Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
Francois Saint-Jacques <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Beforing getting in the package management/installation stuff, I think we > need to solve a big problem here: ON build. The current build process is > really monolithic and unfriendly for new commers. What is all that > 'nightly' and 'bldenv' stu

Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-05 Thread Darren . Reed
Francois Saint-Jacques wrote: On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:35:33AM -0400, Brian Gupta wrote: One of the goals of Indiana is also to be able to boot and install from a mini cd rom image, that pulls things from the network. I have been thinking that the best option would be to include templates in

Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-05 Thread Francois Saint-Jacques
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:35:33AM -0400, Brian Gupta wrote: > One of the goals of Indiana is also to be able to boot and install from a > mini cd rom image, that pulls things from the network. I have been thinking > that the best option would be to include templates in the installation > procedure

Re: [osol-discuss] Perl 6 on snv_55b x86

2007-06-05 Thread Rod Evans
Stefan Parvu wrote: ld: fatal: symbol `s44W_info' in file /export/home/sparvu/ghc/lib/ghc-6.6.1/libHSCabal.a(Utils__90.o): \ > section [1] .text: size 1042: symbol (address 0x400, size 20) lies outside of containing section ... Anyone any ideas ? Is this a GNU ld / Sun ld issue ? The er

[osol-discuss] Perl 6 on snv_55b x86

2007-06-05 Thread Stefan Parvu
hi all, Im trying to get compiled pugs for Solaris Express build 55b. Pugs is documented under: http://www.pugscode.org/ Basically I have downloaded the Haskell compiler and installed temporarily under my home directory. I see that GHC was not compiled using -R so it complains when trying to

[osol-discuss] Re: How do you set up Solaris 10 character echoes at the login screen password

2007-06-05 Thread John Seaton
Thanks. We are currently having some guys at Solaris look into the code changes but they wanted me to shoot an email out to this community to see how well it is being monitored.as sort of a test to see if I got the same response as they would AND my contact at Sun is getting about the same

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What's the best TERM setting when working remotely from a Linux system?

2007-06-05 Thread Ian Collins
UNIX admin wrote: > You like the tab feature of GNOME terminal? It's a shame that GNOME terminal > is slow and buggy. > > Odd, it appears to be neither on my systems. Ian ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] What's the best TERM setting when working remotely from a Linux system?

2007-06-05 Thread Bart Smaalders
Alex Bennee wrote: Hi, I've never been able to find the correct TERM magic to fix my remote terminal. My principle box is a Linux one with a gnome-terminal with which I ssh over to my Solaris box. The default term setting is "xterm" but this seems to have problems with re-drawing long lines w

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: SXCE Build 65 available

2007-06-05 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> Nope - anti-aliased fonts have been used since the > GNOME 2.6 > first integrated to Solaris 10 before the initial S10 > release. > > -- > -Alan Coopersmith- > - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System > em Engineering > ___

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: SXCE Build 65 available

2007-06-05 Thread Alan Coopersmith
W. Wayne Liauh wrote: Before we got carried away, I want to comment on the fonts of SXCE 65. I believe this is the first time that anti-alias fonts are used in Solaris. Nope - anti-aliased fonts have been used since the GNOME 2.6 first integrated to Solaris 10 before the initial S10 release.

[osol-discuss] Re: SXCE Build 65 available

2007-06-05 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Before we got carried away, I want to comment on the fonts of SXCE 65. I believe this is the first time that anti-alias fonts are used in Solaris. I pay a lot of attention to screen fonts, and at least in this area, Solaris now should rank among the best looking operating systems. Re Blastwav

Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-05 Thread Brian Gupta
On 6/5/07, Alan Burlison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Brian Gupta wrote: >> It might help if some of the people who are criticising what we have at >> the moment had actually bothered to look at the thing they are >> criticising *before* criticising it. > > I mean something like this: http://www.

Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-05 Thread James Carlson
ken mays writes: > Oh, not bad as this is done by Debian installs. Yet, > think of the users that don't connect certain > workstations to the network or have high network > bandwidth. Of course, this is also already part of the stated goals of the Caiman project ... -- James Carlson, Solaris Net

Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-05 Thread Alan Burlison
Alan Coopersmith wrote: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/ has had links to all of them for a while. It still does. -- Alan Burlison -- ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-05 Thread Alan Burlison
Ignacio Marambio Catán wrote: Have you actually looked? ops, i did look, however, i missed the quick downloads table... stupid me but from http://www.theregister.com/2007/05/31/sun_project_indiana/comments/ i can see people are still confused (and complaining). I don't know what the current d

[osol-discuss] Re: Unable To Install DBI::mysql on Solaris 10

2007-06-05 Thread UNIX admin
> Is this bad coding etiquette ? > > [u]dbdimp.c[/u] > > 4459if (!my_login(h, imp_dbh)) > 4460{ > 4461 [b]do_error(h, > mysql_errno(&imp_dbh->mysql), > mysql_error(&imp_dbh->mysql)[/b] > 4462 #if MYSQL_VERSION_ID >= SQL_STATE_VERSION > 4463 [b], > mysql_sqlstate(

[osol-discuss] Re: What's the best TERM setting when working remotely from a Linux system?

2007-06-05 Thread UNIX admin
> /me prepares to read a long man page. You're doing yourself a favor: by investing the time to assimilate the technology now, you'll save tons more time being productive down the road. > I'll look into it but I'd really prefer to work > within my gnome-terminal with all my other sessions. > Unf

Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-05 Thread Ignacio Marambio Catán
On 6/5/07, Alan Burlison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ignacio Marambio Catán wrote: >> What, you mean something like http://opensolaris.org/os/downloads/ ? >> > yes, something like that but more visible and in the front page > (you now need to go to downloads, and scroll down) Have you actually l

Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-05 Thread ken mays
One of the goals of Indiana is also to be able to boot and install from a mini cd rom image, that pulls things from the network. I have been thinking that the best option would be to include templates in the installation procedure that could pull down different packages sets depending on what kind

Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-05 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Ignacio Marambio Catán wrote: On 6/5/07, James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I still stand by my suggestion that we need to have a nice reference > distribution which you can rebuild yourself. I completely agree. The part that's unclear to me is whether solving

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: SXCE Build 65 available

2007-06-05 Thread ken mays
I saw this comment below and thought I would respond: The reason Blastwave has its own GNOME binary set was due to historical events. Blastwave was the forerunner of building newer versions of GNOME for Solaris before OpenSolaris existed. No other major ISV was doing this for Sun Solaris on a cons

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-06-05 Thread James Carlson
Simon Phipps writes: > In which case may I suggest you need to be clearer when you are > speaking on behalf of the OGB or in some other manner of assumed > authority and when you are just expressing a personal opinion? I'm > atypical I know, but I had the distinct impression you were seeking

Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-05 Thread Alan Burlison
Brian Gupta wrote: It might help if some of the people who are criticising what we have at the moment had actually bothered to look at the thing they are criticising *before* criticising it. I mean something like this: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/ Please don't hold the Mozilla site

[osol-discuss] Re: What's the best TERM setting when working remotely from a Linux system?

2007-06-05 Thread Alex Bennee
/me prepares to read a long man page. I'll look into it but I'd really prefer to work within my gnome-terminal with all my other sessions. Unfortunately the winsize magic doesn't unbreak the odd behavior. This message posted from opensolaris.org __

Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-05 Thread Brian Gupta
On 6/5/07, Alan Burlison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Brian Gupta wrote: > As I understand there are links on the homepage?? Speaking of homepage, I > would suggest that once we have a working distro that we have a splash page > that says "Get OpenSolaris" and "Develop OpenSolaris". The get OpenS

Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-05 Thread Alan Burlison
Ignacio Marambio Catán wrote: What, you mean something like http://opensolaris.org/os/downloads/ ? yes, something like that but more visible and in the front page (you now need to go to downloads, and scroll down) Have you actually looked? -- Alan Burlison -- ___

Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-05 Thread Alan Burlison
Brian Gupta wrote: As I understand there are links on the homepage?? Speaking of homepage, I would suggest that once we have a working distro that we have a splash page that says "Get OpenSolaris" and "Develop OpenSolaris". The get OpenSolaris would feature the ref build, but also provide links

Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-05 Thread Ignacio Marambio Catán
On 6/5/07, Alan Burlison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ignacio Marambio Catán wrote: > would it be possible to have links to the rest of the distributions at > osol.org? > that would at least solve ONE problem easily What, you mean something like http://opensolaris.org/os/downloads/ ? yes, somet

Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-05 Thread Anil Gulecha
On 6/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >One of the goals of Indiana is also to be able to boot and install from a >mini cd rom image, that pulls things from the network. I have been thinking >that the best option would be to include templates in the installation >procedure tha

Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-05 Thread Alan Burlison
Ignacio Marambio Catán wrote: would it be possible to have links to the rest of the distributions at osol.org? that would at least solve ONE problem easily What, you mean something like http://opensolaris.org/os/downloads/ ? -- Alan Burlison -- ___

Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-05 Thread Brian Gupta
As I understand there are links on the homepage?? Speaking of homepage, I would suggest that once we have a working distro that we have a splash page that says "Get OpenSolaris" and "Develop OpenSolaris". The get OpenSolaris would feature the ref build, but also provide links and descriptions of t

Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-05 Thread Ignacio Marambio Catán
On 6/5/07, James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I still stand by my suggestion that we need to have a nice reference > distribution which you can rebuild yourself. I completely agree. The part that's unclear to me is whether solving the "I can't find downloads at

Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-05 Thread Brian Gupta
The thought is that things that are part of the OpenSolaris code base would definately be hosts by OpenSolaris.org. Being that all the code hosted by OpenSolaris is freely distributable, it would obviously make sense to develop and leverage mirror sites. One thing that will also be hosted is repo

Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-05 Thread James Carlson
Brian Gupta writes: > One of the goals of Indiana is also to be able to boot and install from a > mini cd rom image, that pulls things from the network. I have been thinking > that the best option would be to include templates in the installation > procedure that could pull down different packages

Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-05 Thread Casper . Dik
>One of the goals of Indiana is also to be able to boot and install from a >mini cd rom image, that pulls things from the network. I have been thinking >that the best option would be to include templates in the installation >procedure that could pull down different packages sets depending on what

Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-05 Thread James Carlson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I still stand by my suggestion that we need to have a nice reference > distribution which you can rebuild yourself. I completely agree. The part that's unclear to me is whether solving the "I can't find downloads at opensolaris.org" is any part of that problem. -- Ja

Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-05 Thread Brian Gupta
One of the goals of Indiana is also to be able to boot and install from a mini cd rom image, that pulls things from the network. I have been thinking that the best option would be to include templates in the installation procedure that could pull down different packages sets depending on what kind

[osol-discuss] Re: SXCE Build 65 available

2007-06-05 Thread Ivan Wang
> > But the question of multimedia codecs has already > > been answered, and the answer isn't the command > line > > interface. The real answer is "include by default > > all the desirable codecs you can, and then make it > > easy to install any leftovers from your app > > installation GUI". That

[osol-discuss] Re: Unable To Install DBI::mysql on Solaris 10

2007-06-05 Thread Steve
Is this bad coding etiquette ? [u]dbdimp.c[/u] 4459if (!my_login(h, imp_dbh)) 4460{ 4461 [b]do_error(h, mysql_errno(&imp_dbh->mysql), mysql_error(&imp_dbh->mysql)[/b] 4462 #if MYSQL_VERSION_ID >= SQL_STATE_VERSION 4463 [b], mysql_sqlstate(&imp_dbh->mysql));[

[osol-discuss] Re: Unable To Install DBI::mysql on Solaris 10

2007-06-05 Thread UNIX admin
"dbdimp.c", line 3429: prototype mismatch: 3 args passed, 4 expected" Right there it tells you: the "expert" is calling a function in his code and passing in three args, while the function expects four. Lovely. This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-05 Thread Casper . Dik
>Robert Lunnon writes: >> The Reference Platform would then be defined as one that emulates this >> as closely as possible without adding extra features that could >> inadvertently differentiate the reference plaqtform from a given distro. > >That's possibly doable, but I think it also runs dire

[osol-discuss] Re: What's the best TERM setting when working remotely from a Linux system?

