Re: [osol-discuss] upgrading to solaris 10 10/05 from 03/05

2005-10-23 Thread Erast Benson
Debian GNU/Solaris will offer similar options as a standard Debian Update feature. It will also bring full set of graphical tools, such as integrated into GNOME desktop update-notifier, Synaptic, etc. First Alpha release is planned at November. Erast On Sun, 2005-10-23 at 16:13 +0530, Nikhil

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: SchilliX-0.2 ready, but SchilliX (the project) needs help

2005-10-23 Thread Erast Benson
Guys, let me clarify a little bit on what GNU/Solaris distro is. The idea behind it is simple: do not re-invent the wheel and try to re-use existing 17000 high quality Debian packages, Debian infrastracture(read Dpkg, APT repositories, Debootstraps, installation program, utilities, developer's

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: SchilliX-0.2 ready, but SchilliX (the project) needs help

2005-10-25 Thread Erast Benson
On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 15:20 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: let me clarify a little bit on what GNU/Solaris distro is. Thank you! The idea behind it is simple: do not re-invent the wheel and try to re-use existing 17000 high quality Debian

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: SchilliX-0.2 ready, but SchilliX (the project) needs help

2005-10-25 Thread Erast Benson
Very valid point. Would be nice if all opensolaris-based distros could guarantee to run unmodified C binaries. There are quite a few ways to achive that. Erast On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 11:22 -0700, John Plocher wrote: Erast Benson and Joerg Schilling were discussing GNU/Solaris: GNU/Solaris

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: SchilliX-0.2 ready, but SchilliX (the project) needs help

2005-10-25 Thread Erast Benson
On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 23:10 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: John Plocher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you put them into /usr/bin, you will overwrite existing standard UNIX tools This points out some large differences in people's perceptions of what is a Solaris app? One perspective is

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: SchilliX-0.2 ready, but SchilliX (the project) needs help

2005-10-26 Thread Erast Benson
On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 18:42 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: virtually, all our distros based on the same core bits - sunw*. We are planning quite a bit of work there. So, all these beginnings, (i.e. SchiliX, BeliniX) are very good for overall progress. After all, thanks to GPL/CDDL. It

Re: [osol-discuss] community proposal: Linux Immigrants

2005-10-28 Thread Erast Benson
On Fri, 2005-10-28 at 09:07 -0700, Adam Leventhal wrote: On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 12:32:42PM +1300, Glynn Foster wrote: I'm not sure it's so urgent that we need to have a temporary solution. Let's make the community, start the discussion and then build the wiki as a result of that

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [gnu-sol-discuss] Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program

2005-11-01 Thread Erast Benson
On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 23:25 -0600, James Dickens wrote: 3) Developer's portal at http://www.gnusolaris.org - fully functional, with downloads, APT repository, discussion forums, developer's hack zone, bug database, blogs, and numerous Solaris and free software resources. something is

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [gnu-sol-discuss] Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program

2005-11-01 Thread Erast Benson
On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 01:29 -0600, James Dickens wrote: On 11/2/05, Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 23:25 -0600, James Dickens wrote: 3) Developer's portal at http://www.gnusolaris.org - fully functional, with downloads, APT repository, discussion forums

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program

2005-11-02 Thread Erast Benson
Now we put some more information on the authentication dialog. We are sorry we didn't do that at the first place... well. We were too busy with other issues. So, next time you click on http://www.gnusolaris.org you will see Welcome to GNU/Solaris pilot program! banner and information on how to

Re: [osol-discuss] Genunix Nexenta Mirror

2005-11-07 Thread Erast Benson
Fast mirror is up: http://www.genunix.org/distributions/gnusolaris/ Both images (LiveCD and Install) are there. Thanks a lot! We have propagated link on /Download page as well as through the auto-balancer script. Erast ___ opensolaris-discuss

[osol-discuss] Rebooting system when PS2 mouse plugged

2005-11-10 Thread Erast Benson
Someone opened a bug at NBTS: http://www.gnusolaris.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/52 Any ideas or workarounds? Just hoping that this issue is well know and got fixed in recent builds. PS: I don't know which mailing lists to use in case of bug reports like this one, so, I'm posting here. Thanks,

Re: [osol-discuss] Anyone succeded in porting xine to Nevada?

