Re: [osol-discuss] osol-11 repair boot of new vmware guest install

2009-02-16 Thread Aubrey Li
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Summary: > I'm having trouble finding advice or a documentation of how to get > inside and repair and install that cannot be booted. > > Details: > > This is a fairly new install of osol-11 from a recent iso image. > Host is winXP using VMware

Re: [osol-discuss] Phoronix Linux vs OpenSolaris benchmark

2009-02-16 Thread Rich Reynolds
this IS what IPS has shown as the potential... the implementation is as usual slow to be manifested, and from the outside we see little(as we should for a distro) of the release process.. that is the secret sauce that makes a disto work... I wait with baited breath, rich Shawn Walker wrot

Re: [osol-discuss] Phoronix Linux vs OpenSolaris benchmark

2009-02-16 Thread Rich Reynolds
sorry --- i mis-typed that upgrade was from 105 to 106, I have been trying to justify a base system upgrade to IPS based 107, but still can't.. I just keep compiling my own it's just like SunOS 3.5 days.. build Unix from Source!!! rich Rich Reynolds wrote: shawn - while things have cha

Re: [osol-discuss] Phoronix Linux vs OpenSolaris benchmark

2009-02-16 Thread Shawn Walker
Rich Reynolds wrote: shawn - while things have changed... the fact that a IPS upgrade from b106 to b107 involved 600+MB of download tells me that the model is still substantially a WOS. I can understand that in a substantial upgrade like 2008.05 to .11, but a basic two week development effo

Re: [osol-discuss] Phoronix Linux vs OpenSolaris benchmark

2009-02-16 Thread Rich Reynolds
shawn - while things have changed... the fact that a IPS upgrade from b106 to b107 involved 600+MB of download tells me that the model is still substantially a WOS. I can understand that in a substantial upgrade like 2008.05 to .11, but a basic two week development effort results in 600+ MB

Re: [osol-discuss] Phoronix Linux vs OpenSolaris benchmark

2009-02-16 Thread Shawn Walker
Rich Reynolds wrote: Greg - thanx for the clarification... my intent was only to suggest that the old BWOS "train" model that Sun has used for MANY years many no longer hold them in good stead and that should a better distro model come about, which finally views a distro as nothing more tha

Re: [osol-discuss] Phoronix Linux vs OpenSolaris benchmark

2009-02-16 Thread Rich Reynolds
Greg - thanx for the clarification... my intent was only to suggest that the old BWOS "train" model that Sun has used for MANY years many no longer hold them in good stead and that should a better distro model come about, which finally views a distro as nothing more than an integrated base

[osol-discuss] osol-11 repair boot of new vmware guest install

2009-02-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Summary: I'm having trouble finding advice or a documentation of how to get inside and repair and install that cannot be booted. Details: This is a fairly new install of osol-11 from a recent iso image. Host is winXP using VMware (VirtualBox freezes the OS repeatedly) I'd been running the new in

Re: [osol-discuss] OS laptop operates with lid closed?

2009-02-16 Thread Chris Mahan
thanks all for your answers! Chris Mahan chris.ma...@gmail.com grandcentral (818) 671-1709 On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 3:45 AM, Joerg Schilling < joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de> wrote: > Chris Mahan wrote: > > > Question: Does anyone know if it would be possible to run opensolaris on > a > >

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris install on x4150?

2009-02-16 Thread Rich Reynolds
Hi all - I had a similar problem on different hardware, and found that hand plumbing the interface and re-enable nwam served as a sufficient work around... hth, rich Alexander Vlasov wrote: Hello, this is known P2 bug, see http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=6331 Actually nw

Re: [osol-discuss] Phoronix Linux vs OpenSolaris benchmark

2009-02-16 Thread Greg Palmer
Martin Bochnig wrote: On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Rich Reynolds wrote: Martin - I firmly beg to differ... the tests were done with out of the box released versions in that there is no mention of doing ubuntu package upgrades. this is just an artifact of Sun's release engineering sched

Re: [osol-discuss] Phoronix Linux vs OpenSolaris benchmark

2009-02-16 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Rich Reynolds wrote: > Martin - > > I firmly beg to differ... > > the tests were done with out of the box released versions in that there is > no mention of doing ubuntu package upgrades. this is just an artifact of > Sun's release engineering schedule. should ano

Re: [osol-discuss] Phoronix Linux vs OpenSolaris benchmark

2009-02-16 Thread Rich Reynolds
Martin - I firmly beg to differ... the tests were done with out of the box released versions in that there is no mention of doing ubuntu package upgrades. this is just an artifact of Sun's release engineering schedule. should another distribution of the opensolaris.org code base opt to inclu

Re: [osol-discuss] emacs under solaris suggested keybindings please

2009-02-16 Thread Dieter Kluenter
Hi, Harry Putnam writes: > I'm hoping some fellow emacs users will be willing to share the > keybindings they use under solaris. > > I'm new to solaris but a long time emacs user (although not > particuilarly skilled). Certain keybindings > that are completely integral to my usage such a Alt+x

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris install on x4150?

2009-02-16 Thread Alexander Vlasov
Hello, this is known P2 bug, see http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=6331 Actually nwam fails and machin doesn't boots up into normal state. Kristian Rink wrote: Folks; trying to boot (or even install) a recent OpenSolaris build (off genunix.org) on an x4150 machine, but so far

Re: [osol-discuss] Phoronix Linux vs OpenSolaris benchmark

2009-02-16 Thread ken mays
Nice review and gives us a perspective on how things are performing on OpenSolaris at this time. As you know, there are inconsistencies in the testing. OpenSolaris binaries are not all built against GCC (or Sun Studio 11/12) and the installed dependency packages differ greatly in versions. Yo

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris install on x4150?

