Tigro Spottystripes wrote:
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> Are the people selling illegal copies making that much money that fast?
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I was thinking more in terms of drug laundering and the like, not
revenue from selling stolen prims. Jumped off-topic a tad, sorry.
Le 16 mars 2010 à 04:08, Glen Canaday a écrit :
> Screwed up the topic. All better now.
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> Linux build of Snowglobe-2.0 svn doesn't like spaces in the build path.
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Who puts spaces on unix pathes ? ;)
Lilly
pixelgi...@gmail.com
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Me too. It's part of why I wanted it to build so bad. Others can build
it - this is actually my first successful build attempt.
--GC
On 03/15/2010 11:24 PM, Tony Agudo wrote:
Yup, that sort of proper(at least would run okay). I'm a bit tired of
seeing "no Linux binary available" on the wiki
lol.. define 'proper' ;P
Release, non-standalone? If this worls properly I'll see if I can do a
non-patched pure 2.0 build. If LL's interested, they can have it.
--GC
On 03/15/2010 11:14 PM, Tony Agudo wrote:
Congrats on the successful build, Glen. I hope this means a proper
Snowglobe 2.0
Screwed up the topic. All better now.
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Linux build of Snowglobe-2.0 svn doesn't like spaces in the build path.
find: `/home/glen/Programs/Second': No such file or directory
find:
`Life/Snowglobe-2.0-build/trunk/indra/viewer-linux-i686-relwithdebinfo/newview/packaged':
No such file or
Linux build of Snowglobe-2.0 svn doesn't like spaces in the build path.
find: `/home/glen/Programs/Second': No such file or directory
find:
`Life/Snowglobe-2.0-build/trunk/indra/viewer-linux-i686-relwithdebinfo/newview/packaged':
No such file or directory
Bright side - got thru my fist build!
And what about value of goods, something we learned in highschool
civics? The more stuff that is available, the less it's valued. If I
were to somehow make a system IRL that cloned pure gold by the
truckload, and set up enough plants to produce gold, would gold be worth
as much as it was before I
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there are important differences between actual theft and unauthorized
copying...
On 15/3/2010 20:27, Peter Swales wrote:
> As someone who uses a declawed copybot (limited to my own created items
> only) to copy from main grid to my openserver and back
Just to clarify, I only do stuff I create, just trying to say not all users
of copy programs do it to steal in any shape or form
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:27 PM, Peter Swales wrote:
> As someone who uses a declawed copybot (limited to my own created items
> only) to copy from main grid to my ope
As someone who uses a declawed copybot (limited to my own created items
only) to copy from main grid to my openserver and back I find what New Hax
is saying disgusting, People make valid real money off what they make, just
because it is in ones and zeroes makes no difference, an apple is just
proto
Hm, yes, I suppose that is true. My mind works mostly in absolutes, it's
easier to just count all the stolen freebies as lost sales. You're
right, however. My mistake. It was probably fueled by my general bad
feelings about the incident, because I DO use my earnings in the real
world, and I als
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 04:22:58PM -0600, Maya Remblai wrote:
> Not true. See the following example that actually happened to me:
>
> Person A rips a large number of products, including mine. He boxes them
> and gives them away, for free, claiming he has my permission (which he
> doesn't). Now,
Soft Linden wrote:
> Who? There's a non-participant who showed up to troll, and Carlos who
> says he wishes things were different so he could learn and experiment
> more.
>
> But - even if the list were swarming with looters itching to violate
> others' rights, how would the app store solution you
New Hax wrote:
> but on the internet as a content maker you can make INFINITE products
> so you arent losing anything if i copy it and make no money off of it.
>
Not true. See the following example that actually happened to me:
Person A rips a large number of products, including mine. He boxes
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Are the people selling illegal copies making that much money that fast?
On 15/3/2010 17:40, Lawson English wrote:
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>> People can still simply sell the L$ for a fractio
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Lawson English wrote:
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>> People can still simply sell the L$ for a fraction of the market price
>> directly to other people, without ever going thru an exchange service,
>> that's h
The Web evolved into an amazing platform for experience and
application delivery by offering sandboxed experiences within a client
applications under the control of remote services. I'm writing this
email in a client implemented entirely in a Web browser, where the
experience is entirely dictated b
Tigro Spottystripes wrote:
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> People can still simply sell the L$ for a fraction of the market price
> directly to other people, without ever going thru an exchange service,
> that's how i would do it if i wanted to cash out illegal money. Trying
>
Vex Streeter wrote:
> Soft Linden wrote:
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>> Any additional ideas on squashing fraud are always appreciated, via
>> mail to secur...@lindenlab.com. Please don't hold those discussions on
>> this list.
