[Opensim-dev] 0.6.2-post-fixes

2009-01-20 Thread Stefan Andersson
I just copied the 0.6.2-release tag to /branches/0.6.2-post-fixes. Please inform me of stabilizing fixes that's gone/going in after the 0.6.2 tag, either by e-mail or by assigning mantises to 'lbsa71'.Best regards,Stefan AnderssonTribal Media AB Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 09:41:58 -0800From:

Re: [Opensim-dev] Hooking in Scene.EventManager

2009-01-21 Thread Stefan Andersson
One might add that if you want to hook into grabs of a small set of specific objects, you should probably look into patching the sceneobjects up with event hooks, and then use those. There _are_ OnGrab functions, but afaik there's no events firing in them, which there should be, really.Best

Re: [Opensim-dev] Proposal for a cleanup/correction of the region-module system

2009-01-25 Thread Stefan Andersson
Ok, so I suggest we establish an 0.7 roadmap page. With that one as a 'definite', not a 'discussion'.Best regards,Stefan AnderssonTribal Media AB Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:27:29 -0500 From: sda...@gmail.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Proposal for a

[Opensim-dev] Proposal: Removal of the Data Framework

2009-01-26 Thread Stefan Andersson
As I understand it, we have no longer anything actually using the Data Mapper Framework introduced as a proposed alterantive to NHibernate a year ago. I propose we now retire that piece of code. These are the projects that will be removed: * OpenSim.Data.MySQLMapper *

Re: [Opensim-dev] Proposal: Killing off AvatarFactory

2009-01-26 Thread Stefan Andersson
solution.Also I think the process should even a more general, start modularising the whole of the CommsManager.But not sure anyone is going to be able to give a +1 or -1 on any idea before Jan 2 2009 ;)Stefan Andersson ste...@tribalmedia.se wrote: It's kind of crazy that we have a RegionModule

Re: [Opensim-dev] proposal: cleanup and break up region modules

2009-01-29 Thread Stefan Andersson
I think that some confusion stems from the fact that it's a difference between referencing the assembly, and dynamically instancing classes out of it. If you reference classes directly, as in mything = new Thing(); where thing could be a module, albeit _referenced_, not _loaded_ is a

Re: [Opensim-dev] asset_database = local or grid?

2009-02-01 Thread Stefan Andersson
I believe the general concensus was to support all three (four?) asset server configs (internal, local, grid, hg(?)) but refactor the code paths. While I do understand the confusion, I have already shown how we could re-arrange the services so that we get a uniform set of interfaces -

Re: [Opensim-dev] AssetBase and metadata

2009-02-02 Thread Stefan Andersson
Teravus On 2/2/09, Stefan Andersson ste...@tribalmedia.se wrote: Are we sure all assets have inventory items associated with them? I can think of scripted objects that set textureIds programatically. (Melanie pointed that out to me) You can also have the case where you upload a texture (yes

Re: [Opensim-dev] Organization and naming patterns of commands on the console

2009-02-05 Thread Stefan Andersson
wonder if it's something OpenSim could control? On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Stefan Andersson ste...@tribalmedia.se wrote: Just chipping in my 2c: How about the modules are supposed to register the 'command' whatever that is, but that the 'command' can include spaces? So, create user should

[Opensim-dev] Refactoring the backend codepaths

2009-02-12 Thread Stefan Andersson
is RegionProfileData marked as Serializable - what is serializing it? Thank you for your time, effort, support and understanding. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https

Re: [Opensim-dev] Avatar movement packet optimization

2009-02-13 Thread Stefan Andersson
I do agree with you. I think that the important thing here is that the patch creator and applier both think carefully about the situation when private members are being made protected. Of course. One advantage of private members is that they tend to make debugging and reasoning

