Re: [Opensim-users] Diva Distro does not work for me-alternatives please
Thank you again @Sean💚! I have ports 9000, 8002, 8003 for OpenSim. I think the issue was they weren't open. I did reach out to Diva Canto to get her take on things as well. I have an Ubuntu VPS but think of changing it to Windows even though I can easily install OS on Ubuntu. May give it a try. As far as Dreamgrid..it was extremely easy to maneuver..just download, unzip, and run router/exe.file! Actually I'm a fan of his work no only for the ease but for the array of oar files some of which I've used before😊 Me Im seeking a challenge so I chose to do from scratch but I have no problem trying DG again💗 On Jan 9, 2019 8:17 PM, "Sean Hennessee" wrote: Timeka, I agree wholeheartedly with Fred about Dreamgrid! I now use it instead of DD because of the ease of creating new regions, loading OARs and IARs, starting and stopping individual regions; it's all easier. I have some more info that might help you. I checked my copy of Diva Distro, and it is working fine, including the Wifi web interface on my Win7 laptop. I checked this using Chrome and Firestorm on my Mac desktop on my home LAN. So, this is not just localhost, it was tested over my local LAN on a 10.0.1.* network. The wifi URL I used is: http://10.0.1.37:9000/wifi/ The grid URI I used is: http://10.0.1.37:9000/ Looking at my firewall settings on Win7, these are what I noticed were added: Ports open: for Diva Distro: 9000 TCP, 9000-9010 UDP in/out for DreamGrid: 8000-8100 TCP in/out I also used the Windoze firewall to add an exception for opensim.exe to allow all UDP & TCP traffic going to/from that program. If attaching a pic works, it shows my Firestorm config for connecting to DD. Hope that helps. ~Sean On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 1:50 PM Timeka Cobb wrote: > It helped greatly😊 > > I got an Ubuntu VPS and tried to install their but couldn't..was told that > certain ports wasn't open so I just reached out to my web host so they can > open them. I tried on Windows in localhost but fail through. I'm going to > try again on my VPS after I get a response and see if it helps! > > 💙💚 > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2019, 4:36 PM Sean Hennessee wrote: > > > Timeka, > > > > In my experience from 11 years ago when I was setting up regions in > OSgrid > > and other testing regions for my job, the *firewall settings* tended to > be > > what prevented things from working correctly, (once I figured out how to > > compile and run everything correctly). At the time I was using a RedHat > > linux server. I would often turn off the firewall just to see if it > worked > > for a bit, then figure out what ports I forgot to open and try it again. > I > > eventually got it all working okay. > > > > Currently, I only have my home network which is behind a NAT controlled > by > > my ISP, as well as my own NAT on my own router (i.e. double NATed). So, I > > have no chance of putting any of my grid on the full internet. > > > > I did have DivaDistro working here on my home network, but I don't think > I > > ever bothered to go into Wifi. I just used the command line interface to > do > > whatever I needed. And I also had to debug the firewall settings for this > > too. > > > > Not sure if any of that helped. Good luck with your attempts. > > > > ~Sean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 1:18 PM Timeka Cobb wrote: > > > > > Thank you Sir @Sean for the repsonse💛 > > > > > > When I first started I used Dreamgrid and its wonderful but I wanted to > > > create something from scratch so I went to OS. I have no issues with OS > > > I've built my world in that perfectly it's just the DD. I'm trying to > > > figure out how the folks that have used it got it to work? > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2019, 4:01 PM Sean Hennessee > > wrote: > > > > > > > Timeka, > > > > I have had good luck using the OutWorldZ DreamGrid on my Win7 > desktop. > > > > https://www.outworldz.com/Outworldz_installer/Grid/DreamGrid.zip > > > > I have only used it on my home LAN, but it is made to work on the > open > > > > internet with hypergrid. It comes with a lot of documentation too. It > > > > includes everything needed to run the grid including installing, > > > > configuring and running MySQL > > > > It has a GUI for loading OARs and IARs and automatically configures > > > backups > > > > for you. > > > > ~Sean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 12:50 PM Timeka Cobb > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello all! > > > > > > > > > > Ive been wrecking my brain and Ive come to the realization that > this > > > Diva > > > > > Distro also Wifi does not work for me. Ive tried to build on both a > > > Linux > > > > > and Windows platform and nothing works. Do anyone know of an > > > alternative > > > > or > > > > > is this really needed? Im building a conference center world and > jut > > > want > > > > > people to visit and use for business and educational purposes. Do I > > > need > > > > an > > > > > account registration or can just get folks to use without > > registering? >
