[osol-discuss] Re: Solaris and OpenSolaris within VMware
Just ot of interest - can you tell me which version of Linux you are running VMWare on, and how you set it up? I use VMWare for testing Solaris and prototyping new servers and it would be nice to not host them on Windoze. When I've tried to install on Linux in the past I've always got stuck at the bit where it asks for kernel drivers or some such. If you are having issues installing VMware, please jump on over to our discussion forums [1] so we can help to solve the problems you are experiencing. The particular problem you are probably running into is that you are installing VMware on a system that we don't ship pre-built modules for. In this case, the installer will try to build the modules for your running kernel, so you need the kernel headers installed on the system. Presumably you didn't build your own kernel, since the headers would be there, so you'll need to install the corresponding kernel headers or source package. What distro and kernel version are you running? Cheers, Andrew [1] http://www.vmware.com/community/index.jspa This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: Solaris and OpenSolaris within VMware
Just ot of interest - can you tell me which version of Linux you are running VMWare on, and how you set it up? I use VMWare for testing Solaris and prototyping new servers and it would be nice to not host them on Windoze. When I've tried to install on Linux in the past I've always got stuck at the bit where it asks for kernel drivers or some such. Thanks Andrew. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Solaris and OpenSolaris within VMware
On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 16:59, Dennis Clarke wrote: On 2/1/06, Andrew Pattison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just ot of interest - can you tell me which version of Linux you are running VMWare on, and how you set it up? I use VMWare for testing Solaris and prototyping new servers and it would be nice to not host them on Windoze. When I've tried to install on Linux in the past I've always got stuck at the bit where it asks for kernel drivers or some such. I WAS using RH9 until today. Now I hate Red Hat 9. I need to move to a better more modern rev. So check in with me tomorrow by which time I will be on Ubunto or RHEL4. Apologies to all, I couldn't resist. The worst strain was on Unix's mind. Unable to assimilate all the conflicting patchworks of features it had ingested, its personality began to fragment into millions of distinct, incompatible operating systems. People would cautiously say good morning Unix. And who are we today? and it would reply Beastie (BSD), or Domain, or I'm System III, but I'll be System V tomorrow. Psychiatrists labored for years to weld together the two major poles of Unix's personality, Beasty Boy, an inner-city youth from Berkeley, and Belle, a southern transvestite who wanted to be a woman. With each attempt, the two poles would mutate, like psychotic retroviruses, leaving their union a worthless blob of protoplasm requiring constant life support to remain compatible with its parent personalities. Finally, unbalanced by its own cancerous growth, Unix fell into a vat of toxic radioactive wombat urine, from which it emerged, skin white and hair green. It smelled like somebody's dead grandmother. With a horrible grin on its face, it set out to conquer the world. The History of UNIX. http://www.cs.bgu.ac.il/~omri/Humor/UnixHistory.html Dennis __ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: Solaris and OpenSolaris within VMware
On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 17:15, Dennis Clarke wrote: Things are progressing well on the screen shots finally. I lost my NT4 PDC but gained a Solaris 10 virtual machine. More than a fair trade I guess. http://www.blastwave.org/dclarke/stuff/VMWare/VMWare_006.jpg I am still grabbing screen shots .. plenty of them. I am up to 23 so far and will probably get to 50 or more. Whats the real deal on VMware ? I mean how many instances of Windows and Solaris and OS/2 can you run at one time within a single big system? With GSX or ESX that number might be in the hundreds .. don't know. Well maybe not hundreds in the real world. For some reason I think the theoretical max is only 96 at one time. It depends on what the guests are doing and the size of the hardware. At my company we run about a half dozen Windows servers on 2-way boxes. However, Solaris offically