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2010-03-19 Thread Alan Burlison
On 18/03/2010 23:57, Norm Jacobs wrote: For several paths on the system, customers expect certain behaviour /usr/xpg4 XPG4 compatible behaviour /usr/xpg6 XPG6 compatible behaviour /usr/gnu GNU/Linux compatible behaviour /usr/ucb SunOS/BSD 4.X behaviour /usr/5bin SVR3 compatible behaviour

More ksh93 builtins [PSARC/2010/095 FastTrack timeout 03/25/2010]

2010-03-19 Thread Norm Jacobs
On 03/18/10 09:54 PM, Sebastien Roy wrote: Norm, On 03/18/10 07:57 PM, Norm Jacobs wrote: It's not that I don't think that the ksh93 built-ins have a place and that they couldn't be a perfectly reasonable default for most people. In some cases, they seem to provide something that is sorely

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2010-03-19 Thread Jerry Tan
. Thanks, Danek Thanks, I will change it to pkg:/library/libgdata -- next part -- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: libgdata.txt URL: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-arc/attachments/20100319/c101356d/attachment.txt

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2010-03-19 Thread Sebastien Roy
Norm, On 03/19/10 04:34 AM, Norm Jacobs wrote: I think that in part, I misread this: Interface Stability Description - - --- ksh93 '/usr/gnu/bin/basename' built in Uncommitted basename utility with GNU extensions ... to mean that $ ksh93 -c /usr/gnu/bin/basename

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2010-03-19 Thread Norm Jacobs
On 03/19/10 07:19 AM, Sebastien Roy wrote: Norm, On 03/19/10 04:34 AM, Norm Jacobs wrote: I think that in part, I misread this: Interface Stability Description - - --- ksh93 '/usr/gnu/bin/basename' built in Uncommitted basename utility with GNU extensions ... to

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2010-03-19 Thread Garrett D'Amore
On 03/19/10 07:58 AM, Norm Jacobs wrote: Yes, that's a good point, and perhaps that can be looked into in the future. However, I think this discussion is veering off-topic for this case, as you're now debating the implementation and architecture of the shell built-ins in general, which is

[shell-discuss] More ksh93 builtins [PSARC/2010/095 FastTrack timeout 03/25/2010]

2010-03-19 Thread Glenn Fowler
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:13:48 -0700 Garrett D'Amore wrote: I am coming to agree. While I'm the sponsor on this case, I'm on the verge of derailing this case and asking that a new case to examine userland shell architecture be created. The fact that we have to put /usr/gnu at the head of

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2010-03-19 Thread Garrett D'Amore
On 03/19/10 08:27 AM, Glenn Fowler wrote: On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:13:48 -0700 Garrett D'Amore wrote: I am coming to agree. While I'm the sponsor on this case, I'm on the verge of derailing this case and asking that a new case to examine userland shell architecture be created. The fact

More ksh93 builtins [PSARC/2010/095 FastTrack timeout 03/25/2010]

2010-03-19 Thread Bart Smaalders
On 03/19/10 08:13, Garrett D'Amore wrote: I'd rather see ksh93 based utilities (or rather libcmd based) with all the bells and whistles delivered into /usr/bin or perhaps /usr/ksh93/bin (and put at the head of $PATH) and leave /usr/gnu as a dumping ground for people who insist that they want

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2010-03-19 Thread Brian utterback
The timer has passed, there was at least one +1, there are no open issues and nobody derailed, so I am marking this closed approved. On 03/11/10 11:23, Brian Utterback wrote: I am sponsoring this fasttrack on behalf of Lukas Rovensky. Binding is patch. Time out is 03/18/2010. Template

OpenSolaris ARC Agenda - March 24, 2010

2010-03-19 Thread Asa Romberger
http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/edit/Community+Group+arc/ARCAgenda/ = OpenSolaris ARC Agenda = TELECONFERENCE NUMBERS: (866)545-5223 (Within US) (215)446-3661 (International) ACCESS CODE 939-55-86 Times are US/Pacific Timezone ARC meetings are recorded. 03/24/2010 10 minutes Open

OpenSolaris ARC Agenda - March 24, 2010

2010-03-19 Thread Asa Romberger
http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/edit/Community+Group+arc/ARCAgenda/ = OpenSolaris ARC Agenda = TELECONFERENCE NUMBERS: (866)545-5223 (Within US) (215)446-3661 (International) ACCESS CODE 939-55-86 Times are US/Pacific Timezone ARC meetings are recorded. 03/24/2010 10 minutes Open

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2010-03-19 Thread Jordan Brown
Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.69 02/15/10 SMI This information is Copyright 2010 Sun Microsystems 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Component Working Name: idmap: default unresolvable SID mapping to true 1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier: Author: Jordan Brown

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2010-03-19 Thread johan...@sun.com
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 08:13:48AM -0700, Garrett D'Amore wrote: The fact that we have to put /usr/gnu at the head of $PATH of new users is a bit of a travesty, and I'm of the opinion that we should reexamine *that* particular decision... This is merely one opinion. There are compelling

More ksh93 builtins [PSARC/2010/095 FastTrack timeout 03/25/2010]

2010-03-19 Thread Garrett D'Amore
On 03/19/10 03:52 PM, johansen at sun.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 08:13:48AM -0700, Garrett D'Amore wrote: The fact that we have to put /usr/gnu at the head of $PATH of new users is a bit of a travesty, and I'm of the opinion that we should reexamine *that* particular decision...

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2010-03-19 Thread johan...@sun.com
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 04:08:09PM -0700, Garrett D'Amore wrote: I'd rather see us modernize our own tools. I resent abdication of our own engineering, and the necessity of abandoning all good innovations (like shell builtins) because some people feel its critical that the only way to achieve

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2010-03-19 Thread Alan Coopersmith
[Removed the case id, since this is off-topic for the case which isn't currently on the table for discussion anyway.] Garrett D'Amore wrote: I'm also of the opinion that it is a mistake to sacrifice familiarity for our paying Solaris 10 customers in favor of familiarity for people coming from