2005-11-13 Thread Erast Benson
In Nexenta we have it: % apt-cache search xine libxine1c2 - the xine video/media player library, binary files xdmx - Distributed Multi-head X server libxinerama-dev - X11 Xinerama extension library (development headers) libxinerama1-dbg - X11 Xinerama extension library (debug package)

Re: [osol-discuss] App porting forum?

2005-11-14 Thread Erast Benson
Alfredo, One of the goals of GNU/OpenSolaris project is to track all changes and bugs progress on porting/enhancing OSS projects which are not distributed by SUN but part of any regular GNU/Linux distribution like Ubuntu, Fedora, etc. GNU/OpenSolaris web development portal provide Subversion

Re: [osol-discuss] Is 'forking' inevitable here too?

2005-11-15 Thread Erast Benson
Very good point and a right concern (to some degree) IMHO... As J.S. mentioned before, in the future we should expect at least 2 types of OpenSolaris-based distros: a) GNU-centric, those who trying to re-use GNU/Linux as much as possible b) Solaris-centric, those who trying to mimic Solaris as

Re: [osol-discuss] App porting forum?

2005-11-15 Thread Erast Benson
, i.e. for instance neon: $ dpkg -s libneon23 libneon24 | grep ^Package: Package: libneon23 Package: libneon24 Erast Please correct me if I'm wrong. Regards, Alf Erast Benson wrote: Alfredo, One of the goals of GNU/OpenSolaris project is to track all changes and bugs progress

Re: [osol-discuss] Is 'forking' inevitable here too?

2005-11-15 Thread Erast Benson
On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 11:26 -0600, David Schanen wrote: On 11/15/05, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very good point and a right concern (to some degree) IMHO... As J.S. mentioned before, in the future we should expect at least 2 types

[osol-discuss] Re: [Nexenta Bug Tracking System] #52: Rebooting system when PS2 mouse plugged

2005-11-15 Thread Erast Benson
I wonder if we could link NBTS with OpenSolaris's bugzilla the way we are integrating with Ubuntu's Launchpad? This way, once bugzilla' bug marked as fixed, the notification could be sent to NBTS to synchronize. At any rate, would be nice to have somewhat integrated solution between core

Re: [osol-discuss] Is 'forking' inevitable here too?

2005-11-16 Thread Erast Benson
On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 18:36 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: very true. dpkg's alternatives is a good thing. Also there are other ways to achive that, i.e. playing with execv() for instance. Did you hack libc to do this? No. not yet. But at least we've

Re: [osol-discuss] App porting forum?

2005-11-16 Thread Erast Benson
On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 17:09 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Alfredo Peña [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erast, Thanks for your offer, but I'm trying to target Sun Solaris distro. Probably for most software developing in Nexenta is the same than developing in Solaris, but for something like

Re: [osol-discuss] App porting forum?

2005-11-16 Thread Erast Benson
On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 19:59 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And just to notice, I think compilation of OpenSolaris on Nexenta is very possible, and will be available in Alpha 2 time frame. If you believe this, you did obviously never actually try

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Is 'forking' inevitable here too?

2005-11-17 Thread Erast Benson
Scott, I think /usr/X11 and missing xconfigure should be considered as a packaging bug or not-yet implemented feature. Nexenta Xorg should support 3td party drivers like recent Nvidia additions, etc. This could be easily entered as a feature request in NBTS. And someone will address it sooner or

Re: [osol-discuss] Nexenta OS (elatte) Alpha 1 released 2005-11-18 mini-review

2005-11-21 Thread Erast Benson
Good review. Thanks ken! One little thing, Nexenta Alpha 1 comes with non-debug kernel which makes Nexenta perfect platform for performance investigations. Erast On Mon, 2005-11-21 at 09:06 -0800, ken mays wrote: ref: http://www.gnusolaris.org/gswiki/Getting_Started Nexenta OS (elatte)

Re: [osol-discuss] application porting forum?

2005-11-21 Thread Erast Benson
On Sun, 2005-11-06 at 23:46 -0800, Dan Price wrote: On Thu 03 Nov 2005 at 07:39AM, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: Since I'm going to ask a question about some problems porting a particular app to [Open]Solaris (in another thread), it occurred to me: why not have a forum for that topic in

Re: [osol-discuss] Why not to use pkgsrc package system ?