Re: [Opensim-users] Diva Distro does not work for me-alternatives please
Timeka, I agree wholeheartedly with Fred about Dreamgrid! I now use it instead of DD because of the ease of creating new regions, loading OARs and IARs, starting and stopping individual regions; it's all easier. I have some more info that might help you. I checked my copy of Diva Distro, and it is working fine, including the Wifi web interface on my Win7 laptop. I checked this using Chrome and Firestorm on my Mac desktop on my home LAN. So, this is not just localhost, it was tested over my local LAN on a 10.0.1.* network. The wifi URL I used is: http://10.0.1.37:9000/wifi/ The grid URI I used is: http://10.0.1.37:9000/ Looking at my firewall settings on Win7, these are what I noticed were added: Ports open: for Diva Distro: 9000 TCP, 9000-9010 UDP in/out for DreamGrid: 8000-8100 TCP in/out I also used the Windoze firewall to add an exception for opensim.exe to allow all UDP & TCP traffic going to/from that program. If attaching a pic works, it shows my Firestorm config for connecting to DD. Hope that helps. ~Sean On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 1:50 PM Timeka Cobb wrote: > It helped greatly😊 > > I got an Ubuntu VPS and tried to install their but couldn't..was told that > certain ports wasn't open so I just reached out to my web host so they can > open them. I tried on Windows in localhost but fail through. I'm going to > try again on my VPS after I get a response and see if it helps! > > 💙💚 > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2019, 4:36 PM Sean Hennessee wrote: > > > Timeka, > > > > In my experience from 11 years ago when I was setting up regions in > OSgrid > > and other testing regions for my job, the *firewall settings* tended to > be > > what prevented things from working correctly, (once I figured out how to > > compile and run everything correctly). At the time I was using a RedHat > > linux server. I would often turn off the firewall just to see if it > worked > > for a bit, then figure out what ports I forgot to open and try it again. > I > > eventually got it all working okay. > > > > Currently, I only have my home network which is behind a NAT controlled > by > > my ISP, as well as my own NAT on my own router (i.e. double NATed). So, I > > have no chance of putting any of my grid on the full internet. > > > > I did have DivaDistro working here on my home network, but I don't think > I > > ever bothered to go into Wifi. I just used the command line interface to > do > > whatever I needed. And I also had to debug the firewall settings for this > > too. > > > > Not sure if any of that helped. Good luck with your attempts. > > > > ~Sean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 1:18 PM Timeka Cobb wrote: > > > > > Thank you Sir @Sean for the repsonse💛 > > > > > > When I first started I used Dreamgrid and its wonderful but I wanted to > > > create something from scratch so I went to OS. I have no issues with OS > > > I've built my world in that perfectly it's just the DD. I'm trying to > > > figure out how the folks that have used it got it to work? > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2019, 4:01 PM Sean Hennessee > > wrote: > > > > > > > Timeka, > > > > I have had good luck using the OutWorldZ DreamGrid on my Win7 > desktop. > > > > https://www.outworldz.com/Outworldz_installer/Grid/DreamGrid.zip > > > > I have only used it on my home LAN, but it is made to work on the > open > > > > internet with hypergrid. It comes with a lot of documentation too. It > > > > includes everything needed to run the grid including installing, > > > > configuring and running MySQL > > > > It has a GUI for loading OARs and IARs and automatically configures > > > backups > > > > for you. > > > > ~Sean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 12:50 PM Timeka Cobb > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello all! > > > > > > > > > > Ive been wrecking my brain and Ive come to the realization that > this > > > Diva > > > > > Distro also Wifi does not work for me. Ive tried to build on both a > > > Linux > > > > > and Windows platform and nothing works. Do anyone know of an > > > alternative > > > > or > > > > > is