Re: [osol-discuss] Start Using SX*E, Or Just Wait?

2007-11-09 Thread Patrick Finch
Robert Mazur wrote: Thank you for your detailed response! More in-line responses from me below. When you installed, did you explicitly choose Developer Edition? I think that you can choose between Developer Edition and Community Edition on the same image. If you don't have NetBeans,

Re: [osol-discuss] A proposal for ensuring sustained Community Growth and Success

2007-11-06 Thread Patrick Finch
Shawn Walker wrote: This proposal is intended to provoke productive discussion, surrounding our current governance structure, by highlighting some of the deficiencies that currently exist. While not exhaustive, it attempts to explain why the current governance structure is insufficient for

Re: [osol-discuss] Lines of Code

2007-10-01 Thread Patrick Finch
Jim Grisanzio wrote: Edward Pilatowicz wrote: On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 06:57:08AM +0530, Anil Gulecha wrote: On 9/29/07, Scott Rotondo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Grisanzio wrote: hey ... anyone have an updated count of the number of lines of code in the OpenSolaris source? Jim

Re: [osol-discuss] Open Solaris Express Edition and Open Solaris Express Developper Edition.

2007-08-02 Thread Patrick Finch
Hi, As far as I know, Developer Edition contains NetBeans and Sun Studio (that is, they install immediately after Solaris Express) and, as you point out, the installation is slightly more graphical. Express gives you the whole GNOME environment. regards, Patrick Bruno wrote: Hello,

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-07-31 Thread Patrick Finch
Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 22:38 -0700, Korey Peters wrote: I think the 40% was a rectum pluck rather than it being a fixed number on which OpenSolaris should aim. I mean, if you look at Mac, their marketshare is below 10% and yet has a bigger selection of software than

Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

2007-07-31 Thread Patrick Finch
Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 10:45 +0200, Patrick Finch wrote: Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 22:38 -0700, Korey Peters wrote: I think the 40% was a rectum pluck rather than it being a fixed number on which OpenSolaris should aim. I mean, if you look at Mac

Re: [osol-discuss] Changing a host name

2007-07-06 Thread Patrick Finch
Boyd Adamson wrote: Carlton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All I want to do is change the host name on my laptop. Numerous searches turn up to simply change the /etc/host file, but it is read only and won't accept the change. The man pages say not to use sysidconfig manually, so I don't know

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: RE: And that would break... what, exactly?

2007-05-21 Thread Patrick Finch
Funny isn't it? I with my Solaris/UNIX knowledge can easily figure out and use any Linux system, but the same does not hold true the other way around. At least not in most cases, as we can clearly see from comments and questions here on opensolaris.org. Hmmm, now why would that be the

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: RE: And that would break... what, exactly?

2007-05-21 Thread Patrick Finch
I think we risk confusing the strength of the admin with a strength of the platform. Latin scholars make great linguists, after all. Patrick Andre van Eyssen wrote: On Mon, 21 May 2007, Patrick Finch wrote: If I understand correctly, you are saying that a Solaris user can become a Linux

Re: [osol-discuss] Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

2007-05-16 Thread Patrick Finch
I checked http://docs.opensolaris.org/ and http://www.opensolaris.org/docs but there wasn't anything there. I think we really need a newbie portal. (and link to it from everywhere) I totally agree: this is no criticism of what OpenSolaris.org has become, but it resembles http://www.tux.org/

Re: [osol-discuss] Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

2007-05-15 Thread Patrick Finch
I'd say the only marketing voice that counts for OpenSolaris is that of the Marketing Community here on OpenSolaris.org (of which Sun's marketing is but a member). The OpenSolaris marketing community has never done anything on the lines of product management to my knowledge, but rather,

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

2007-05-10 Thread Patrick Finch
Agreed. From the articles in question: As we make Solaris more familiar to Linux users, we don't (want to) lose what makes it more compelling and competitive, Murdock said MC wrote: I like to believe that Sun's aim is to make Solaris a better operating system. You must keep your head

Re: [osol-discuss] News

2007-05-02 Thread Patrick Finch
It's my fault...I was updating it and I hadn't got round to for a while. I will try to fix that this week. thanks for your patience! Patrick Doug Scott wrote: Hey, Just looking on the front page of the Open Solaris site showed the latest news is dated 03/09/2007. Is this a case of there

Re: [osol-discuss] What happened to free_open_licensing.pdf

2007-04-27 Thread Patrick Finch
Hi Jörg, It's here http://www.sun.com/software/opensource/whitepapers/Sun_Microsystems_OpenSource_Licensing.pdf Can I ask where that URL came from? I guess it should be updated. regards Patrick Joerg Schilling wrote: Hi all, it seems that Simon Phipps whitepaper

Re: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] You are Invited! Birthday Blog Party on June 14th!