2005-11-21 Thread Erast Benson
On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 00:29 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Alan DuBoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 21 November 2005 06:37 am, Patrick Mauritz wrote: On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 21:50, Alan DuBoff wrote: This is currently a problem with all of the distributions on

[osol-discuss] Hacking Nexenta article

2005-11-22 Thread Erast Benson
Guys, I just finished this article: http://www.gnusolaris.org/gswiki/Hacking_Nexenta it explains how to start hacking package with absolutely minimal efforts involved on Nexenta OS. Erast ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Is 'forking' inevitable here too?

2005-11-23 Thread Erast Benson
To me, it sounds like you lost the ground... Where are you? On Mars? So, how is the craters? :-) Have you ever noticed that GNU/Linux is everywhere? I'm still not so sure in bright OpenSolaris future because of 2 main non-thechnical reasons: a) mind set shift (GNU/Linux = */OpenSolaris) might

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Is 'forking' inevitable here too?

2005-11-23 Thread Erast Benson
On Wed, 2005-11-23 at 12:23 -0800, Rich Teer wrote: a) mind set shift (GNU/Linux = */OpenSolaris) might not happen at all or will take too much time to happen and than GNU/Linux will close the I agree that the mindset shift will take time. Right. that is precisely my point gap on server

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: OpenSolaris - Why should I care? More questions.

2005-11-27 Thread Erast Benson
On Sun, 2005-11-27 at 11:11 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. So far the discussion has only been about Solaris 10 or OpenSolaris. What about new distros such as Nexenta and BeleniX that retain only the Solaris kernel and core libraries? Pure Solaris is renowned for its stability; part of

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: OpenSolaris - Why should I care? More questions.

2005-11-27 Thread Erast Benson
On Sun, 2005-11-27 at 12:44 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The GNU utilities carry both a stability and compatibility risk. Nothing in Solaris proper can fix that. This statement true for any software in general, unless development is pretty much dead. :-) Perhaps I should have

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: OpenSolaris - Why should I care? More questions.

2005-11-27 Thread Erast Benson
On Sun, 2005-11-27 at 11:10 -0800, Rich Teer wrote: On Sun, 27 Nov 2005, Erast Benson wrote: Solaris 8,9,10,11 are different, and therefore carry the same risk for end user's apps. You're forgetting a rather important detail: Sun places a big emphasis on backwards compatibility, so

Re: [desktop-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [gnu-sol-discuss] Incorporating open-source cmds/libs into OpenSolaris

2005-11-29 Thread Erast Benson
On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 18:08 -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Bryan Cantrill wrote: Suffice it to say that we have learned the hard way: put it in /usr/bin unless there's a conflict that prevents it. Though I still get complaints about GNOME being in /usr/bin, since it makes it harder to

Re: [osol-discuss] Is distribution neutral application compatibility feasible?

2005-11-30 Thread Erast Benson
On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 15:24 -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Brian Nitz wrote: I have a Nexenta elatte gnusolaris partition alongside my NV_27a with a GNOME 2.12 JDS build. Nexenta is based on the same kernel code and also contains a GNOME 2.12 desktop. Unfortunately the binaries for the

[osol-discuss] Re: Opera 9 also works...

2005-12-07 Thread Erast Benson
Yep, this is what you get when you have stable API at the core and well builded and configured GNU userland. Welcome to Nexenta world! :-) I also cross-posting opensolaris-discuss@, so other folks will look at your screenshots and will see how fast Nexenta OS progressing! Thanks Pedro! On Thu,

Re: [osol-discuss] i nstalling opersolaris

2005-12-18 Thread Erast Benson
On Sun, 2005-12-18 at 10:58 -0800, thomas rinehart wrote: i have a p3 750 with 384 mb a 20 gig hd with win98,ubuntu5.10 and debian sarge all installed and working fine however when i try to install opensolaris the schllix distro it tells me i dont have enough memory im new to solaris and

Re: [osol-discuss] KDE, GNOME, etc.

2005-12-18 Thread Erast Benson
On Sun, 2005-12-18 at 15:53 -0500, Bill Rushmore wrote: On Sun, 2005-12-18 at 13:02, Gary Gendel wrote: Anyway, Linus has just opened another can of worms that directly effects OpenSolaris and JDS. I really don't see how this effects JDS or OpenSolaris. It just one guy's opinion not

Re: [osol-discuss] i nstalling opersolaris

2005-12-18 Thread Erast Benson
On Sun, 2005-12-18 at 13:15 -0800, Matt Ingenthron wrote: Erast Benson wrote: On Sun, 2005-12-18 at 10:58 -0800, thomas rinehart wrote: i have a p3 750 with 384 mb a 20 gig hd with win98,ubuntu5.10 and debian sarge all installed and working fine however when i try to install

Re: [osol-discuss] KDE, GNOME, etc.

