensim-dev] Profiling complex scenes

2009-03-19 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
on the mantis. Dan lake Network Software Engineer Network Technology Lab Corporate Technology Group 503.712.8318 dan.l...@intel.com -Original Message- From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Justin Clark-Casey

Re: [Opensim-dev] function libraries for script engine

2009-03-24 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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Re: [Opensim-dev] Keeping track of deployed oar files

2009-03-26 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
this field would be called or whether it could be one that wasn't tightly tied to archive information (since the vast majority of regions don't come from archives). -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com ___ Opensim-dev mailing list

[Opensim-dev] RFC: Ways of creating profiles for creators who will never log in

2009-03-26 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
for reference. Comments? -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev

Re: [Opensim-dev] [Opensim-users] This will NEVER go away

2009-04-03 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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Re: [Opensim-dev] Export avatar shape to OBJ format??

2009-04-10 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
file. I believe you can only export the shape if you're the creator. -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev

Re: [Opensim-dev] Migration SQL invalid causing server to fail to start

2009-04-10 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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[Opensim-dev] Supplying IScene instead of Scene for the future region modules mechanism

2009-04-14 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
implemented by Scene. It strikes me that it's going to be more convenient to do this when we introduce the new system than as a separate change. Thoughts? -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com ___ Opensim-dev mailing list

Re: [Opensim-dev] Supplying IScene instead of Scene for the future region modules mechanism

2009-04-14 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
introduce the new system than as a separate change. Thoughts? -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev

Re: [Opensim-dev] The essence of grid

2009-04-15 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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Re: [Opensim-dev] Supplying IScene instead of Scene for the future region modules mechanism

2009-04-15 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
faith, not to shout at each other across the mailing lists. -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev

Re: [Opensim-dev] The essence of grid

2009-04-15 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
that this maturity is all that imminent. Anyway, I'm probably putting words into Diva's mouth now. Charles *From:* Justin Clark-Casey jjusti...@googlemail.com *To:* opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de *Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:24

Re: [Opensim-dev] Supplying IScene instead of Scene for the future region modules mechanism

2009-04-15 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
the other person's point of view. Melanie Justin Clark-Casey wrote: Sean Dague wrote: Melanie wrote: Hi, as a mid to long range goal, +1, actually. but in the short run, the ability to load and unload regions is blocked by the existing module API, and to fix this basic piece

Re: [Opensim-dev] Supplying IScene instead of Scene for the future region modules mechanism

2009-04-15 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
. Alright, I will try to factor that in. I would also appreciate it if you could try to rein that in a bit - communication purely via text is already difficult enough. Melanie Justin Clark-Casey wrote: Melanie wrote: Looks like you didn't read my post. I said, as a mid to long range goal

Re: [Opensim-dev] The essence of grid

2009-04-17 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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Re: [Opensim-dev] Development models (was Re: The essence of grid)

2009-04-17 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
and evolves is equally if not more important (to me at least). Just my 2 cents. Mike On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 15:35 +, Justin Clark-Casey wrote: But I do have to also point out that OpenSim development is largely driven by the interest of the developers (since there's no single company behind

Re: [Opensim-dev] Development models

2009-04-17 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
: Justin Clark-Casey jjusti...@googlemail.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Date: 04/17/2009 01:56 PM Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Development models Mike Dickson wrote: Well, I know what I've

Re: [Opensim-dev] http://builds.opensimulator.org/

2009-04-27 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
don't know of any immediate plans to reactivate it. To be honest, I think we're coming to the stage where it's better to rely on release builds than to follow trunk since the majority of the major expected functionality has been implemented. -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http

Re: [Opensim-dev] Standardizing OpenSim data formats

2009-04-29 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
on grids other than the one on which the archive was saved. -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev

Re: [Opensim-dev] moving away from grid vs. standalone

2009-04-30 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
coding again. However, it will require a strong personality who is prepared to revert code in the rc period, and I think that this process would require the consent of all the core developers. -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com

Re: [Opensim-dev] moving away from grid vs. standalone

2009-04-30 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
that holding up progress for a week to produce a release would have much the same effect). Also, I would say that large scale breakage lasting longer than a day or so also significantly decreases the benefit of continuous integration. -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com

Re: [Opensim-dev] moving away from grid vs. standalone

2009-04-30 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
d...@metaverseink.com wrote: Justin Clark-Casey wrote: I like this generally but I do have the following comments. 1. I'm not a huge fan of this since, like Stefan, I'd ideally like it to be possible to package an OpenSim that supports only a single architecture, with no trace of other

Re: [Opensim-dev] Standardizing OpenSim data formats

2009-04-30 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
about (as opposed to extensions to a single object serialization). Inserting mime type metadata in files is a solution that sounds good to me. -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev

Re: [Opensim-dev] [Opensim-commits] r9396 - in trunk/OpenSim: Framework Framework/Communications/Cache Region/CoreModules/Agent/TextureSender Region/CoreModules/Avatar/Inventory/Archiver