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> Understood - I know there is considerable effort in this area. Mainly I
> wa
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People can still simply sell the L$ for a fraction of the market price
directly to other people, without ever going thru an exchange service,
that's how i would do it if i wanted to cash out illegal money. Trying
to limit usage of exchange services onl
Soft Linden wrote:
> Any additional ideas on squashing fraud are always appreciated, via
> mail to secur...@lindenlab.com. Please don't hold those discussions on
> this list.
>
Understood - I know there is considerable effort in this area. Mainly I
wanted to opine that such limits are much mor
I agree. This really doesn't belong on this list.
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Am Montag, 15. März 2010 15:31:14 schrieb Soft Linden:
> On Monday, March 15, 2010, Vex Streeter wrote:
> > Excellent discussion, Thomas - I think I concur on every point.
> >
> > I'd add, however, that I think LL could tweak the economic model to
> > discourage for-profit content theft. Perhaps
On Monday, March 15, 2010, Vex Streeter wrote:
> Excellent discussion, Thomas - I think I concur on every point.
>
> I'd add, however, that I think LL could tweak the economic model to
> discourage for-profit content theft. Perhaps requiring that account be
> verified in order to convert L$ to re
I agree on both points. I suspect there are a bunch of us who have little time
for the raving that's filled the list the last few days. I usually contribute
to discussions with some substance and there's been precious little here.
Thomas' points and the general behavior of the Lindens on the l
Excellent discussion, Thomas - I think I concur on every point.
I'd add, however, that I think LL could tweak the economic model to
discourage for-profit content theft. Perhaps requiring that account be
verified in order to convert L$ to real world currency or even a monthly
L$ transaction lim
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 01:29:16AM +, Thomas Grimshaw wrote:
> *I own and even have developed software that can copy any content from
> second life. Have I ever used this to violate copyright? Nope, I just
> didn't want to spend time building in content protection when the
> software was on
...and then there's the pesky little truth that even if the viewer were
completely closed source, unless the basic architecture of personal computer
graphics processing across the industry is changed, and all of the current
personal computer hardware is retired, it will be possible to rip content
a
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:09:37 -0400, "Kent Quirk (Q Linden)"
wrote:
> On Mar 14, 2010, at 2:41 PM, Marine Kelley wrote:
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>> However it is true that LL has delivered a bad message recently, by
>> publishing the TPV and the closed-source SL 2.0 the SAME day. The TPV
>> burdens us developers while
Am Montag, 15. März 2010 13:27:35 schrieb Opensource Obscure:
> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:36:33 -0400, Glen Canaday
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> wrote:
> > Then what are you doing here?
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> Trolling. This is an effective place where to do that.
> I'm sure he's having more fun than me.
thats what spamassassin blacklisting
I hope that because your post was a reaction to mine,
people will NOT think that I share your ideals in the
same anarchistic way. I feel the need to state that I don't.
First of all, I have a good friend in-world that makes
his living in-world. And I'd do anything to help him,
because he is a very
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:36:33 -0400, Glen Canaday
wrote:
> Then what are you doing here?
Trolling. This is an effective place where to do that.
I'm sure he's having more fun than me.
opensource obscure
>
> On 03/14/2010 06:32 PM, New Hax wrote:
>> I know better than to try to get rich off of
On Monday, March 15, 2010, Kevin Woolley wrote:
> @Soft Linden - apparently it's not just the 'one guy' - it looks like this
> list is full of people who only want the viewer open sourced so they can
> 'free' intellectual property.
Who? There's a non-participant who showed up to troll, and Carlos
On 2010-03-15, at 03:42, Kevin Woolley wrote:
> A. Have the guts to stop apologising for Linden Lab's decisions. You
> own the
> ballpark. Apple has a great developer program but that doesn't mean
> that it
> squirmed to its users because XCode 3.2 beta (iPad capable) wasn't
> available
> the
Your as funny as hax, kevin. Where do these delusional extremists come from?
The loud minority eh?
Great write-up Thomas! Those are well defined points, and it is really true,
stolen content doesn't really have any noticeable effect and if it's sold
can be quickly wiped away with a DMCA takedown n
@Soft Linden - apparently it's not just the 'one guy' - it looks like this
list is full of people who only want the viewer open sourced so they can
'free' intellectual property.
I emphasise that it's your salary that is being paid by the likes of me
owning Sims, not ideological 'copyright is thef
Are you outright saying on the sldev mailing list, in the face of LL,
that you are wanting to work at stealing enough content to "force"
them to open the whole system ?
And you still wonder why your ideas are met with hostility ?
You should stop leeching other people's stuff and start your ow
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