2005-12-20 Thread Erast Benson
On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 16:52 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I woudn't underestimate Linus's Torvalds opinion... A lot of OSS developers looking at what he is saying and following him no matter what. I agree it will not change picture much, but KDE

Re: [osol-discuss] KDE, GNOME, etc.

2005-12-21 Thread Erast Benson
On Thu, 2005-12-22 at 00:47 +1100, Glynn Foster wrote: Hey, On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 02:30 -0800, Alan DuBoff wrote: On Tuesday 20 December 2005 08:37 pm, Glynn Foster wrote: Interesting. So you're going to swap your user base over to the KDE desktop? Or are you going to try and retro fit

Re: [osol-discuss] KDE, GNOME, etc.

2005-12-21 Thread Erast Benson
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 15:05 -0800, Alan DuBoff wrote: If you're missing something, an apt-get grabs it with the dependancies. This system works very well. The problem with Nexentra is that many of the standard packages of Debian are not ported at this time. They seem to have taken quite a

Re: [osol-discuss] NetBSD's pkgsrc on OpenSolaris

2005-12-28 Thread Erast Benson
On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 05:31 -0800, Roman wrote: OpenSolaris is pretty much useless on desktop if you can't run your favourite web browser, email client, etc. There are a few sites that offer precompiled Solaris native packages, but they are not as good as pkgsrc. Also Solaris native

[osol-discuss] NexentaOS GUI configuration tools fully ported

2005-12-28 Thread Erast Benson
Hi Guys, Just wanted to let you know that with help of system-tools-backends maintainers I was working on system-tools-backends and gnome-system-tools frontends to bring GUI tools up to the level when average user could easy configure NexentaOS, new exciting Ubuntu GNU/Solaris based operating

Re: [osol-discuss] NetBSD's pkgsrc on OpenSolaris

2005-12-29 Thread Erast Benson
On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 12:08 +, Roman Duka wrote: On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 09:40:20 -0800 Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 05:31 -0800, Roman wrote: OpenSolaris is pretty much useless on desktop if you can't run your favourite web browser, email client, etc

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: NetBSD's pkgsrc on OpenSolaris

2006-01-01 Thread Erast Benson
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 08:53 +0530, Moinak Ghosh wrote: Eric Boutilier wrote: pkgsrc on solaris looks very interesting to me, out of all the systems we have to choose from it seems to hit the sweet spot as far as my limited knowledge of pm goes... In light of all the recent work

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Companion CD [ was: KDE, GNOME, etc. ]

2006-01-02 Thread Erast Benson
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 11:44 -0500, Stefan Teleman wrote: On 1/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So can we change this now to Studio? One thing is C++ ABIs (and the complete lack of stability at the g++ side of the fence) but also the problem with gcc compiled shared

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: NetBSD's pkgsrc on OpenSolaris

2006-01-02 Thread Erast Benson
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 23:01 +0530, Moinak Ghosh wrote: Erast Benson wrote: On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 08:53 +0530, Moinak Ghosh wrote: The current dpkg repository that is available (Nexenta) is built for a GNU/Solaris setup and is not suitable for a Solaris compatible OpenSolaris

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Companion CD [ was: KDE, GNOME, etc. ]

2006-01-02 Thread Erast Benson
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 14:52 -0500, Stefan Teleman wrote: On 1/2/06, Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gcc-4.x branch has reworked optmizer for C++ and generates quite fast objects. yup. By any chance, do you have comparision links between Studio and gcc-4.x ? Latest issue

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Companion CD [ was: KDE, GNOME, etc. ]

2006-01-03 Thread Erast Benson
On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 08:30 -0600, David Schanen wrote: On 1/2/06, Stefan Teleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Things have probably changed since then as there were major compiler releases since then. Maybe it would be a good time to rerun it with Sun Studio 11 (-fast) and equivalent on gcc

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: NetBSD's pkgsrc on OpenSolaris

2006-01-04 Thread Erast Benson
On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 17:19 -0800, Mike Ditto wrote: Joerg Schilling wrote: Dave Miner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure what an OpenSolaris compliant sticker would be designed to achieve, though, or why SVR4 packages are necessarily a part of it. Well I hope that the proliferation of

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: NetBSD's pkgsrc on OpenSolaris

2006-01-05 Thread Erast Benson
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 14:41 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what package-level compatability you are talking about... Today, *Solaris software distributes in next ways: 1) source tarball 2) binary tarball 3) autoextracting scripts .sh

[osol-discuss] Mono .NET available on GNU/OpenSolaris!