Re: [Opensim-dev] [Opensim-users] User Server issues with 8236

2009-02-13 Thread Stefan Andersson
is a foreach(plugin) over an empty plugin set, nothing happens. Usually, a clean checkout, rebuild and copying over only of data files will remedy the whole thing. Make sure not to copy over into an old directory - a total wipe and rebuild is necessary. Best regards, Stefan Andersson

[Opensim-dev] Let's post-tag 0.6.3 [Was: some instability ahead r8399+]

2009-02-16 Thread Stefan Andersson
be considered your best bet. Let's do that ASAP. Is there a good 0.6.3 candidate rev? Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:31:39 -0800 From: aerow...@gmail.com To: opensim-us...@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] some instability ahead r8399

Re: [Opensim-dev] Setting default locale for opensim processes

2009-02-17 Thread Stefan Andersson
Yes. It will probably also have to be set on each new spawned thread. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 23:42:28 +0200 From: tommi.s.e.laukka...@gmail.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: [Opensim-dev] Setting default locale for opensim

Re: [Opensim-dev] Proposal for a cleanup/correction of the region-module system

2009-02-17 Thread Stefan Andersson
IConfigBridge.GetConfigSourceName(); Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB From: a...@deepthink.com.au To: homer.horw...@gmail.com; opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:37:01 -0500 Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Proposal for a cleanup/correction of the region-module system One other

Re: [Opensim-dev] Hypergrid and Interoperability workshop

2009-02-17 Thread Stefan Andersson
Diva, sorry I couldn't attend this meeting; however, I would be able to attend one this friday, 20th if you are going to host one? Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:58:09 -0800 From: lo...@ics.uci.edu To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject

Re: [Opensim-dev] Please do not revert fixes without careful comtemplation

2009-02-17 Thread Stefan Andersson
1. We have a significant number of assets whose name is blank that are created with a default constructor. And I suspect are never accessible. In fact, this field has always seemed redundant to me since the user only ever manipulates assets by their inventory name, which is

Re: [Opensim-dev] Blockers for unit testing physics modules

2009-02-17 Thread Stefan Andersson
I just committed a fix to actually honour the 'path' in Nant and vs2005/8 targets, something that was actually not done. (Bloody hell, we need to get back to upstream prebuild.) I believe you should be able to do this now. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Tue, 17

Re: [Opensim-dev] oddities with asset storage

2009-02-18 Thread Stefan Andersson
maps', 'photos', 'region map images', 'script sources', 'sounds', 'prims in inventory', 'notecards', 'animations' - my point being that we can probably implement various configurable strategies for each of them, linden viewer or no linden viewer. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB

Re: [Opensim-dev] oddities with asset storage

2009-02-18 Thread Stefan Andersson
I suggest we talk more about complementary and parallell scenarios and strategies, and less about either/or - this is a platform, and various implemetations will prioritize differently. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:02:38 +0100 From: dirk.kra

[Opensim-dev] Heads Up: Updating Prebuild to Upstream

2009-02-18 Thread Stefan Andersson
on the forge?) Since the code hasn't changed that much, I believe we should simply go ahead and do the switch, and if any cross-environment breakage would happen, work together to solve it. So please help us troubleshoot Prebuild on your environment. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal

Re: [Opensim-dev] oddities with asset storage

2009-02-19 Thread Stefan Andersson
Initiatives like this is why I'm a hardcore proponent of keeping the services encapsulated, indirected, modular and flexible, ie, not tie core to any given technology or assumptions about data storage configuration. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10

Re: [Opensim-dev] Heads Up: Updating Prebuild to Upstream

2009-02-19 Thread Stefan Andersson
, ICollection - IList (this means Prebuild can generate 1.1 solutions, but can't itself be built under 1.1 - how very meta) * Added ?include file=sub_prebuild.xml ? preprocessor directive. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB From: ste...@tribalmedia.se To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de

Re: [Opensim-dev] oddities with asset storage

2009-02-19 Thread Stefan Andersson
discuss, that case has to be one of the supported ones. That said, optionality and configuration is (as in, should be) our forte. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:40:14 +0100 From: dirk.kra...@pixelpark.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject

Re: [Opensim-dev] oddities with asset storage

2009-02-20 Thread Stefan Andersson
i thought the reasoning goes also the other way around: if someone has a use case where they'd benefit from using Tahoe with OpenSim, they are free to do it if it doesn't give much benefit for OpenSim otherwise, that doesn't matter, as long as people who want to use it can,

Re: [Opensim-dev] Refactoring IClientAPI.Close and Friends

2009-02-22 Thread Stefan Andersson
probably the one to introduce it. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB From: a...@deepthink.com.au To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 02:21:05 -0500 Subject: [Opensim-dev] Refactoring IClientAPI.Close and Friends Right now, we have four separate close

Re: [Opensim-dev] ProcessInPacket - Can this be moved out of IClientAPI?

2009-02-22 Thread Stefan Andersson
+1, does seem like an archaic remnant. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 11:39:18 + From: mela...@t-data.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] ProcessInPacket - Can this be moved out of IClientAPI? I guess originally

Re: [Opensim-dev] SVN 8571

2009-02-23 Thread Stefan Andersson
Not really knowing what I'm talking about, but; we still don't handle inventory versioning correctly, so maybe it's as simple as that? Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 22:32:00 + From: mela...@t-data.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject

Re: [Opensim-dev] MXPClient?

2009-02-23 Thread Stefan Andersson
Not that I would champion it, but X3D should be mentioned, I guess. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:36:33 +0200 From: ant...@kyperjokki.fi To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] MXPClient? Frisby, Adam kirjoitti: Croquet

[Opensim-dev] Prebuild fix: Solutions Folder

2009-02-23 Thread Stefan Andersson
I believe that rev 8581 fixes the annoying Solutions folder thingy for express versions of visual studio. As I don't have express myself, I can't test it, so please report back with findings. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB

Re: [Opensim-dev] User Authentication

2009-02-24 Thread Stefan Andersson
worked well for us and our clients. Most of the code for these options are actually already out there in various scattered projects. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:31:25 -0800 From: d...@metaverseink.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re

Re: [Opensim-dev] User Authentication

2009-02-25 Thread Stefan Andersson
project for a cross-platform viewer launcher project, bsd licensed so it can be applied and repackaged as needed. We would gladly contribute to such a project. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:13:48 + From: mela...@t-data.com To: opensim-dev

[Opensim-dev] 0.7_Release_Target_Discussion

2009-02-25 Thread Stefan Andersson
, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev

Re: [Opensim-dev] Comms Manager

2009-02-25 Thread Stefan Andersson
simple, given mono addins handles it, which I would be surprised and disappointed if it didn't. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:43:10 + From: michaelwr...@yahoo.co.uk To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: [Opensim-dev] Comms Manager

Re: [Opensim-dev] DNCH (Re: User Authentication)

2009-02-25 Thread Stefan Andersson
Hooray for Diva. I have considered blackhatting myself to give ourselves a wakeup call. (I blogged about this) Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:32:11 -0800 From: d...@metaverseink.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: [Opensim-dev] DNCH

Re: [Opensim-dev] Comms Manager

2009-02-26 Thread Stefan Andersson
StreamHandlers, so they can be freely moved between StreamHandler protocol hosts. (aka http servers or what-have-you) Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB PS Lots of cool stuff and good discussions going on now, let's keep up the momentum! DS. Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 04:33:59 +

Re: [Opensim-dev] Comms Manager

2009-02-26 Thread Stefan Andersson
, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB From: a...@deepthink.com.au To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de; michaelwr...@yahoo.co.uk Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 05:21:48 -0500 Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Comms Manager Do we need the comms manager? Can’t we just register them individually via