2006-06-08 Thread Patrick Finch
Not preempting Laura or Sara, I'd offer that posting a blurb on your company's website would be excellent (Sun.com will be doing something similar), and you could possibly embelish it with a button: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/buttons/ Patrick Dan Price wrote: On Wed 07 Jun 2006 at

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Sun lost one of it's biggest and oldest x86

2006-06-05 Thread Patrick Finch
Hi, Of course there is interest! Thanks for all your thoughts and offers. Teresa and I will discuss and will be back in touch with you. To an extent, some marketing money is spent on education already, although not in the direct education credits manner that you suggest. It should be

Re: [osol-discuss] [Fwd: OpenSolaris attacked by Novell]

2006-04-19 Thread patrick finch
Subject: OpenSolaris attacked by Novell From: patrick finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:00:58 +0200 To: Laura Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sara Dornsife [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Laura Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sara Dornsife [EMAIL PROTECTED] fyi http://australianit.news.com.au

[osol-discuss] Fwd: OpenSolaris @ CeBIT2006

2006-02-22 Thread Patrick Finch
Hi, In case anyone missed this, there will be an OpenSolaris community day at CeBIT on the 12th March. The details are below. A couple of tips: The registration page is http://de.sun.com/company/events/2006/cebit/community/index.html, and is in German. Click Anmeldung to register.

[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris at FOSDEM

2006-02-15 Thread Patrick Finch
All, OpenSolaris will be at FOSDEM in Brussels, Belgium on the weekend of the 25-26th February. The event site is here, http://www.fosdem.org/2006 and is free to attend, although donations are welcome for what is described as the best Free and Open Source Software Event in Europe. Sun is

[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris feature on LugRadio

2005-11-23 Thread Patrick Finch
Hi, For those interested, Adam Leventhal was interviewed on the British podcasting Linux / open source radio show LugRadio this week. He discusses OpenSolaris, and how it contrasts with Linux. You can hear the interview here: http://www.lugradio.org/ regards Patrick

Re: [osol-discuss] community proposal: Linux Immigrants

2005-11-04 Thread Patrick Finch
Understood. I'm thinking about people migrating from Linux, but rather, present Linux users. I think that an obvious starting place for a Linux user who visits OpenSolaris.org but does not consider themselves an immigrant might be a good idea. So I was not suggesting a hostile act, but a

Re: [osol-discuss] community proposal: Linux Immigrants

2005-11-03 Thread Patrick Finch
In my opinion, a big part of the value of this community will be that it helps to explain the relevance of OpenSolaris to the wider Linux community. Extending the scope beyond Linux immigrants could threaten that. Patrick Stephen Hahn wrote: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [osol-discuss] community proposal: Linux Immigrants

2005-11-03 Thread Patrick Finch
Just to clarify: I'm don't mean the value of OpenSolaris as a whole (!), but the value of a specific discussion group within OpenSolaris.org. When I talk about a wider audience, I mean that there are a lot of people who have little or no consciousness of OpenSolaris or any of its

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: New mailing list proposal

2005-08-25 Thread patrick finch
Hi, I think that Jim G is already working this based on Simon's input As I recall: -mailing list for announcements -moderated -moderator would also post most important announcements to opensolaris.org Patrick Bob Palowoda wrote: Hi all, With the traffic that's being generated by the lack

[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris community activity - some volumes

2005-08-19 Thread patrick finch
All, For those interested, some measurements of the last 2 months' activity on OpenSolaris.org. Weeks are defined as follows (Opening Day was a Tuesday, hence weeks run Tuesday-Monday!) WeekStart-End 1 06/14/05-06/20/05 2 06/21/05-06/27/05 3 06/28/05-07/04/05 4

[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Metrics - looking for input

2005-07-15 Thread Patrick Finch
All, I wanted to flag to the community that I will be developing a metrics package to be published eventually somewhere on OpenSolaris.org. I already have a few key measures ready, such as volumes of page views, numbers of community members, number of discussion posts etc., but I really would