2006-01-08 Thread Erast Benson
I spent some time on syncing/porting Mono friends from Ubuntu/Dapper and now we have all parts working and integrated into Nexenta GNU/OpenSolaris! Enjoy Mono .NET screenshot (at the bottom): http://www.gnusolaris.org/gswiki/ErastBenson You will see some popular latest/greatest C# applications

Re: [osol-discuss] Idea for a nice OpenSolaris project - HCL client

2006-01-15 Thread Erast Benson
On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 16:24 +1300, Glynn Foster wrote: Hey, So I recently installed Ubuntu 5.10 [Breezy], mostly as a way of playing with the Nokia 770 that I got sent. It's a pretty nice polished distribution, and would definitely be my Linux distribution of choice at the moment. Having

Re: [osol-discuss] Idea for a nice OpenSolaris project - HCL client

2006-01-15 Thread Erast Benson
On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 23:21 +1300, Glynn Foster wrote: Hi, On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 03:04 -0800, Erast Benson wrote: partially ported. The upload part doesn't work yet, i.e. it will require modifications on www.gnusolaris.org and setting up server-side script which will process data

Re: [osol-discuss] Idea for a nice OpenSolaris project - HCL client

2006-01-15 Thread Erast Benson
On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 19:41 -0500, Bruce Riddle wrote: How about a really intelligent parser of prtconf -pv output. and we have it packaged within NexentaOS core packages, its called lspci which utilizes sf.net pci ids database. but the point of having nice GUI which interacts with user...

Re: [osol-discuss] First Draft of GPLv3

2006-01-16 Thread Erast Benson
On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 13:41 -0500, Stefan Teleman wrote: Disclaimer: This Post Is Not An Open Invitation For Yet Another GPL Flamewar. If you feel the irresistible urge to engage in such activity, please go to Slashdot. Thank you. The first draft of GPL v3 has been made public at:

Re: [osol-discuss] Idea for a nice OpenSolaris project - HCL client

2006-01-17 Thread Erast Benson
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 11:50 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 14:38 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Bruce Riddle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about a really intelligent parser of prtconf -pv output. Dan Micks prtpci does

Re: [osol-discuss] NexentaOS (elatte) Alpha 2 released

2006-01-30 Thread Erast Benson
On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 15:36 -0800, ken mays wrote: Thanks for a wonderful OpenSolaris distro. i only have two concerns right now: 1. Mesa 6.4.1 If you do not see it at http://packages.ubnutu.com than we don't have it yet... We are planning to move on Xorg 7.0 in the next few months or so as

Re: [osol-discuss] Google OS should be OpenSolaris

2006-01-31 Thread Erast Benson
On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 14:08 -0800, peter murray wrote: http://www.theregister.com/2006/01/31/google_goes_desktop_linux/ Would it not be cool if we could get google to use OpenSolaris instead of linux. Now, think about NexentaOS for the moment... This is exactly what they come up with, i.e.

Re: [osol-discuss] Google OS should be OpenSolaris

2006-01-31 Thread Erast Benson
On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 12:22 +1300, Glynn Foster wrote: Out of curiousity, anyone keeping track of what Ubuntu have done to become the Linux distribution of choice? From every conversation I've had with Jeff, he indicates they're not a development team [1] and they've only been doing some smart

Re: [osol-discuss] Google OS should be OpenSolaris

2006-02-01 Thread Erast Benson
On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 20:49 -0300, Ignacio Marambio Catán wrote: The last part of the puzzle are little projects like roseta, they make those users without programming skills feel like they are usefull to the community while saving the tedious work of for example translating to a new language

Re: [osol-discuss] Nexenta OS - good for general purpose Solaris training ?