Re: [Opensim-dev] Comms Manager

2009-02-26 Thread Stefan Andersson
+1, looks good. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:38:52 + From: mela...@t-data.com To: michaelwr...@yahoo.co.uk; opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Comms Manager Well, I wanted to remove that extra step in the global

Re: [Opensim-dev] Comms Manager

2009-02-26 Thread Stefan Andersson
I'm actually with Melanie on this; using the call-back registration and event attachment seems so much flexible and cleaner - and more in line with where the region modules have been taking us. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:56:31 + From

Re: [Opensim-dev] Comms Manager

2009-02-26 Thread Stefan Andersson
(); OnSceneRemoved(); } Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:15:18 + From: michaelwr...@yahoo.co.uk To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Comms Manager I still question if Global modules (that are really providing global

Re: [Opensim-dev] Authentication, take 2: Capabilities

2009-02-27 Thread Stefan Andersson
of modules) hook onto any established http server, probably by wrapping them into streamhandlers) Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:11:21 -0800 From: d...@metaverseink.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Authentication, take 2

Re: [Opensim-dev] Removing the NPC and Test Clients from core

2009-02-27 Thread Stefan Andersson
I second moving Demo code out of core and onto forge. So, loose the npc demos and the simplemodulewhateverit'scalled but please load it onto some forge project. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:09:31 + From: mela...@t-data.com To: opensim

Re: [Opensim-dev] Proposal: Light-weight Release Cycle

2009-03-11 Thread Stefan Andersson
release-type to that string. Other than that, the revision number should be in there. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:11:56 -0400 From: coyle+open...@knifejaw.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Proposal: Light

Re: [Opensim-dev] OpenSim dll for use by other programs

2009-03-14 Thread Stefan Andersson
in the core repo, it should follow the core naming conventions. I'm proposing we create something that can function both for our own core and for third parties. Kind of like Axiom has (had?) its Mathlib. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:44:10 -0700 From

Re: [Opensim-dev] Moving Archive code into Framework

2009-03-14 Thread Stefan Andersson
I think that might even be the OpenSim.Framework.Serialization namespace I suggested in an earlier post. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB gested Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:31:27 +0900 From: mma...@gmail.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: [Opensim-dev] Moving

Re: [Opensim-dev] Accessing textures via HTTP [bayes]

2009-03-18 Thread Stefan Andersson
General +1's, cheers and yays. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:38:41 -0700 From: d...@metaverseink.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Accessing textures via HTTP [bayes] The road to security is like an obstacle course

Re: [Opensim-dev] Unit tests should not be coupled (WAS: Re: [Opensim-commits] r8737 - trunk/OpenSim/Framework/Communications/Tests)

2009-03-23 Thread Stefan Andersson
One of the 'killers' in CI involving tests is when the CI builder starts failing intermittently on integration tests just because something on the CI machine is configured in a certain way, or takes a certain time to execute. Having chained integrations tests in this setting will

[Opensim-dev] Proposal: Drop VS 2005 suppost [Was: C# 3.0 vs .Net 2]

2009-03-26 Thread Stefan Andersson
. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:47:21 + From: ch...@codetorque.co.uk To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] C# 3.0 vs .Net 2 You may find some issues with that since it’s a CTP (pre-beta) from 2006, so some supported

Re: [Opensim-dev] C# 3.0 vs .Net 2

2009-03-26 Thread Stefan Andersson
solution. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB From: mysticaldem...@xrgrid.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:30:39 -0400 Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] C# 3.0 vs .Net 2 Is there a way we can add some extended solutions to OpenSim that are platform specific

Re: [Opensim-dev] Report on 0.6.4-rc1? (Stefan Andersson)

2009-03-26 Thread Stefan Andersson
Excellent, thank you. Could you try the /branches/0.6.4-rc strain? it's not actually 8732, but I've just upped the version numbers on it. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB From: r...@ralf-haifisch.biz To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:08:59 +0100