supported on ESX yet. But when it does think about the virtualaztion you could do with Solaris containers on top of Virtual Machines! I am taking screen shots here and I allocated 12GB to the Sol10U1 system as well as 1536MB of RAM and two processors. I removed the USB, floppy and sound devices entirely. Is there dynamic resource allocation with VMWare or is it like Microsoft where you need to keep adding fixed blocks of resouces and reboot continually? I guess that is dependant on the guest OS and really .. this is VMWare Workstation 5.5. Not GSX or ESX. I am not sure how workstation does allocation but on ESX you assign processor shares. You can do that dynamically. But if you want to add a CPU or things like that you need to bring the instance down. I have found that resource allocation works quite well on ESX. Bill rushmores.net ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: Solaris and OpenSolaris within VMware
On 1/30/06, Bill Rushmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 17:15, Dennis Clarke wrote: Things are progressing well on the screen shots finally. I lost my NT4 PDC but gained a Solaris 10 virtual machine. More than a fair trade I guess. http://www.blastwave.org/dclarke/stuff/VMWare/VMWare_006.jpg I am still grabbing screen shots .. plenty of them. I am up to 23 so far and will probably get to 50 or more. Whats the real deal on VMware ? I mean how many instances of Windows and Solaris and OS/2 can you run at one time within a single big system? With GSX or ESX that number might be in the hundreds .. don't know. Well maybe not hundreds in the real world. For some reason I think the theoretical max is only 96 at one time. It depends on what the guests are doing and the size of the hardware. So .. let's assume infinite memory and zero response time IO with near infinite CPU speed and we hit some internal limit in the VMWare product at 96 or so ? Or is it possible to get a massive Galaxy box and install RHEL ( or what? ESX on top of ? ) and then hit maybe 16 virtual machines. I have no idea and I am sure the people are VMWare would love to have the ideal gas law equation computer. Infinite memory, near infinite CPU speed and zero response time IO. The only limitation then is the software. At my company we run about a half dozen Windows servers on 2-way boxes. However, Solaris offically supported on ESX yet. But when it does think about the virtualaztion you could do with Solaris containers on top of Virtual Machines! But is it officially supported on the VMWare WorkStation 5.5 release. Wild. I am taking screen shots here and I allocated 12GB to the Sol10U1 system as well as 1536MB of RAM and two processors. I removed the USB, floppy and sound devices entirely. Is there dynamic resource allocation with VMWare or is it like Microsoft where you need to keep adding fixed blocks of resouces and reboot continually? I guess that is dependant on the guest OS and really .. this is VMWare Workstation 5.5. Not GSX or ESX. I am not sure how workstation does allocation but on ESX you assign processor shares. You can do that dynamically. But if you want to add a CPU or things like that you need to bring the instance down. I have found that resource allocation works quite well on ESX. And stability ? Rock solid ? I think that I would really like to see a Microsoft Windows BrandZ Zone and then be able to run a massive UltraSparc box with hundreds of virtual Windows and OS/2 and Linux instances. I have seen racks of Dell boxes that are all mostly doing nothing and getting rebooted daily or twice weekly at best. I was recently in a site where that had racks of IBM gear ( Netfinity units ) and racks of Dell with AS400 also. At another end they had a few racks of Sun gear ( V240 - V480 - V880 etc ). I stood there looking at all that Dell stuff and asked what they were doing. The sysadmin looked at me and said .. and I quote, Mostly idle but somewhere in there one of them is crashed and another is rebooting at any given time of day. And while it was funny in a sad way .. he wasn't laughing. pictures are pouring in now : http://www.blastwave.org/dclarke/stuff/VMWare/ Dennis ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: Solaris and OpenSolaris within VMware