2007-06-05 Thread UNIX admin
Just take a simple xterm and do the following: stty erase ^V^H TERM=vt100; export TERM eval `/usr/openwin/bin/resize` and read the man page on `xterm`, that's important. That way, you'll be able to set it up to your liking, to be real nice and comfortable. This message posted from opensolari

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: How do you set up Solaris 10 character echoes at the login screen password

2007-06-05 Thread Shawn Walker
On 05/06/07, girish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ian, I feel that telling people that this is an opensolaris forum so take your Solaris questions elsewhere is not helping the cause of either opensolaris or solaris. It may not be friendly, but it is offtopic and people need a gentle reminder. I

Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-05 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2007/6/5, James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Robert Lunnon writes: > The Reference Platform would then be defined as one that emulates this > as closely as possible without adding extra features that could > inadvertently differentiate the reference plaqtform from a given distro. That's possibl

Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-05 Thread James Carlson
Robert Lunnon writes: > The Reference Platform would then be defined as one that emulates this > as closely as possible without adding extra features that could > inadvertently differentiate the reference plaqtform from a given distro. That's possibly doable, but I think it also runs directly in

[osol-discuss] What's the best TERM setting when working remotely from a Linux system?

2007-06-05 Thread Alex Bennee
Hi, I've never been able to find the correct TERM magic to fix my remote terminal. My principle box is a Linux one with a gnome-terminal with which I ssh over to my Solaris box. The default term setting is "xterm" but this seems to have problems with re-drawing long lines when I edit previous c

[osol-discuss] ATLOSUG - Atlanta OpenSolaris User Group - June 12

2007-06-05 Thread Scott Dickson
The next meeting of the Atlanta OpenSolaris User Group will be Tuesday, June 12, at 7PM at the Sun Office in Alpharetta, GA. Our speaker will be Jeff Bounds, talking about "Using OpenSolaris and Solaris Express Developer Edition for Development". Jeff will talk about some of the tools include

[osol-discuss] Unable To Install DBI::mysql on Solaris 10

2007-06-05 Thread Steve
Hello All I appreciate that this may be off topic but I am only having this issue with Solaris 10 and quite frankly I appear to becoming to the end of my rope. So in desperation I am posting this here in the hope that someone can help me. I have been trying to install DBI::mysql on a Solaris 1

Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-06-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
Robert Lunnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I suspect this debate boils down to "What is the base level of > compatibility that the openSolaris 'Brand' should denote such that > Applications are portable between the various implementations. I think > this boils down to: > > A. Define a "Reser

[osol-discuss] Why a distro and not a branded zone?

2007-06-05 Thread Gavin Maltby
Hi, This question occured to me while catching up with the YetAnotherDistro/Indiana/OpenSolaris-distro dicsussion: why use a separate distribution as a delivery vehicle for a new userland toolset and not instead develop branded zones within existing distributions? As far as I can tell the variou

[osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: Project Proposal - (what

2007-06-05 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> This thread is awesome. Paperwork Pokemon: I choose > YOU! > > Unless something is terribly broken, the leader of > the project (Ian?) should be able to have this > administrative stuff dealt with in a day. A big fuss > over the creation of a mailing list? Come on! > > Go Go Gadget Bureaucra

[osol-discuss] Re: How do you set up Solaris 10 character echoes at the login screen passw

2007-06-05 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Assuming you're running CDE (such that the password at login is prompted for by dtlogin, and the password for screen lock is probably prompted for by dtsession), I don't think there's a way to do that short of altering the code for those, which is not publically available (without a hefty fee to Th

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: How do you set up Solaris 10 character echoes at the login screen password

2007-06-05 Thread girish
> Fine, let the list fill up with off topic subjects. I was going to unsubscribe anyway, so I don't really care. Sorry, I didn't mean to offend. > let the list fill up with off topic subjects. The OP probably would have had the same problem even he were using Opensolaris. This message poste

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: How do you set up Solaris 10 character echoes at the login screen password

2007-06-05 Thread Ian Collins
girish wrote: > Ian, > > I feel that telling people that this is an opensolaris forum so take your > Solaris questions elsewhere is not helping the cause of either opensolaris or > solaris. > > Fine, let the list fill up with off topic subjects. I was going to unsubscribe anyway, so I don't r

[osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: Project Proposal - (what

2007-06-05 Thread MC
> Keith M Wesolowski wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:09:38AM +1200, Glynn > Foster wrote: > > > >> So, can we just do it? I have powers to create a > mail alias to start getting > >> some plans discussed [1] - should I just go ahead > and do it? Some web space > >> would be nice, but not ess

[osol-discuss] Re: How do you set up Solaris 10 character echoes at the login screen password

2007-06-05 Thread girish
Ian, I feel that telling people that this is an opensolaris forum so take your Solaris questions elsewhere is not helping the cause of either opensolaris or solaris. Message was edited by: caligula This message posted from opensolaris.org ___