I understand, but read my example (and is ONLY an example, not related to Cool)
A developer fit hiddenly code malicious inside viewer, a resident will
be damaged by this code and toss him law guy to Linden why damage
happened on Linden grid, if Linden don't have data about Viewer
creator how can s
Now I've got around the problem but another comes as follows:
"
libcurl3-cares:
Depends: libkrb53 (>=1.6.dfsg.2) but it is not installable
"
The dependency seems buggy since the libkrb5-3 is used instead of libkrb53
in ubuntu. The bug is also mentioned in
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/
Hi everyone,
When I use apt-get to acquire "libcurl4-cares-dev" on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. I
meet a the dependency bug, which is reported as follows:
"
libcurl3-cares:
Depends: libssl0.9.8 (>=0.9.8m-1) but 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8 is to be installed
"
Anybody has met the same problem? Any idea to solve the pro
1. Are there any plans to enable higher levels of compiler optimizations for
the viewer?
For example, Streaming SIMD Extensions (SSE, SSE2, and SSE3) are not
enabled. SSE was introduced in Pentium III processors in 1999. SSE was
first added to AMD processors in the Athlon XP and Duron, both in
ANY Secondlife Viewer could be used for the exact same type of DDoS
attack. Even more so the 2.0 viewers with Media on a Prim.
The DDoS was from a webpage with hidden images being called from
another site. Not from the clients being used as a Bot network. In
this case it just happened to be the
Oh for crying out loud...Emerald DID cause a DDoS attack, which is a
CRIME. It also collected information about users that it shouldn't have.
Those are facts that LL is aware of. It's a dangerous piece of software
and has no right to connect to the grid now. I used to use Emerald, and
not man
I am personnally VERY PROUD of what LL did with this issue, i would have
expected a faster response but we can't blame them too much since it
happened over a weekend.
What the folks at Emerald did was plain wrong, they have no rights to use
your computer to run their attacks.
For all we know,
On 9/8/2010 16:39, Tom Grimshaw wrote:
>Dear Linden Lab,
>
> It's absolutely none of your business what software I choose to run on
> my PC.
>
> Blocking emerald is a step of pure arrogance - and ignorance - on Linden
> Lab's behalf - it's not having an adverse effect on your servers, in
> fa
From: angel_of_crim...@hotmail.com
To: t...@streamsense.net
Subject: RE: [opensource-dev] Blocking viewers.
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 19:46:57 -0400
Actually, There WAS a danger. Emerald devs were openly collecting personal
information. There were actively using the program to perform att
On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 23:21:26 +0100
Tom Grimshaw wrote:
> The lab DO NOT have any right to determine what software they will
> allow to connect to their SERVICE.
are you joking? is THEIR service, on THEIR servers, done with THEIR
software.
> Linden Lab have blocked Emerald due to a POLITIC
so the software "Emerald" has no flaws that effect second life in any way
you say?
attempted DDoSing a website from the client
exposing user data to the world(then hiding it in encryption that is sent
only to the creators)
those are goodies that everyone wants to be a part of i take it.
i m
> Okay, let's just outline this properly.
>
> The lab DO NOT have any right to determine what software they will allow
> to connect to their SERVICE. The only thing they DO have a right to do
> is to determine which TCP connections they want to accept and which UDP
> packets they want to accept.
In regards to Phoenix vs Emerald. The ONLY things Phoenix removed
from the client that made them TPV compliant was the EMKDU.dll file
(as well as removing the ability to use the LLKDU.dll)
The gist of this seeming to be that allowing a Third Party client the
ability to use LLKDU.dll means that cl
Try editing a notecard and type past the edge. I've only seen it once
and im not in a position where I can report it atm, but it could be
related to what you're seeing.
In the notecard I get screwed up text.
--GC
On Wed, 2010-09-08 at 20:15 +0100, Talia Tokugawa wrote:
> Hey, is this just me?