2006-02-02 Thread Erast Benson
On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 02:55 -0800, Daniel Mersebak wrote: Based on OpenSolaris how compatible will Nexenta OS be in the manner of: 1) Application compliance ? compatible to some degree 2) Driver compliance ? fully compatible 3) General usage ? compatible to some degree Bottom line:

[osol-discuss] NexentaOS running OpenOffice 2.0.1

2006-02-03 Thread Erast Benson
OpenOffice 2.0.1 Screenshot: http://www.gnusolaris.org/gswiki/ErastBenson?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=ooo2screenshot.png Other screenshots: http://www.gnusolaris.org/gswiki/ErastBenson OpenOffice suite is fully integrated with MIME and NexentaOS GNOME/KDE menus. For Alpha 2 users to install

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion

2006-03-01 Thread Erast Benson
On Thu, 2006-03-02 at 01:44 +0530, Moinak Ghosh wrote: Eric Boutilier wrote: My 2 cents: We (Sun and the opensolaris community) should be impartial and treat BeleniX, SchilliX, and Nexenta equally in this regard. I realize there are space constraints, but... True. An idea that has

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion

2006-03-01 Thread Erast Benson
some room to include install notes from Dennis Clarke... LKR Erast Benson wrote: On Thu, 2006-03-02 at 01:44 +0530, Moinak Ghosh wrote: Eric Boutilier wrote: My 2 cents: We (Sun and the opensolaris community) should be impartial and treat BeleniX, SchilliX

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion

2006-03-01 Thread Erast Benson
have some room to include install notes from Dennis Clarke... LKR Erast Benson wrote: On Thu, 2006-03-02 at 01:44 +0530, Moinak Ghosh wrote: Eric Boutilier wrote: My 2 cents: We (Sun and the opensolaris community) should be impartial and treat BeleniX, SchilliX

Re: [osol-discuss] Driver Porting Question

2006-03-09 Thread Erast Benson
On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 16:49 +, Darren J Moffat wrote: GPL as a standalone driver written to the Solaris DDI shouldn't be a problem as long as it stays under the GPL. However there isn't much change of that becoming part of the official OpenSolaris source tree unless someone discovers how

Re: [osol-discuss] Fresh man from ShenYang China

2006-03-14 Thread Erast Benson
Usually fresh man loves to start hacking OpenSolaris at http://www.gnusolaris.org Just follow download instructions, setup the machine and enjoy! On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 05:45 -0800, Zhigang Yao wrote: I want to attend into the Open Solaris Projects.But,I am a fresh man.So I have a simple

Re: [osol-discuss] Driver Porting Question

2006-03-16 Thread Erast Benson
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 16:22 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 16:49 +, Darren J Moffat wrote: GPL as a standalone driver written to the Solaris DDI shouldn't be a problem as long as it stays under the GPL. However there isn't

Re: [osol-discuss] Driver Porting Question

2006-03-16 Thread Erast Benson
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 13:29 -0800, Rich Teer wrote: On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, Erast Benson wrote: As a side note: for Linux kernel this code separation will *never* work since Linux and its development team doesn't care about such a drivers. Maintaining separated drivers for Linux kernel

Re: [osol-discuss] Driver Porting Question

2006-03-19 Thread Erast Benson
On Mon, 2006-03-20 at 12:16 +1200, Glynn Foster wrote: Hi, On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 14:40 -0800, Erast Benson wrote: ALl the more reason for those driver developers to abandon Linux and target OpenSolaris! Indeed! The question is what we can do to speed up the conversion? I feel

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Features found in other OS you'd like to see in Solaris

2006-03-22 Thread Erast Benson
On Wed, 2006-03-22 at 08:17 -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Nenad Cimerman wrote: I'd like to have virtual consoles like the ones Linux has (at least on x86). There's a team at Sun working on this - they should be submitting an OpenSolaris project proposal soon to bring this out into the

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Features found in other OS you'd like to see in Solaris

2006-03-22 Thread Erast Benson
On Wed, 2006-03-22 at 12:08 -0500, Bill Rushmore wrote: OK, not really a feature necessarily of Solaris but more of an application. I really want VMware (or its equivalent), especially since the SUNpci card is becoming obsolete on Sparc and there really isn't an alternative on x64 yet.