Re: [Opensim-dev] Proposal: Drop VS 2005 suppost [Was: C# 3.0 vs .Net 2]

2009-03-27 Thread Stefan Andersson
Good idea. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:21:23 +0100 From: alberto.navarro.bil...@gmail.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Proposal: Drop VS 2005 suppost [Was: C# 3.0 vs .Net 2] ;-). simple and effective

Re: [Opensim-dev] RFC: Ways of creating profiles for creators who will never log in

2009-03-27 Thread Stefan Andersson
, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:00:16 + From: jjusti...@googlemail.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: [Opensim-dev] RFC: Ways of creating profiles for creators who will never log in Hello, For Inventory Archives I plan to preserve item creator

Re: [Opensim-dev] Opensim-dev Digest, Vol 19, Issue 78

2009-03-27 Thread Stefan Andersson
If you got it from that path, it should be correct. It's important to understand that the revision numbers are shared among branches, so 8891 and 8892 could well be from differing branches, and thus reflect wildly differing functionalitites. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB

Re: [Opensim-dev] new release system - 0.6.4

2009-04-02 Thread Stefan Andersson
checkout path. I know the release cycle is inofficially kind of my baby, but I have, like all of the core devs, varying amounts of time to devote to this, so help is appreciated, and the wiki is free for all to keep current. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB From: r

Re: [Opensim-dev] New language for Downloads Page

2009-04-02 Thread Stefan Andersson
I added an 'older versions archive' paragraph too, just to push trunk even lower down the page. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:46:44 -0400 From: sda...@gmail.com To: opensim-us...@lists.berlios.de; opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: [Opensim

Re: [Opensim-dev] Facebook app: inventory trade

2009-04-03 Thread Stefan Andersson
regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:26:10 -0700 From: dzona...@dzonux.net To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Facebook app: inventory trade What I had in mind maybe more simple than what TribalOne has done so far. What you showed actually

[Opensim-dev] On Revisions, tags and branches

2009-04-04 Thread Stefan Andersson
lets you compare revision numbers to indicate advancement of state. So, don't tell people to check a certain revision out, unless you mean _exactly_ that version - tell them the logical path to it instead. Just thought this might clear some confusion up. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal

Re: [Opensim-dev] On Revisions, tags and branches

2009-04-05 Thread Stefan Andersson
However, given that this means source releases magically appear shortly after tags, I'd recommend just tagging off 0.6.4.1-release, 0.6.4.2-release, etc when fixes go in that should release to the world. Good call, Sean; I think that should be how we do it. At least, we could tag it once

Re: [Opensim-dev] [Opensim-commits] r9036 - in trunk/OpenSim

2009-04-08 Thread Stefan Andersson
Done. I restored the gridlaunch as well, as I took the deletion of it to be another mistake? Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de CC: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de; opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de From: alan_w...@us.ibm.com Date: Wed, 8 Apr

[Opensim-dev] Custom Nunit CategoryAttribute

2009-04-09 Thread Stefan Andersson
://lbsa71.net/2009/04/09/nunit-custom-categoryattribute-and-resharper-testrunner/ Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev

Re: [Opensim-dev] Backports Testing Request

2009-04-09 Thread Stefan Andersson
regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB From: a...@deepthink.com.au To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 02:46:09 -0400 Subject: [Opensim-dev] Backports Testing Request Could everyone running trunk please test r9048 extensively. If it works appropriately, could someone

Re: [Opensim-dev] Security: multiple or the most generic?

