Re: [osol-discuss] build 130 nonsense

2010-01-07 Thread Shawn Walker
On 01/ 7/10 04:20 AM, Bob Palowoda wrote: Actually it would work better if the common installed base was quite large to begin with. :) I'm just curious how data is collected on other distributions of opensolaris initial installs and if it's combined in with the you mentioned. One obvious one

Re: [osol-discuss] build 130 nonsense

2010-01-07 Thread Bob Palowoda
> On 01/ 5/10 12:19 PM, andrew wrote: > > That's interesting - I guess you do need an on-disk > format for that. There are two obvious use cases for > a file-based package: 1 is to do an OS install, the > other is to just add packages to a system after you > download them. It is sometimes quicker t

Re: [osol-discuss] build 130 nonsense

2010-01-06 Thread Shawn Walker
On 01/ 5/10 12:19 PM, andrew wrote: That's interesting - I guess you do need an on-disk format for that. There are two obvious use cases for a file-based package: 1 is to do an OS install, the other is to just add packages to a system after you download them. It is sometimes quicker to downloa

Re: [osol-discuss] build 130 nonsense

2010-01-06 Thread Shawn Walker
On 01/ 5/10 05:12 AM, andrew wrote: I haven't looked at the code but I was kind of assuming that I wouldn't need to implement an on-disk format - just replace code to suck files off the network with code to fetch them off disk. However, I have absolutely no knowledge of how any of it actually

Re: [osol-discuss] build 130 nonsense

2010-01-05 Thread andrew
> On 01/ 5/10 06:12 AM, andrew wrote: > >> > >> On Jan 3, 2010, at 6:53 AM, andrew wrote: > >> > On 01/ 1/10 10:36 AM, andrew wrote: > > Sorry - my mistake. Still looking for ability > to > install from local files though. ;-) > > You can do that now as long as you're willin

Re: [osol-discuss] build 130 nonsense

2010-01-05 Thread Dave Miner
On 01/ 5/10 06:12 AM, andrew wrote: On Jan 3, 2010, at 6:53 AM, andrew wrote: On 01/ 1/10 10:36 AM, andrew wrote: Sorry - my mistake. Still looking for ability to install from local files though. ;-) You can do that now as long as you're willing to run a depot server (which is a very ligh

Re: [osol-discuss] build 130 nonsense

2010-01-05 Thread andrew
> > On Jan 3, 2010, at 6:53 AM, andrew wrote: > > >> On 01/ 1/10 10:36 AM, andrew wrote: > >>> Sorry - my mistake. Still looking for ability to > >> install from local files though. ;-) > >> > >> You can do that now as long as you're willing to > run > >> a depot server > >> (which is a very li

Re: [osol-discuss] build 130 nonsense

2010-01-05 Thread Shawn Walker
On Jan 3, 2010, at 6:53 AM, andrew wrote: >> On 01/ 1/10 10:36 AM, andrew wrote: >>> Sorry - my mistake. Still looking for ability to >> install from local files though. ;-) >> >> You can do that now as long as you're willing to run >> a depot server >> (which is a very light-weight easy to sta

Re: [osol-discuss] build 130 nonsense

2010-01-04 Thread Anon Y Mous
> Thanks for the info. However, I am still surprised that there is no ability > to install from local files > as we approach for 4th release. On the face of it, it would seem an easy > thing to add. I guess > if I really needed it I could add it myself. Yes! Look at people who are coming over

Re: [osol-discuss] build 130 nonsense

2010-01-03 Thread andrew
> On 01/ 1/10 10:36 AM, andrew wrote: > > Sorry - my mistake. Still looking for ability to > install from local files though. ;-) > > You can do that now as long as you're willing to run > a depot server > (which is a very light-weight easy to start/run > process). > > However, if you're wanting

Re: [osol-discuss] build 130 nonsense

2010-01-01 Thread Shawn Walker
On 01/ 1/10 10:36 AM, andrew wrote: Sorry - my mistake. Still looking for ability to install from local files though. ;-) You can do that now as long as you're willing to run a depot server (which is a very light-weight easy to start/run process). However, if you're wanting to install "from

Re: [osol-discuss] build 130 nonsense

2010-01-01 Thread andrew
> andrew wrote: > >> We've never had 2 copies of all the packages on > the > >> live CD - why do you think > >> there are? > > > > Because I was under the impression that there are > two copies of each piece of software on the live CD - > executable directly from the CD and as cpio archives > for

Re: [osol-discuss] build 130 nonsense

2009-12-30 Thread Alan Coopersmith
andrew wrote: >> We've never had 2 copies of all the packages on the >> live CD - why do you think >> there are? > > Because I was under the impression that there are two copies of each piece of > software on the live CD - executable directly from the CD and as cpio > archives for installation.

Re: [osol-discuss] build 130 nonsense

2009-12-30 Thread Shawn Walker
On 12/30/09 07:01 AM, andrew wrote: We've never had 2 copies of all the packages on the live CD - why do you think there are? Because I was under the impression that there are two copies of each piece of software on the live CD - executable directly from the CD and as cpio archives for instal

Re: [osol-discuss] build 130 nonsense

2009-12-30 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> I really need to get on with my honours project - > which is on Solaris Zones btw. Instead I've spent the > past day filing nice new bugs in OpenSolaris. I guess > that's the price I pay for being on the bleeding > edge. ;-) > > Cheers > > Andrew. My take is, thanks to AlanC's info in a separa

Re: [osol-discuss] build 130 nonsense

2009-12-30 Thread Norm Jacobs
andrew wrote: andrew wrote: So OpenSolaris 2010.02 will not even support printing out of the box, I now need to download and install several meg of packages just to print? Of course 2010.03 will support printing - is your problem a printer not supported by the included CUPS drive

Re: [osol-discuss] build 130 nonsense

2009-12-30 Thread andrew
> On 12/30/09 08:01 AM, andrew wrote: > > > > My problem is that the "print manager" entry on the > administration menu is now dead - nothing ever > appears after clicking on it and there is no obvious > way to get access to the GUI administration for > printing. The novice user is therefore stuck

Re: [osol-discuss] build 130 nonsense

2009-12-30 Thread John Martin
On 12/30/09 08:01 AM, andrew wrote: My problem is that the "print manager" entry on the administration menu is now dead - nothing ever appears after clicking on it and there is no obvious way to get access to the GUI administration for printing. The novice user is therefore stuck with no obvi

Re: [osol-discuss] build 130 nonsense

2009-12-30 Thread andrew
> > > andrew wrote: > > So OpenSolaris 2010.02 will not even support > printing out of the box, I now need to download and > install several meg of packages just to print? > > Of course 2010.03 will support printing - is your > problem a printer not > supported by the included CUPS drivers? My

Re: [osol-discuss] build 130 nonsense

2009-12-29 Thread Alan Coopersmith
andrew wrote: > So OpenSolaris 2010.02 will not even support printing out of the box, I now > need to download and install several meg of packages just to print? Of course 2010.03 will support printing - is your problem a printer not supported by the included CUPS drivers? > We've had 3 relea

[osol-discuss] build 130 nonsense

2009-12-29 Thread andrew
So OpenSolaris 2010.02 will not even support printing out of the box, I now need to download and install several meg of packages just to print? And I can't select UK locale either. What the hell is going on here? We've had 3 releases of OpenSolaris already and we've still got 2 copies of all the