Re: [osol-discuss] OT: Formatting Problem of ZFS Adm Guide (pdf)

2008-09-03 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
so youngsters?? For a hardcore OpenSolaris user who uses nothing but and who has to constantly consult the userguides, not being able to read them is a major impediment. Freedom is not cherished until it's lost. Now I am free, again, not to use anything else! As someone else mentioned in a

Re: [osol-discuss] OT: Formatting Problem of ZFS Adm Guide (pdf)

2008-09-02 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
I have cleaned up the original pdf file. Please see: http://tinyurl.com/zfs-pdf The invisible parts (original) are now visible (corrected). It is not too difficult a job. Just wish that we can be more thoughtful. The only people affected are us hard-core OpenSolaris users. -- This message

Re: [osol-discuss] OT: Formatting Problem of ZFS Adm Guide (pdf)

2008-09-02 Thread john kroll
so youngsters?? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] OT: Formatting Problem of ZFS Adm Guide (pdf)

2008-08-31 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
This is a freetype problem, and such problems can impact anything. Nevada builds are anything but lightly tested developer snapshots. They didn't even introduce the problem - freetype folks did! Hi Akhilesh, Me again. I understand this can be blamed as a freetype problem, but it is really

Re: [osol-discuss] OT: Formatting Problem of ZFS Adm Guide (pdf)

2008-08-31 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Just realized that with all my innuendos and wild suggestions, I failed to comment on the quality of the documents themselves. This issue is particularly worth mentioning because (I don't know about you but) I am very impressed with the quality, especially readability, of Sun's new generation

Re: [osol-discuss] OT: Formatting Problem of ZFS Adm Guide (pdf)

2008-08-28 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Hi Waynel Please don't get me wrong. I myself am responsible for driving openoffice adoption at my work place. I myself have gone from wordstar to word perfect (5.02) to word and then I used star office before openoffice existed. But because I have also worked with documentation team, I

Re: [osol-discuss] OT: Formatting Problem of ZFS Adm Guide (pdf)

2008-08-28 Thread Paul Gress
W. Wayne Liauh wrote: Hi Waynel Please don't get me wrong. I myself am responsible for driving openoffice adoption at my work place. I myself have gone from wordstar to word perfect (5.02) to word and then I used star office before openoffice existed. But because I have also worked with

Re: [osol-discuss] OT: Formatting Problem of ZFS Adm Guide (pdf)

2008-08-27 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Please read Akhilesh's answer carefully and stop repeating the same thing. Staroffice is to Latex/Framemaker what a mid-size sedan is to an 18-wheeler. To the untrained eye, they appear to perform similar actions, but the actual overlap is really small. Sorry, can't help it. :-)

Re: [osol-discuss] OT: Formatting Problem of ZFS Adm Guide (pdf)

2008-08-27 Thread Akhilesh Mritunjai
I don't doubt the superiority of LaTex/Framemaker in conjunction with Distiller in producing (the pdf versions of) nicely typeset books and brochures. But how good is a tool if it produces a product that its intended users can NOT read? This is what prompted You seem to have missed the

Re: [osol-discuss] OT: Formatting Problem of ZFS Adm Guide (pdf)

2008-08-27 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
I don't doubt the superiority of LaTex/Framemaker in conjunction with Distiller in producing (the pdf versions of) nicely typeset books and brochures. But how good is a tool if it produces a product that its intended users can NOT read? This is what prompted You seem to have

Re: [osol-discuss] OT: Formatting Problem of ZFS Adm Guide (pdf)

2008-08-27 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
And I don't like it a bit; it is very good in generating documents for documentation purposes but IMO it often causes the authors to loose human touch. loose should be --lose--. The choice of the writing tool (in this case, the Jive) strongly affects how one writes. I don't like Jive, and

Re: [osol-discuss] OT: Formatting Problem of ZFS Adm Guide (pdf)

2008-08-27 Thread Akhilesh Mritunjai
Hi Waynel Please don't get me wrong. I myself am responsible for driving openoffice adoption at my work place. I myself have gone from wordstar to word perfect (5.02) to word and then I used star office before openoffice existed. But because I have also worked with documentation team, I have