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Features found in other OS you'd like to see in Solaris

2006-03-22 Thread Erast Benson
On Wed, 2006-03-22 at 10:53 -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Erast Benson wrote: And I always wanted to have a mouse support in console, ala gpm(Linux) and moused(BSD). Kernel support is needed. It's already there in Solaris SPARC, where graphics cards have in kernel frame buffers

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Features found in other OS you'd like to see in Solaris

2006-03-22 Thread Erast Benson
On Wed, 2006-03-22 at 11:29 -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Erast Benson wrote: This is a nice feature. But this is not what I wanted. I'd like to have some way to distribute cooked mouse events to text only applications, like screen, ncurses-based apps, generic console, etc. You'ld just

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: VMWare (Was: Features found in other OS you'd like to see in Solaris)

2006-03-25 Thread Erast Benson
On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 11:35 -0600, Eric Boutilier wrote: http://freshmeat.net/projects/parallels/?branch_id=60855release_id=223137 It's not free though -- costs $50.00. OTOH there's a free trial version. Their product only supports Solaris/Guest, AFAIK. What if we will send a community

[osol-discuss] hwdb is ported to NexentaOS

2006-03-28 Thread Erast Benson
Hi Guys, I just wanted to let you know that I fully ported (fixed some bugs, added some features) and integrated HWDB client and server backend into NexentaOS. It will be an integral part of upcoming Alpha 4 release. Screenshots: http://www.gnusolaris.org/gswiki/ErastBenson/HWDB_screenshots --

Re: [osol-discuss] Nexenta Alpha 4 ZFS

2006-03-30 Thread Erast Benson
On Thu, 2006-03-30 at 14:50 -0800, ken mays wrote: The latest release of Nexenta sports Nevada b36 which contains the newer patches to ZFS as well as 52 bug fixed since the previous Alpha 3 release. yeah... for ZFS, we need to fix GNU du http://www.gnusolaris.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/280

Re: Why LSB filesystem layout is bad, part 1 ... / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Proposal to remove /usr/sfw anditsdependencies from the bas

2006-03-31 Thread Erast Benson
On Fri, 2006-03-31 at 15:36 -0500, Chris Ricker wrote: On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Roland Mainz wrote: My personal complaint is that they stuff everything into /usr/bin/. Unix had some kind of namespace support via the elements in ${PATH} so having package groups seperated into /usr/dt/bin/

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Why LSB filesystem layout is bad,part 1 ...

2006-04-03 Thread Erast Benson
On Mon, 2006-04-03 at 10:47 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2006-04-02 at 16:32 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is more than disliking it. If e.g. 'rsh' is linked to 'ssh', people do

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-17 Thread Erast Benson
On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 16:23 -0700, Alan DuBoff wrote: However, what I personally would like to see is the same thing I've always invisioned from the days of yesteryear...That we could have a full distribution that rivaled any of the open source distributions with Solaris as our core, rather

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-17 Thread Erast Benson
On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 13:26 +1200, Glynn Foster wrote: Hi, On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 14:52 -0500, Eric Boutilier wrote: Another +1 here. And for another huge reason why it's important to go hash it out ASAP, consider the build systems that the other distros are planning/doing for

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-18 Thread Erast Benson
On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 14:50 -0700, Philip Brown wrote: On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 11:02:20PM -0700, Erast Benson wrote: On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 22:08 -0700, ken mays wrote: Going back to the comments about Nexenta build system: Nexenta build system == Debian build system The equation

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-18 Thread Erast Benson
On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 16:14 -0700, Philip Brown wrote: On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 05:54:15PM -0500, Eric Boutilier wrote: Philip Brown wrote: The thing about all that, is that it forces the machine to be closer and closer to a linux machine, until eventually, it becomes nothing more than a

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-18 Thread Erast Benson
On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 18:19 -0700, Alan DuBoff wrote: On Monday 17 April 2006 05:20 pm, Erast Benson wrote: On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 16:23 -0700, Alan DuBoff wrote: However, what I personally would like to see is the same thing I've always invisioned from the days of yesteryear...That we

[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris distros collaboration by using launchpad.net

2006-04-19 Thread Erast Benson
Guys, I were thinking on what would be beneficial for every camp involved into OpenSolaris and related development? What would be useful for NexentaOS, BeleniX, SchilliX, marTux, SCXR, etc ? I think having centralized place (bugzilla, bounty, project management, calendar, etc) for OSS packages

Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code idea

2006-04-20 Thread Erast Benson
On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 18:15 -0400, Roberto J. Dohnert wrote: Im about to say a cuss word in the Solaris world and Im prepared for whatever flak, insults and grenades that happen to come my way. Is there any interest at all to port Mono, yes the Novell .NET Framework implementation, to

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris distros collaboration by using launchpad.net