2009-04-13 Thread Stefan Andersson
. Thoughts? (It baffles me we don't seem to have that already - I'm not working on the AssetInventory server as I feel its ultimate destiny is still somewhat hazy?) Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 11:25:06 -0700 From: d...@metaverseink.com To: mela...@t

Re: [Opensim-dev] Proposal: Drop VS 2005 suppost [Was: C# 3.0 vs .Net 2]

2009-04-13 Thread Stefan Andersson
, and then introduce a VS 2005 'breaker' to really get things going. Do we have a 0.6.5-rc1 rev? Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB From: ste...@tribalmedia.se To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:32:04 +0100 Subject: [Opensim-dev] Proposal: Drop VS 2005 suppost

Re: [Opensim-dev] Supplying IScene instead of Scene for the future region modules mechanism

2009-04-14 Thread Stefan Andersson
. Laying the foundations for a ISceneAPI, if you will? On my mind for a long time, both these things has been. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:02:45 +0100 From: jjusti...@googlemail.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: [Opensim-dev

Re: [Opensim-dev] Supplying IScene instead of Scene for the future region modules mechanism

2009-04-14 Thread Stefan Andersson
probably look (subtly or radically) different. Not to _hide_ core functionality from the module, but to provide _tailored_ functionality, enumerated for smooth decoupling and encapsulation. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 20:32:48 +0200 From: mela...@t

Re: [Opensim-dev] Supplying IScene instead of Scene for the future region modules mechanism

2009-04-14 Thread Stefan Andersson
. Nobody has, as far as I can see, forwarded that sentiment. I think we must be both misunderstanding each other? /Stefan Stefan Andersson wrote: Justin, Homer; consider two things you might: 1) take the opportunity to take a moment to re-ponder each missing IScene

Re: [Opensim-dev] Supplying IScene instead of Scene for the future region modules mechanism

2009-04-14 Thread Stefan Andersson
Hell, +1 on solving the issue at hand without going into long architectural discussion. Just chipping in. :D Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 00:37:58 +0200 From: mela...@t-data.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev

[Opensim-dev] Request for feedback: 0.6.5 Release Candidate 1 Prospects

2009-04-14 Thread Stefan Andersson
. With that, I leave the floor open. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev

Re: [Opensim-dev] Supplying IScene instead of Scene for the future region modules mechanism

2009-04-15 Thread Stefan Andersson
scene.m_restorePresences O.o /Stefan ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev

Re: [Opensim-dev] Supplying IScene instead of Scene for the future region modules mechanism

2009-04-15 Thread Stefan Andersson
... unless it was exposed in that interface, or the functionality was available in some other way. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:12:57 +0200 From: mela...@t-data.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Supplying IScene

Re: [Opensim-dev] The essence of grid

2009-04-17 Thread Stefan Andersson
Wonderful job, Diva. I think we're onto something here. - Simulator trust domain: a set of simulators that trust each other, operated by one single authority Sounds fine; akin or parallell to an 'estate' perhaps? I propose the entity Resource Services: A set of zero or more

Re: [Opensim-dev] The essence of grid

2009-04-17 Thread Stefan Andersson
Am I correct in assuming that the hypergrid then boils down to the untrusted connections? What is left, basically. Well, not quite. Given that a grid can contain several trust domains, there may be untrusted connections even within a grid. For example, Wright Plaza should not trust

Re: [Opensim-dev] Request for feedback: 0.6.5Release Candidate 1Prospects

2009-04-17 Thread Stefan Andersson
Is this fixed? Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:42:45 +0100 From: ch...@codetorque.co.uk To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Request for feedback: 0.6.5Release Candidate 1Prospects Ah yes, this slipped through my tests

Re: [Opensim-dev] Request for feedback: 0.6.5Release Candidate 1Prospects

2009-04-22 Thread Stefan Andersson
Give me a rev, and I'll tag it, then let's take it for a drive, rev the rev, kick the wheels and see if we buy the car. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:16:32 -0700 From: cmick...@gmail.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Request

Re: [Opensim-dev] Request for feedback: 0.6.5 Release Candidate Prospects

2009-04-25 Thread Stefan Andersson
So, can anybody champion a suitable rc revision? Give us a number, goddammit! :D Best regards, Stefan Andersson From: a...@deepthink.com.au To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 22:59:50 -0400 Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Request for feedback: 0.6.5 Release Candidate

Re: [Opensim-dev] moving away from grid vs. standalone

2009-04-28 Thread Stefan Andersson
In my world, the grid=true and all that were simply shorthands. It's always been our (my) intention that we would get to a point where you'd 'assemble' your installation, preferrably thru a gui. Below is a draft of what OpenSim.ini could look like. Thoughts?