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, Dennis Clarke wrote: So .. let's assume infinite memory and zero response time IO with near infinite CPU speed and we hit some internal limit in the VMWare product at 96 or so ? Or is it possible to get a massive Galaxy box and install RHEL ( or what? ESX on top of ? ) and then hit maybe 16 virtual machines. I have no idea and I am sure the people are VMWare would love to have the ideal gas law equation computer. Infinite memory, near infinite CPU speed and zero response time IO. The only limitation then is the software. The limitation is within ESX. Since I am not an expert I won't try to explain it. I just remember when I setup ESX I had to allocate a certain amount of memory to the ESX console and that was the limitation on the number of OS's I could run. ESX runs on the bare metal and I think it is based on Red Hat. Although I bet you could get some ridiculous number of systems by running Solaris zones on top of VMware! And stability ? Rock solid ? Very stable. Bill rushmores.net ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: Solaris and OpenSolaris within VMware
On 1/30/06, Bill Rushmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, Dennis Clarke wrote: So .. let's assume infinite memory and zero response time IO with near infinite CPU speed and we hit some internal limit in the VMWare product at 96 or so ? Or is it possible to get a massive Galaxy box and install RHEL ( or what? ESX on top of ? ) and then hit maybe 16 virtual machines. I have no idea and I am sure the people are VMWare would love to have the ideal gas law equation computer. Infinite memory, near infinite CPU speed and zero response time IO. The only limitation then is the software. The limitation is within ESX. Since I am not an expert I won't try to explain it. I just remember when I setup ESX I had to allocate a certain amount of memory to the ESX console and that was the limitation on the number of OS's I could run. ESX runs on the bare metal and I think it is based on Red Hat. That probably explains why we may never see it run on Solaris x86. :-( but who knows ... Although I bet you could get some ridiculous number of systems by running Solaris zones on top of VMware! Only the future will tell ... OKay .. I'm done with this phase of this document. I have all the images and I have the virtual server running fine and I even applied the /var/svc/profile/generic_limited_net.xml service profile. If I login via ssh I can even get the processor state and change the state as per usual : # psrinfo -v Status of virtual processor 0 as of: 01/30/2006 22:28:07 on-line since 01/30/2006 21:59:27. The i386 processor operates at 2391 MHz, and has an i387 compatible floating point processor. Status of virtual processor 1 as of: 01/30/2006 22:28:07 on-line since 01/30/2006 21:59:30. The i386 processor operates at 2391 MHz, and has an i387 compatible floating point processor. Take processor 1 offline : # psradm -f 1 # psrinfo -v Status of virtual processor 0 as of: 01/30/2006 22:28:38 on-line since 01/30/2006 22:28:28. The i386 processor operates at 2391 MHz, and has an i387 compatible floating point processor. Status of virtual processor 1 as of: 01/30/2006 22:28:38 off-line since 01/30/2006 22:28:34. The i386 processor operates at 2391 MHz, and has an i387 compatible floating point processor. Then back online # psradm -n 1 Then mark proc 1 as spare : # psradm -sv 1 processor 1 marked spare. # psrinfo -v Status of virtual processor 0 as of: 01/30/2006 22:30:24 on-line since 01/30/2006 22:28:28. The i386 processor operates at 2391 MHz, and has an i387 compatible floating point processor. Status of virtual processor 1 as of: 01/30/2006 22:30:24 spare since 01/30/2006 22:30:19. The i386 processor operates at 2391 MHz, and has an i387 compatible floating point processor. We have memory : # prtconf -v | grep Memory Memory size: 1536 Megabytes # df -ak Filesystemkbytesused avail capacity Mounted on /dev/dsk/c0d0s0 6050982 2895856 309461749%/ /devices 0 0 0 0%/devices ctfs 0 0 0 0%/system/contract proc 0 0 0 0%/proc mnttab 0 0 0 0%/etc/mnttab swap 3342016 592 3341424 1%/etc/svc/volatile objfs 0 0 0 0%/system/object /usr/lib/libc/libc_hwcap1.so.1 6050982 2895856 309461749%/lib/libc.so.1 fd 0 0 0 0%/dev/fd swap 3341428 4 3341424 1%/tmp swap 3341444 20 3341424 1%/var/run /dev/dsk/c0d0s5 27089652813 2651973 1%/opt /dev/dsk/c0d0s7 15257431555 1463159 1%/export/home -hosts 0 0 0 0%/net auto_home 0 0 0 0%/home Now it will be fun to create a zone in there. I wonder how I create another disk ? Hmmm .. that could be interesting. The pics are all at : http://www.blastwave.org/dclarke/stuff/VMWare/ Dennis ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
