Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: GUI SMF Tools

2006-04-27 Thread David Powell
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 11:06:30AM +0100, Darren J Moffat wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>Besides, doing this in java isn't all that hard. The downside > >>is the memory footprint. > > > >One issue with running the GUI in Java is getting the security > >and authentication right; this often re

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: GUI SMF Tools

2006-04-27 Thread Darren J Moffat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Besides, doing this in java isn't all that hard. The downside is the memory footprint. One issue with running the GUI in Java is getting the security and authentication right; this often requires "roll-your-own" which is way too hard for most to get right. Which is wh

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: GUI SMF Tools

2006-04-26 Thread David Powell
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 03:53:38PM -0700, Erast Benson wrote: > > We actually think it would be really valuable for people to be able > > to configure an OpenSolaris box from another machine using the same > > interface they're accustomed to using on console. You could > > accomplish this

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: GUI SMF Tools

2006-04-26 Thread Erast Benson
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 15:19 -0700, David Powell wrote: > On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 01:45:35AM -0700, Erast Benson wrote: > > Don't you think using Java for this kind of things a bit of overhead? > > Its not like this app will be running on OSX or Windows.. why bother > > with Java then? > > We act

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: GUI SMF Tools

2006-04-26 Thread David Powell
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 01:45:35AM -0700, Erast Benson wrote: > Don't you think using Java for this kind of things a bit of overhead? > Its not like this app will be running on OSX or Windows.. why bother > with Java then? We actually think it would be really valuable for people to be able to

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: GUI SMF Tools

2006-04-26 Thread David Powell
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 01:31:23AM -0700, Bob Palowoda wrote: > > Though the ultimate goal is to do a lot more, the prototype for the > > Visual Panels project (screenshots, demo, and source at > > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/vpanels/ > > ) currently contains a basic SMF GUI. Please

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: GUI SMF Tools

2006-04-26 Thread Peter Tribble
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 12:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Besides, doing this in java isn't all that hard. The downside > >is the memory footprint. > > One issue with running the GUI in Java is getting the security > and authentication right; this often requires "roll-your-own" which > is way too h

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: GUI SMF Tools

2006-04-26 Thread Casper . Dik
>Besides, doing this in java isn't all that hard. The downside >is the memory footprint. One issue with running the GUI in Java is getting the security and authentication right; this often requires "roll-your-own" which is way too hard for most to get right. Casper __

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: GUI SMF Tools

2006-04-26 Thread Peter Tribble
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 09:45, Erast Benson wrote: > > > Though the ultimate goal is to do a lot more, the > > > prototype for the > > > Visual Panels project (screenshots, demo, and source > > > at > > > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/vpanels/ > > > currently contains a basic SMF GUI.

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: GUI SMF Tools

2006-04-26 Thread Erast Benson
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 01:31 -0700, Bob Palowoda wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 10:40:18PM -0700, changho.kim > > wrote: > > > Solaris have tools to control service by system. > > > That's called SMF > > > This is important role of self healing but every > > solaris beginner > > > have difficult

[osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: GUI SMF Tools

2006-04-26 Thread Bob Palowoda
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 10:40:18PM -0700, changho.kim > wrote: > > Solaris have tools to control service by system. > > That's called SMF > > This is important role of self healing but every > solaris beginner > > have difficulty in input command by keyboard. > > if user don't familiar with keybo