Re: [Opensim-dev] moving away from grid vs. standalone

2009-04-29 Thread Stefan Andersson
We could then have an method similar to the way we define/select physics engines; 2. On your previous suggested ini stuff, in my opinion something like UserService = { local | remote } would be clearer than LocalUserService = {True|False} So that each UserService module needs to

Re: [Opensim-dev] Opensim-dev Digest, Vol 20, Issue 75

2009-04-29 Thread Stefan Andersson
Just a heads up; I will probably not have time to champion the release cycle I have outlined in earlier posts - I hereby declare and underline it being a community effort. Best regards, Stefan Andersson From: r...@ralf-haifisch.biz To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20

Re: [Opensim-dev] moving away from grid vs. standalone

2009-04-29 Thread Stefan Andersson
2. On your previous suggested ini stuff, in my opinion something like UserService = { local | remote } would be clearer than LocalUserService = {True|False} From what I remember, specifying remote is understandable even if the services are actually on the

Re: [Opensim-dev] moving away from grid vs. standalone

2009-04-29 Thread Stefan Andersson
+1 on breaking things more often in trunk. That said, unless we have 'release' tags reasonably up-to-date, people will use trunk and resent opensim for it not working, whatever we tell them. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:01:43 +0200 From: mela...@t-data.com

Re: [Opensim-dev] Alternatively Identifying Assets using URL's

2009-05-01 Thread Stefan Andersson
it, but I believe you all understand what I'm saying. Have a look at what uses the fairly new ContainsReferences method on AssetBase to see where I was going. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:56:57 +0300 From: tommi.s.e.laukka...@gmail.com To: opensim-dev

[Opensim-dev] Upgrading NUnit

2009-05-06 Thread Stefan Andersson
system 'Panda' doesn't get acute indigestion on this. Best regards, Stefan Andersson ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev

Re: [Opensim-dev] Upgrading NUnit

2009-05-06 Thread Stefan Andersson
why it breaks, as the typeloader just gives me an NullException. Anyway, if this is a breaker for the linux peeps, I suggest we postpone until a fix has arrived. I can download an older nunit-gui. ;-) Best regards, Stefan Andersson Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 20:33:07 +0800 From: mma

[Opensim-dev] OpenSim hits r10k.

2009-05-08 Thread Stefan Andersson
, Stefan Andersson ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev

Re: [Opensim-dev] Exposed web interfaces in OpenSim

2009-05-08 Thread Stefan Andersson
Excellent job! Now, if we could just get example interaction contents for each of those, we'd open a world of possibilitites for web developers! :D Best regards, Stefan Andersson Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:23:34 +0300 From: sempu...@gmail.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject

Re: [Opensim-dev] MRM Loader

2009-05-13 Thread Stefan Andersson
? Is there a degree of abstraction that can be attained so as to fuse them into one configurable LSL Script Engine? Best regards, Stefan Andersson Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 21:38:11 -0700 From: m...@maimedleech.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] MRM Loader In response

Re: [Opensim-dev] WARNING: r9562 may break things

2009-05-15 Thread Stefan Andersson
Project per backend function, there will be lots of small projects in the solution. On a side note, shouldn't the Region server move into the Servers as well? Just a thought. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 10:37:27 +0200 From: mela...@t-data.com To: d

Re: [Opensim-dev] breaking OpenSim.ini changes

2009-05-20 Thread Stefan Andersson
Okay, so I branched off /branches/0.6.5-rc1 based on 9561, and upped the revision numbers. Please all testers (from now on fondly known as trunkheads) give that a spin, and give your feedback so we can nail it and update the wiki et c. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Date: Tue, 19