>
I've compared Linden Lab more often with an abusive husband.
You take the beating and then believe the stories and hope that
it all will become better. It's hard to leave such a husband usually,
because you invested in that life and one lose a lot when one
leaves.
Nevertheless, I have come to the
On 08/09/2010 23:09, Mike Dickson wrote:
> Oh geez. Do we really have to go through this again. You can run
> whatever you like on your PC. And Linden Lab has every right to
> determine what software they will allow to connect to their SERVICE.
Okay, let's just outline this properly.
The lab
I agree and Phoenix seems to be coming only very well to and all the
negativity behind emerald seems to be gone in the atmosphere of
phoenix. I am pretty excited to see where it heads! Maybe this thread
can be saved and put back on topic :D
Tom I know your upset about them banning Emerald but it w
On 09/08/2010 05:42 PM, Aleric Inglewood wrote:
> I'm not happy to say it, but I can't help myself...
>
> I told you so
>
> When LL announced the TPV list, it was already clear to me
> that they want to control what viewer can connect and that
> this was the beginning of whitelist. Soon every vie
On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 23:03:15 +0100
Tom Grimshaw wrote:
> My issue is that none of these reasons involve the way the viewer
> interacts with the LL Servers in any way. They made the decision
> based on the conduct of a few idiots (and there are always idiots in
> open source projects) - and not b
Dear Tom Grimshaw,
You're right, LL has no business telling you what software you can install
and run on your own computer, they definitely shouldn't try to censor OSS,
and they would look pretty despicable if they were trying to do that. Good
thing they aren't doing that at all here isn't it? Wh
On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 17:59:41 -0400
Marc Adored wrote:
> Emerald is a perfect example of that. Everyone is upset and mad at
> linden for banning Emerald but no body cared what the developers of
> Emerald were doing before it effected them directly. I wont go into a
> flame war over one of my favori
On 08/09/2010 22:58, Celierra Darling wrote:
> there's reasons why LL doesn't trust Emerald to connect to their servers.
My issue is that none of these reasons involve the way the viewer
interacts with the LL Servers in any way. They made the decision based
on the conduct of a few idiots (and
On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 22:39:00 +0100
Tom Grimshaw wrote:
> It's absolutely none of your business what software I choose to run
> on my PC.
> Blocking emerald is a step of pure arrogance - and ignorance - on
> Linden Lab's behalf - it's not having an adverse effect on your
> servers, in fact THE ONL
Sorry but it is their service and they do have that right. They can
block you personally if they wanted to because they are providing you
with a service and they don't have to. Most people forget that. They
don't actually need any reason at all to stop providing you with
service. If they chose to b
You can still use that software, but you'll just have to connect somewhere
else for service if you do so. LL doesn't have to care only about direct
effects on their own servers, and LL has the right to no longer trust
viewers that identify themselves as "Emerald".
Sure, you can get around it if y
Just switch to Phoenix its the projects new structure and project name.
On another not they have every right to police who and what is
connecting to their service. They also have every right to ban you for
whatever reason they want without giving any reason at all. They are
not policing your compu
It is there grid that you are connecting too with the viewer of your choice,
so yea it is there business. As much as we all want to think that sl is
open source, there is only parts of it that are. Im sure no one is going to
stop you from using and open grid with emerald.
I love deadlines. I lik
I'm not happy to say it, but I can't help myself...
I told you so
When LL announced the TPV list, it was already clear to me
that they want to control what viewer can connect and that
this was the beginning of whitelist. Soon every viewer that
is not derived from their holy "2.0" will be blocked.
Dear Linden Lab,
It's absolutely none of your business what software I choose to run on
my PC.
Blocking emerald is a step of pure arrogance - and ignorance - on Linden
Lab's behalf - it's not having an adverse effect on your servers, in
fact THE ONLY WAY you can tell i'm runing Emerald is by
It's the "Second Life development viewer" not the "Snowstorm viewer"
right? Along with the "Second Life beta viewer" and the "Second Life
viewer" - this last being the main "stable" edition.