2009-02-16 Thread Kristian Rink
Hi Martin; and first off thanks a bunch for your hint. Martin Bochnig schrieb: [...] > Hello, as far as I know Indiana still lacks a text/console mode installer. > However, in case your box has whatever graphics card you can simply > use the vesa driver (as replacement for a native driver, which

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris install on x4150?

2009-02-16 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Kristian Rink wrote: > Folks; > > trying to boot (or even install) a recent OpenSolaris build (off > genunix.org) on an x4150 machine, but so far failed in a rather simple way: > Booting up the machine using the live medium works well, but in the end, a > text base

[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris install on x4150?

2009-02-16 Thread Kristian Rink
Folks; trying to boot (or even install) a recent OpenSolaris build (off genunix.org) on an x4150 machine, but so far failed in a rather simple way: Booting up the machine using the live medium works well, but in the end, a text based console is all I eventually get on this machine, also no message

Re: [osol-discuss] OS laptop operates with lid closed?

2009-02-16 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Chris Mahan wrote: > Question: Does anyone know if it would be possible to run opensolaris on a > laptop (sucha as an Acer Aspire One) and have it continue to run normally > when the lid was closed? > > > > > Chris Mahan > chris.ma...@gmail.com > grandcentral (818

Re: [osol-discuss] OS laptop operates with lid closed?

2009-02-16 Thread Joerg Schilling
Chris Mahan wrote: > Question: Does anyone know if it would be possible to run opensolaris on a > laptop (sucha as an Acer Aspire One) and have it continue to run normally > when the lid was closed? if a laptop does an auto-shutdown when closing the screen, there is usually a BIOS menue to swoth

Re: [osol-discuss] OS laptop operates with lid closed?

2009-02-16 Thread Alfred Peng
If the laptop doesn't support power suspend/resume yet or the action for "When laptop lid is closed" in power management preference isn't set to suspend/shutdown, the laptop should run continuously in this case. -Alfred Chris Mahan wrote: Question: Does anyone know if it would be possible to r

Re: [osol-discuss] OS laptop operates with lid closed?

2009-02-16 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Chris Mahan wrote: > Question: Does anyone know if it would be possible to run opensolaris on a > laptop (sucha as an Acer Aspire One) and have it continue to run normally > when the lid was closed? > > > > > Chris Mahan > chris.ma...@gmail.com > grandcentral (818

Re: [osol-discuss] Phoronix Linux vs OpenSolaris benchmark

2009-02-16 Thread przemolicc
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 09:20:34AM +, Tomasz Kloczko wrote: > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_shanghai_opensolaris > > Any comments? You have many comments and discussion at http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15321#post61968 Regards Przemyslaw Bak (pr

[osol-discuss] OS laptop operates with lid closed?

2009-02-16 Thread Chris Mahan
Question: Does anyone know if it would be possible to run opensolaris on a laptop (sucha as an Acer Aspire One) and have it continue to run normally when the lid was closed? Chris Mahan chris.ma...@gmail.com grandcentral (818) 671-1709 ___ opensolaris

Re: [osol-discuss] Phoronix Linux vs OpenSolaris benchmark

2009-02-16 Thread Casper . Dik
It's true on SPARC (not a whole lot of extra registers, except for a few fps), not true on Amd64. (Twice the registers, using the registers to call functions and not the stack) (Open)Solaris still runs on 32 bit machines; so we need to have 32 bit binaries for all commands. I don't know exactl

Re: [osol-discuss] Phoronix Linux vs OpenSolaris benchmark

2009-02-16 Thread Martin Bochnig
Also take into consideration, that 2008.11 still used Xorg server 1.3 (rather than 1.5.x), and that DRM is only available for a limited set of cards on opensolaris, and that - even on supported hw - direct rendering might not been have enabled by default. (Whereas on modern Linux distros all those

Re: [osol-discuss] Phoronix Linux vs OpenSolaris benchmark

2009-02-16 Thread Tomasz Kloczko
On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 10:37 +0100, casper@sun.com wrote: > There are too many variables; e.g., how is the GraphicsMagick compiled > and run? > > Also, if they are running the standard Solaris software, OpenSolaris may > hurt because most of the software is 32 bit. Interesting .. IIRC one of

Re: [osol-discuss] Phoronix Linux vs OpenSolaris benchmark

2009-02-16 Thread Casper . Dik
There are too many variables; e.g., how is the GraphicsMagick compiled and run? Also, if they are running the standard Solaris software, OpenSolaris may hurt because most of the software is 32 bit. Casper ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensola

Re: [osol-discuss] Phoronix Linux vs OpenSolaris benchmark

2009-02-16 Thread Tomasz Kloczko
On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 09:20 +, Tomasz Kloczko wrote: > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_shanghai_opensolaris > > Any comments? Mine comments is: I know that some differences are result of using different versions of gcc (gcc 4.x on Linux and 3.x on OpenSolaris). Questio

Re: [osol-discuss] Phoronix Linux vs OpenSolaris benchmark

2009-02-16 Thread Damian Wojslaw
Tomasz Kloczko pisze: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_shanghai_opensolaris Any comments? Tomasz Of course. In my opinion OpenSolaris makes up in scalability and stability, what it "looses" in speed in those tests. Also, in everyday work I can't tell speed difference

[osol-discuss] Phoronix Linux vs OpenSolaris benchmark

2009-02-16 Thread Tomasz Kloczko
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_shanghai_opensolaris Any comments? Tomasz -- Tomasz Kloczko Senior System Administrator, Tiscali UK Ltd ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org