2006-04-25 Thread Erast Benson
On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 13:52 -0500, Eric Boutilier wrote: Moinak Ghosh wrote: Erast Benson wrote: Guys, I were thinking on what would be beneficial for every camp involved into OpenSolaris and related development? What would be useful for NexentaOS, BeleniX, SchilliX, marTux, SCXR

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: GUI SMF Tools

2006-04-25 Thread Erast Benson
On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 22:40 -0700, changho.kim wrote: Solaris have tools to control service by system. That's called SMF This is important role of self healing but every solaris beginner have difficulty in input command by keyboard. if user don't familiar with keyboard, they want GUI

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: GUI SMF Tools

2006-04-26 Thread Erast Benson
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 01:31 -0700, Bob Palowoda wrote: On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 10:40:18PM -0700, changho.kim wrote: Solaris have tools to control service by system. That's called SMF This is important role of self healing but every solaris beginner have difficulty in input

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Project proposal: GUI SMF Tools

2006-04-26 Thread Erast Benson
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 02:22 -0700, Bob Palowoda wrote: Don't you think using Java for this kind of things a bit of overhead? Its not like this app will be running on OSX or Windows.. why bother with Java then? Besides to do simple management thingy natively you need an extra layer,

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-mktg] Upcoming Anniversary Activities for OpenSolaris User Groups

2006-04-26 Thread Erast Benson
to. Is this proposal in addition to the other suggestions, or in place of? Laura had suggested a worldwide user group effort. Are you thinking that that isn't a good idea? Any of the others? Sara Erast Benson wrote: On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 02:19 -0300, Ignacio Marambio Catán wrote: I

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: GUI SMF Tools

2006-04-26 Thread Erast Benson
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 15:19 -0700, David Powell wrote: On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 01:45:35AM -0700, Erast Benson wrote: Don't you think using Java for this kind of things a bit of overhead? Its not like this app will be running on OSX or Windows.. why bother with Java then? We actually

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: where to start?

2006-05-23 Thread Erast Benson
On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 17:24 +1200, Matthew Gardiner wrote: On Monday 22 May 2006 21:13, you wrote: Matthew Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you expect a nice OS with a rich set of features, Solaris is the right way to go but then you should not expect everything from the GUI at

Re: [osol-discuss] Software for Solaris (was Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86)

2006-05-28 Thread Erast Benson
On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 03:49 -0700, ken mays wrote: Hello, Seems like the previous post from Matty mentions more of the 'commercial' applications moreso than the open source ones. This is more of a developer support stance from the corporate 'commercial' ISVs/IHVs. Getting Solaris into

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Software for Solaris (was Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86)

2006-05-29 Thread Erast Benson
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 00:28 -0700, UNIX admin wrote: If you want to see software for Solaris x86/x64 you should consider having a look to NexentaOS http://www.gnusolaris.org Erast and Alex are working really hard to build all software using GCC. 9000+ packages now... And while

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Software for Solaris (was Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86)

2006-05-29 Thread Erast Benson
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 00:40 -0700, UNIX admin wrote: From this stand point, GCC-like and GNU-like environments are must to have and we are moving this road... aka NexentaOS GNU/OpenSolaris. I just happen to be working on porting a GCC written application to Sun Studio 11. And all I

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Software for Solaris (was Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86)

2006-05-29 Thread Erast Benson
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 17:55 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: btw, do you know by any chance how to say Sun C compiler to always respect inlines statements? I tried different switches, never worked for me... You are trying to get non-POSIX behavior

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Software for Solaris (was Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86)

2006-05-29 Thread Erast Benson
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 12:34 -0400, Laszlo (Laca) Peter wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 20:50 +1200, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: No, I think the thing worse than that, are those who develop applications as if the whole world revolved around Linux - take the gnome-cd application, its link to a linux

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Software for Solaris (was Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86)

2006-05-29 Thread Erast Benson
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 09:36 -0700, Rich Teer wrote: On Mon, 29 May 2006, UNIX admin wrote: The point should be not to keep PORTING Linux software to Solaris, but to start using Solaris as THE main development platform for open source software (and freeware). I agree that the latter is

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Software for Solaris (was Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86)

2006-05-29 Thread Erast Benson
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 12:51 -0400, Stefan Teleman wrote: On 5/29/06, Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I'm asking how to make Sun C compiler do what I want? The compiler is doing what you want, within the limits of it being explicitly allowed to ignore what you want. :-) OK. Than

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