Ricky
Cron Stardust
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Sarah (Esbee) Hutchinson
wrote:
> Snowstorm isn't a
Anybody else notice that the line numbers in the script editor are
white-on-white? If you set focus somewhere else the script window
grays (expected) revealing the fact that the line number text is
white...
Ricky
Cron Stardust
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Snowstorm isn't a Viewer, so there's no need to list it separately.
Snowstorm is just the name of the team working on the official Second Life
Viewer.
Cheers,
Esbee
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Altair Sythos wrote:
> ehm is there a plan to list SnowStorm too? on list or Linden
> Viewe
ehm is there a plan to list SnowStorm too? on list or Linden
Viewers paragraph (where SL2 and SnowGlobe already named)
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Overall User story:
User story brief: As a user/content creator, I need more accessible and easier
to find controls.
User
story expanded: As a user/content creator, It is hard to find the
controls and features I need, and it requires more clicks and more time
to use them. Furthermore, with t
Hey, is this just me?
In Snowstorm every so often in chat the last character on a line of text is
replaced by a space.
Specific example here..
What I see is
[12:06] Nerd: got my vot
everyone else sees
[12:06] Nerd: got my vote
I can also copy the line of text and paste it and it will b
On 08.09.2010 16:50, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote:
> The expectation is that the Development builds will be pretty stable.
Needs some polishment before that. The DEV builds crash every now and then,
with not much in the log and a created dump file of 0 bytes.
If you have an idea how I can g
On 2010-09-08 10:35, Mike Dickson wrote:
>On 09/08/2010 10:04 AM, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote:
>> On 2010-09-08 9:43, Ponzu wrote:
>>> Will there be a "snowstorm" viewer?
>> Not by that name - there is a 'Development' viewer (available both from
>> the wiki and the secondlife.com dow
On 09/08/2010 10:04 AM, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote:
>On 2010-09-08 9:43, Ponzu wrote:
>> Will there be a "snowstorm" viewer?
> Not by that name - there is a 'Development' viewer (available both from
> the wiki and the secondlife.com download page) that is the current
> viewer-developmen
On 2010-09-08 9:43, Ponzu wrote:
> Will there be a "snowstorm" viewer?
Not by that name - there is a 'Development' viewer (available both from
the wiki and the secondlife.com download page) that is the current
viewer-development build.
See https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Viewer_Types
_
Will there be a "snowstorm" viewer?
>From an end-user standpoint, it might be helpful if there are simply
named viewers to decide between.
V2
V2 beta
V1.23
Snowsglobe (as long as 1.23 is supported)
Snowstorm (or is that the same as V2 Beta?)
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On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Tofu Linden wrote:
> Not a great success, sadly.
> On the official build machine (build-linux) the autobuild aborts with a
> python(?) error pretty quickly.
> On my local machine everything builds great, and basically runs, but
> the resulting libcurl doesn't have
Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote:
> On 2010-09-06 8:01, Tofu Linden wrote:
>> Hi Robin,
>> Is there a clear blocker for this? My loose grasp of the situation
>> is that it's waiting for some Socks users to verify that this
>> works for them out in the wild. Is this correct?
> It also needs an u
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Tofu Linden wrote:
> Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote:
>> On 2010-09-06 8:01, Tofu Linden wrote:
>>> Hi Robin,
>>> Is there a clear blocker for this? My loose grasp of the situation
>>> is that it's waiting for some Socks users to verify that this
>>> works for
Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote:
> On 2010-09-06 8:01, Tofu Linden wrote:
>> Hi Robin,
>> Is there a clear blocker for this? My loose grasp of the situation
>> is that it's waiting for some Socks users to verify that this
>> works for them out in the wild. Is this correct?
> It also needs an u
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