2009-05-05 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
variables and properties (in addition to some other issues). They will be changed back to properties today. Regards, -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https

[Opensim-dev] VERY IMPORTANT: runprebuild and a clean build are necessary after r9440

2009-05-07 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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Re: [Opensim-dev] [Proposal] New software architecture

2009-05-22 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
d...@metaverseink.com wrote: Thank you Justin. I added your suggestions to the page. Wasn't sure about the closing date, so I just made it up. Justin Clark-Casey wrote: 3. Are the details of the protocol between client and server side really invisible to the service clients? The awkward

Re: [Opensim-dev] Memory cache

2009-05-27 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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[Opensim-dev] Difference between functionality in new OGS Radmin module and existing RAdmin?

2009-05-31 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
Adam, what's the difference between these two modules? On casual inspection, the gridwide notification in OGSRadmin looks pretty similar to the existing RemoteAdminPlugin.XmlRpcAlertMethod() -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com

Re: [Opensim-dev] Idea on the opensim.ini file

2009-06-08 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
OpenSim standalone. -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev

[Opensim-dev] RFC/Proposal: Explicitly serializing SOP rather than relying on .NET automatic serialization.

2009-06-09 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
changes to existing elements will require a region simulator upgrade and these should be rare. Comments? -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman

Re: [Opensim-dev] RFC/Proposal: Explicitly serializing SOP rather than relying on .NET automatic serialization.

2009-06-09 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev- boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Justin Clark-Casey Sent: Tuesday, 9 June 2009 9:04 AM To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: [Opensim-dev] RFC/Proposal: Explicitly serializing SOP rather than relying on .NET automatic serialization

Re: [Opensim-dev] Shaping the user services

2009-06-23 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
it this way? -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev

Re: [Opensim-dev] explanation of services

2009-06-30 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
. Well, a peer to peer relationship between Grids _and_ StandAlones (or Standalone Grids as Diva likes to call them :) -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https

Re: [Opensim-dev] Adding virtual to many methods on Region/Framework/* for experimentation

2009-07-02 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
)); +writer.WriteElementString(A, col.A.ToString(Utils.EnUsCulture)); +writer.WriteEndElement(); +} } } -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https

Re: [Opensim-dev] Deprecate OpenSim.Grid.InventoryServer and OpenSim.Grid.AssetServer?

2009-07-08 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
votes on specific proposals. I'm actually now confused on whether you're asking for a vote on eventually deprecating the old servers (but not before another vote) or on changing basic grid protocols. I assume it is the former rather than the latter. -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http

Re: [Opensim-dev] Deprecate OpenSim.Grid.InventoryServer and OpenSim.Grid.AssetServer?

2009-07-08 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
to generalizing the OpenSim grid servers. Perhaps they were not meant to be mixed up in this. Melanie Justin Clark-Casey wrote: Mike Dickson wrote: On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 14:48 +, Melanie wrote: Charles, I said documentation is on it's way. I would like to get people's opinions

[Opensim-dev] Minimum OpenSim mono version now 2.4? (was Re: [Opensim-commits] r10113 - trunk)

2009-08-03 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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[Opensim-dev] Migrating opensim-libs to git

2009-08-04 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
afaics, this is still on Subversion. Any plans to also migrate this to git, Sean? -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim

Re: [Opensim-dev] Minimum OpenSim mono version now 2.4? (was Re: [Opensim-commits] r10113 - trunk)

2009-08-05 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
on it. A side note, I'm also seeing some pretty flat memory usage trends since our libomv update. Thanks! BlueWall On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Justin Clark-Casey jjusti...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Teravus. I take it this means that mono 2.0.1 is no longer usable with trunk

Re: [Opensim-dev] ScenePresence.FlyDisabled property

2009-08-06 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
I'm thinking, I'd prefer to reuse it to keep the code from complexity bloat. Let me know :) Teravus ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev -- justincc Justin Clark

Re: [Opensim-dev] ScenePresence.FlyDisabled property

2009-08-06 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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Re: [Opensim-dev] [Opensim-commits] [SCM] OpenSim Git Master Repository branch, master, updated. ea940d98f91b65e0fdc0619bc4e421d506813870

2009-08-07 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
us to fixed serialization formats and stop this stuff being pluggable. -- justincc Justin Clark-Casey http://justincc.wordpress.com ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev

[Opensim-dev] Appropriate place for scene obejct serialization calls? (was Re ... ea940d98f91b65e0fdc0619bc4e421d506813870)

2009-08-11 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
serializations. I was hoping to do this my opportunity tanks have been dry for a while. But would such an arrangement still cause a problem for your calling code? Justin Clark-Casey wrote: d...@pinky.opensimulator.org wrote: - Log

Re: [Opensim-dev] custom scene data (Re: [Proposal] Separate SceneObjectGroup/Part into separate classes/interfaces)

2009-08-14 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
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