this really needed? Im building a conference center world and > jut > > > want > > > > > people to visit and use for business and educational purposes. Do I > > > need > > > > an > > > > > account registration or can just get folks to use without > > registering? > > > > > Thanks for the help! > > > > > > > > > > 💗, > > > > > Timeka Cobb > > > > > ___ > > > > > Opensim-users mailing list > > > > > Opensim-users@opensimulator.org > > > > > http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > Opensim-users mailing list > > > > Opensim-users@opensimulator.org > > > > http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users > > > > > > > ___ > > > Opensim-users mailing list > > > Opensim-users@opensimulator.org > > > http://opensimulator.org/cg
[Opensim-users] e: Diva Distro does not work for me-alternatives please, (Fred Beckjhusen)
On 2019-01-09 3:50 PM, opensim-users-requ...@opensimulator.org wrote: Today's Topics: 1. Diva Distro does not work for me-alternatives please (Timeka Cobb) Hi Timeka!  Dreamgrid has Diva Wifi in it, with customizable Black and White themes now. It's not Linux-ey, but Dreamgrid does run on all Windows boxes including 7, 8, and 10 and all server products. It just uses RAM and cores and some disk space, and not much else.  Dreamgrid is Dot Net 'wrapper' that runs tests on the network and then edits the INI files. One click of Start then launches stock Mysql, Robust and Opensim. If you need a higher level overview than all this detail, the OSCC2018 presentation is at https://www.outworldz.com/secondlife/OSCC/ and a 20 minute Youtube video of me yacking is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrDxpzI7Gsk Dreamgrid is 100% stock Opensim internally. You could just extract it on any Windows box and run Opensim/bin/opensim.exe as-is.  If so, you would need to do a few edits to INi files. Dreamgrid is designed to automated this and make it very easy to do. Its overall still very complex as there is a lot of stuff there, but you can still start a new grid in two clicks. You can download the zip file, or run the simple installer, then edit the usual INI files by hand. Or run Dreamgrid once to make a working config, alter it the way you like, and if you still want to roll your own, run it from a DOS prompt after that. There is a DOS command included (startmanually.bat) to launch Mysql (and a batch file to run it as a service if that's what you prefer) , and another batch file to start robust. Just type 'go regionname' and it will run without Dreamgrid ever being used. I even include batch files to do these tasks individually, and a sample and simple batch file to do them all at once. Dreamgrid makes it a lot easier to get up quickly, as it picks defaults that always work. If ports are open and loopback works, it will be on the hypergrid, too. It sets up Diva, Robust, all the config files for Opensim, builds regions, and sets up tons of the modules like Gloebits, Vivox, Birds, Tides, Datasnapshot, Diva, AutoRestart, and many others. Dreamgrid does over 250 edits on startup, and then does about 300 more for each region.  No need to mess with INI files, ever! Source codes: My code is AGPL, so it's open source. All the code (including Opensim) is compiled by me and is digitally signed by Outworldz, LLC so it is safe to download and run. Dreamgrid downloads always include the source code for Opensim, which is also easily upgraded by copying a stock Opensim zip file over it and running prebuild and compile.bat, assuming you want to add modules or develop C# code or tweak Opensim. You can even compile it elsewhere and copy opensim/bin over my code. and it should work. Nothing gets stepped on. The source for both DG and Opensim is at github.com/Outworldz.  You can clone that and compile it the app with Visual Studio 2015 or 2017 and it will run everything, including a database and Opensim immediately. If you still want to roll your own from my base, there are some minor differences in INI settings you need to be aware of.  It's still all core Opensim. The region folders are set up to allow one Opensim.exe run all DOS instances. bin\Openim.ini is now bin\Opensim.proto. This gets copied into region folder as Opensim.ini so each DOS Box can have different settings, such as UBODE versus Bullet. bin\config-include\OSSLEnable.ini is now bin\config-include\OSSLEnableDG.ini, so stock Opensim does not overwrite it. -- --ooo--/\/\/\-|(--ooo--/\/\/\-|(--ooo Fred K. Beckhusen President Micro Technology Services, Inc. fre...@mitsi.com tel: (888) 230-MTSI Toll Free cel: (469) 951-7635 http://www.mitsi.com ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
[Opensim-users] A second to DreamGrid...
