Re: [osol-discuss] open source process

2005-07-26 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For ksh88 there is no legal source and from my understanding there is not even the possibility to redistribute binaries. I am surprised that ksh88 isn't part of the ATT deal (Toolchest origin is separate, perhaps?) I was on the other side surprized to see

Re: [osol-discuss] open source process

2005-07-26 Thread Eric Boutilier
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005, Roy T. Fielding wrote: [ ... ] My participation in OpenSolaris is conditioned on a number of statements by Sun regarding the nature of this project... Could you elaborate, please? I think we should ensure that Sun's current policy towards the the OpenSolaris project still

[osol-discuss] open source process

2005-07-25 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 25, 2005, at 10:43 AM, John Beck wrote: The first is that all the mechanisms which you rail against are in fact how things work now. Yes. I intend to change that. Your statement of how things should work matches my understanding of how things ought to work in the *long* term, but we

Re: [osol-discuss] open source process

2005-07-25 Thread Keith M Wesolowski
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 12:30:19PM -0700, Roy T. Fielding wrote: OpenSolaris is intended to be a collaborative project. In order to collaborate with the rest of the world, future progress has to be made in public, using public tools, on public work products. Any code that is not open source

Re: [osol-discuss] open source process

2005-07-25 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 15:30, Roy T. Fielding wrote: What exactly is blocking us from creating a directory containing ksh93 code Nothing. We should probably import ksh93 as ksh93 sooner rather than later. and making it the current ksh for OpenSolaris? One of the goals for opensolaris is

Re: [osol-discuss] open source process

2005-07-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
Bryan Cantrill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I went googling for differences and found a pretty significant one: It looks like ksh88 uses dynamic scoping while ksh93 uses lexical scoping. As I understand it, a similar disagreement caused something of a schism within the lisp community.

Re: [osol-discuss] open source process

2005-07-25 Thread John Plocher
Joerg Schilling wrote: Let me note about another problem: I did try to discuss important issues several times and have been ignored. Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. Ignored sounds so premeditated and malicious; more likely the lack of response