Re: [Opensim-dev] breaking OpenSim.ini changes

2009-05-20 Thread Stefan Andersson
Yes, I've done nothing in trunk. Check out /branches/0.6.5-rc1 Best regards, Stefan Andersson Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 01:31:00 -0700 From: nebadon2...@gmail.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] breaking OpenSim.ini changes I just updated trunk and its still

Re: [Opensim-dev] Memory cache

2009-05-21 Thread Stefan Andersson
If the cache is releasing objects, I think we might well be seeing LOH fragmentation. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc534993.aspx The solution would then be to break the binaries apart into byte cucks smaller than the LOH trshold. Best regards, Stefan Andersson From

[Opensim-dev] FW: On Revisions, tags and branches

2009-05-26 Thread Stefan Andersson
In light of recent confusion, reposting this; should go onto wiki, I suppose. Best regards, Stefan Andersson From: ste...@tribalmedia.se To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:27:06 +0200 Subject: [Opensim-dev] On Revisions, tags and branches Esteemed colleagues

[Opensim-dev] OpenSim lightweight Release Cycle

2009-05-26 Thread Stefan Andersson
I've added http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Release_Cycle and http://opensimulator.org/wiki/On_revisions%2C_tags_and_branches to the wiki. I would appreciate greatly if somebody could link to these pages from good places on the wiki. Best regards, Stefan Andersson

Re: [Opensim-dev] Memory cache

2009-05-27 Thread Stefan Andersson
Imaze, if you are doing work from scratch, you always have the option to keep a proprietary version for yourself, whilst releasing one version as BSD. As long as you're not using code that any other OpenSim developer has committed, all rights still belong solely to you. Before jumping

Re: [Opensim-dev] Tag 0.6.6

2009-05-28 Thread Stefan Andersson
I don't think there should be any limits as to when a release is tagged; go forth with the release cycle recipe - just make sure to apply the newly (post 0.6.5) introduced 'Flavour' if you decide to do so. http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Release_Cycle Best regards, Stefan Andersson

Re: [Opensim-dev] Anonymous Avatar

2009-05-28 Thread Stefan Andersson
, a third party user database) If somebody would code a reasonably encapsulated and configurable patch for something like this, I think many would be thankful. /Stefan Best regards, Stefan Andersson Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 12:00:29 +0200 From: thomas.schind...@t-systems-mms.com

[Opensim-dev] 0.7 Release Discussion

2009-05-31 Thread Stefan Andersson
can all go back to fiddling with our various dev projects again. What you say? Best regards, Stefan Andersson ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev

Re: [Opensim-dev] 0.7 Release Discussion

2009-05-31 Thread Stefan Andersson
could clear mantis, as in getting to a point where all issues with the current feature set is fixed or closed. Again, only striving to set a tone. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 06:34:36 -0700 From: nebadon2...@gmail.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re

Re: [Opensim-dev] HUGE ASSET CACHE

2009-05-31 Thread Stefan Andersson
On a side note, one thing to profile would be to work towards having large binaries transferred as streams instead of bringing them into memory and transforming them into various temporary forms. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 08:12:30 -0700 From: mcor

Re: [Opensim-dev] 0.7 Release Discussion

2009-06-01 Thread Stefan Andersson
is quite similar to the 'updater' class we already have, but that we don't use. Maybe with some tweaking, it could become that? Anybody out there would want to be such a 'tester'? If so, now's the time to step forward. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 13:40:17

Re: [Opensim-dev] Shaping the user services

2009-06-22 Thread Stefan Andersson
at it, could we please make the authentication token pluggable, or at least something a little bit less SL-centric than first, last, pass? pluggable credentials class would be best, but even string + pass would be better than the current. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 06:33

  1   2   >