It is wonderful! And many of the oars included you have already gotten from Zadaroo. It will check your settings for you including the router. I used to run opensimulator with Diva Distro and stopped when Dreamworld was put out to the public. It is almost 1 button operation... and yet, very customizable. You can also just load a flat oar and make what you want. ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
Re: [Opensim-users] Diva Distro does not work for me-alternatives please
It helped greatly😊 I got an Ubuntu VPS and tried to install their but couldn't..was told that certain ports wasn't open so I just reached out to my web host so they can open them. I tried on Windows in localhost but fail through. I'm going to try again on my VPS after I get a response and see if it helps! 💙💚 On Wed, Jan 9, 2019, 4:36 PM Sean Hennessee Timeka, > > In my experience from 11 years ago when I was setting up regions in OSgrid > and other testing regions for my job, the *firewall settings* tended to be > what prevented things from working correctly, (once I figured out how to > compile and run everything correctly). At the time I was using a RedHat > linux server. I would often turn off the firewall just to see if it worked > for a bit, then figure out what ports I forgot to open and try it again. I > eventually got it all working okay. > > Currently, I only have my home network which is behind a NAT controlled by > my ISP, as well as my own NAT on my own router (i.e. double NATed). So, I > have no chance of putting any of my grid on the full internet. > > I did have DivaDistro working here on my home network, but I don't think I > ever bothered to go into Wifi. I just used the command line interface to do > whatever I needed. And I also had to debug the firewall settings for this > too. > > Not sure if any of that helped. Good luck with your attempts. > > ~Sean > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 1:18 PM Timeka Cobb wrote: > > > Thank you Sir @Sean for the repsonse💛 > > > > When I first started I used Dreamgrid and its wonderful but I wanted to > > create something from scratch so I went to OS. I have no issues with OS > > I've built my world in that perfectly it's just the DD. I'm trying to > > figure out how the folks that have used it got it to work? > > > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2019, 4:01 PM Sean Hennessee > wrote: > > > > > Timeka, > > > I have had good luck using the OutWorldZ DreamGrid on my Win7 desktop. > > > https://www.outworldz.com/Outworldz_installer/Grid/DreamGrid.zip > > > I have only used it on my home LAN, but it is made to work on the open > > > internet with hypergrid. It comes with a lot of documentation too. It > > > includes everything needed to run the grid including installing, > > > configuring and running MySQL > > > It has a GUI for loading OARs and IARs and automatically configures > > backups > > > for you. > > > ~Sean > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 12:50 PM Timeka Cobb wrote: > > > > > > > Hello all! > > > > > > > > Ive been wrecking my brain and Ive come to the realization that this > > Diva > > > > Distro also Wifi does not work for me. Ive tried to build on both a > > Linux > > > > and Windows platform and nothing works. Do anyone know of an > > alternative > > > or > > > > is this really needed? Im building a conference center world and jut > > want > > > > people to visit and use for business and educational purposes. Do I > > need > > > an > > > > account registration or can just get folks to use without > registering? > > > > Thanks for the help! > > > > > > > > 💗, > > > > Timeka Cobb > > > > ___ > > > > Opensim-users mailing list > > > > Opensim-users@opensimulator.org > > > > http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users > > > > > > > ___ > > > Opensim-users mailing list > > > Opensim-users@opensimulator.org > > > http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users > > > > > ___ > > Opensim-users mailing list > > Opensim-users@opensimulator.org > > http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users > > > ___ > Opensim-users mailing list > Opensim-users@opensimulator.org > http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users > ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
Re: [Opensim-users] Diva Distro does not work for me-alternatives please
Timeka, In my experience from 11 years ago when I was setting up regions in OSgrid and other testing regions for my job, the *firewall settings* tended to be what prevented things from working correctly, (once I figured out how to compile and run everything correctly). At the time I was using a RedHat linux server. I would often turn off the firewall just to see if it worked for a bit, then figure out what ports I forgot to open and try it again. I eventually got it all working okay. Currently, I only have my home network which is behind a NAT controlled by my ISP, as well as my own NAT on my own router (i.e. double NATed). So, I have no chance of putting any of my grid on the full internet. I did have DivaDistro working here on my home network, but I don't think I ever bothered to go into Wifi. I just used the command line interface to do whatever I needed. And I also had to debug the firewall settings for this too. Not sure if any of that helped. Good luck with your attempts. ~Sean On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 1:18 PM Timeka Cobb wrote: > Thank you Sir @Sean for the repsonse💛 > > When I first started I used Dreamgrid and its wonderful but I wanted to > create something from scratch so I went to OS. I have no issues with OS > I've built my world in that perfectly it's just the DD. I'm trying to > figure out how the folks that have used it got it to work? > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2019, 4:01 PM Sean Hennessee wrote: > > > Timeka, > > I have had good luck using the OutWorldZ DreamGrid on my Win7 desktop. > > https://www.outworldz.com/Outworldz_installer/Grid/DreamGrid.zip > > I have only used it on my home LAN, but it is made to work on the open > > internet with hypergrid. It comes with a lot of documentation too. It > > includes everything needed to run the grid including installing, > > configuring and running MySQL > > It has a GUI for loading OARs and IARs and automatically configures > backups > > for you. > > ~Sean > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 12:50 PM Timeka Cobb wrote: > > > > > Hello all! > > > > > > Ive been wrecking my brain and Ive come to the realization that this > Diva > > > Distro also Wifi does not work for me. Ive tried to build on both a > Linux > > > and Windows platform and nothing works. Do anyone know of an > alternative > > or > > > is this really needed? Im building a conference center world and jut > want > > > people to visit and use for business and educational purposes. Do I > need > > an > > > account registration or can just get folks to use without registering? > > > Thanks for the help! > > > > > > 💗, > > > Timeka Cobb > > > ___ > > > Opensim-users mailing list > > > Opensim-users@opensimulator.org > > > http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users > > > > > ___ > > Opensim-users mailing list > > Opensim-users@opensimulator.org > > http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users > > > ___ > Opensim-users mailing list > Opensim-users@opensimulator.org > http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users > ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
Re: [Opensim-users] Diva Distro does not work for me-alternatives please
Thank you Sir @Sean for the repsonse💛 When I first started I used Dreamgrid and its wonderful but I wanted to create something from scratch so I went to OS. I have no issues with OS I've built my world in that perfectly it's just the DD. I'm trying to figure out how the folks that have used it got it to work? On Wed, Jan 9, 2019, 4:01 PM Sean Hennessee Timeka, > I have had good luck using the OutWorldZ DreamGrid on my Win7 desktop. > https://www.outworldz.com/Outworldz_installer/Grid/DreamGrid.zip > I have only used it on my home LAN, but it is made to work on the open > internet with hypergrid. It comes with a lot of documentation too. It > includes everything needed to run the grid including installing, > configuring and running MySQL > It has a GUI for loading OARs and IARs and automatically configures backups > for you. > ~Sean > > > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 12:50 PM Timeka Cobb wrote: > > > Hello all! > > > > Ive been wrecking my brain and Ive come to the realization that this Diva > > Distro also Wifi does not work for me. Ive tried to build on both a Linux > > and Windows platform and nothing works. Do anyone know of an alternative > or > > is this really needed? Im building a conference center world and jut want > > people to visit and use for business and educational purposes. Do I need > an > > account registration or can just get folks to use without registering? > > Thanks for the help! > > > > 💗, > > Timeka Cobb > > ___ > > Opensim-users mailing list > > Opensim-users@opensimulator.org > > http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users > > > ___ > Opensim-users mailing list > Opensim-users@opensimulator.org > http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users > ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
Re: [Opensim-users] Diva Distro does not work for me-alternatives please
Timeka, I have had good luck using the OutWorldZ DreamGrid on my Win7 desktop. https://www.outworldz.com/Outworldz_installer/Grid/DreamGrid.zip I have only used it on my home LAN, but it is made to work on the open internet with hypergrid. It comes with a lot of documentation too. It includes everything needed to run the grid including installing, configuring and running MySQL It has a GUI for loading OARs and IARs and automatically configures backups for you. ~Sean On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 12:50 PM Timeka Cobb wrote: > Hello all! > > Ive been wrecking my brain and Ive come to the realization that this Diva > Distro also Wifi does not work for me. Ive tried to build on both a Linux > and Windows platform and nothing works. Do anyone know of an alternative or > is this really needed? Im building a conference center world and jut want > people to visit and use for business and educational purposes. Do I need an > account registration or can just get folks to use without registering? > Thanks for the help! > > 💗, > Timeka Cobb > ___ > Opensim-users mailing list > Opensim-users@opensimulator.org > http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users > ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
[Opensim-users] Diva Distro does not work for me-alternatives please
Hello all! Ive been wrecking my brain and Ive come to the realization that this Diva Distro also Wifi does not work for me. Ive tried to build on both a Linux and Windows platform and nothing works. Do anyone know of an alternative or is this really needed? Im building a conference center world and jut want people to visit and use for business and educational purposes. Do I need an account registration or can just get folks to use without registering? Thanks for the help! 💗, Timeka Cobb ___ Opensim-users mailing list Opensim-users@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
