Re: [opensource-dev] Eclipse Guru's

2010-03-04 Thread Rob Nelson
Well, now that I've managed to (finally) find most of the UI drawing stuff, it's highly possible that I'll have a working plugin framework for editing LSL (and Lua) scripts from within the viewer within the next year (after I refactor the Lua modules and get GL running). Unfortunately, it looks l

Re: [opensource-dev] Eclipse Guru's

2010-03-04 Thread Ambroff Linden
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Morgaine wrote: > Ambroff, adding a specialized interface just to support an IDE is a very > bad idea. I think in general you are right, I was mostly just throwing it out as a half-baked thought. You still have to build a sane object model in the viewer before a p

Re: [opensource-dev] Eclipse Guru's

2010-03-04 Thread Andromeda Quonset
I would be happy if the built-in editor could be upgraded to handle a larger source code file. When I code, I am quite heavy on the commenting, as I maintain many scripts, and I rely on my commenting to refresh my memory about what I was doing, when I revisit a script that I haven't needed to

Re: [opensource-dev] Eclipse Guru's

2010-03-04 Thread Morgaine
Sai, that's exactly how we we were designing Imprudence's plugin system. JSON messages sent by a plugin script were decoded on arrival in the viewer's socket plugin interface, and dispatched to invoke corresponding functions in the Viewer API. Some API functions set up callbacks, typically when r

Re: [opensource-dev] Eclipse Guru's

2010-03-04 Thread Morgaine
Ambroff, adding a specialized interface just to support an IDE is a very bad idea. It's a completely non-scalable approach, very inflexible, and it is simply too much work to add bespoke code each time a new application is wanted. And worst of all, it doesn't allow the user community to add their

Re: [opensource-dev] Eclipse Guru's

2010-03-04 Thread Lawson English
Ambroff Linden wrote: > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Jonathan Irvin > wrote: > > I do often hear complaints and wishes for new build tools, what > about us LSL devs? Some things I would like are: > >1. Better IDE in SL Viewer >2. API for com

Re: [opensource-dev] Eclipse Guru's

2010-03-04 Thread Ambroff Linden
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Jonathan Irvin wrote: > I do often hear complaints and wishes for new build tools, what about us > LSL devs? Some things I would like are: > >1. Better IDE in SL Viewer >2. API for compiling in LSL using various IDEs already available >3. Going along w

Re: [opensource-dev] Eclipse Guru's

2010-03-04 Thread Morgaine
Jonathan, we'll have all that and more, as soon as we have client-side scripting. It truly is the universal panacea, because it will allow simple tools to be scripted directly, and complex tools to be linked in via the script as an interface, and orchestrated to work with the viewer. I think perh

Re: [opensource-dev] Eclipse Guru's

2010-03-03 Thread Brandon Husbands
LSL plus has one fatal flaw... No brace completion matching. On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Neil Canham wrote: > I'd second the need for LSL editing and scripting improvements in the > client: > > 1. Autocomplete in existing LSL editor > 2. Expand/collapse fuctions/events > 3. Integrated debugg

Re: [opensource-dev] Eclipse Guru's

2010-03-03 Thread Neil Canham
BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }I'd second the need for LSL editing and scripting improvements in the client: 1. Autocomplete in existing LSL editor 2. Expand/collapse fuctions/events 3. Integrated debugger! Neil On Wed 03/03/10 3:03 PM , Jonathan Irvin djfo

Re: [opensource-dev] Eclipse Guru's

2010-03-03 Thread Jonathan Irvin
I do often hear complaints and wishes for new build tools, what about us LSL devs? Some things I would like are: 1. Better IDE in SL Viewer 2. API for compiling in LSL using various IDEs already available 3. Going along with #1, as suggested, integrating Eclipse or equivalent in SL.

Re: [opensource-dev] Eclipse Guru's

2010-03-03 Thread Jo Grant
>What a great little dev environment!!! I eat, breathe and drink Eclipse for my day job. I love it. But for Second Life, I've found that the benefits of the dev environment are outweighed by the pain of having to cut and paste the code into Second Life each time I want to try it out. Only 10% of

Re: [opensource-dev] Eclipse Guru's

2010-03-03 Thread Carlo Wood
On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 08:09:53PM -0800, Fire wrote: >  I am wondering who else on this list uses > eclipse, and am particularly interested in how and if you use this in a team > environment. I've tried eclipse several times over the years, each time I came to

Re: [opensource-dev] Eclipse Guru's

2010-03-03 Thread Vex Streeter
Absolutely!  You've described my preferred setup exactly. Any script longer than a few lines, and I do it with Eclipse, LSLPlus and Subversive.  I also use PHP and C/C++ plugins for SLish work. Sadly, the last time I tried the C# plugin, things broke horribly, but perhaps it is time to try agai

Re: [opensource-dev] Eclipse Guru's

2010-03-03 Thread Fire
Thanks Boroondas! I will! Cheers! :) On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Boroondas Gupte wrote: > Hi Fire > > If you're interested in who uses Eclipse and SVN specifically for LSL, > you might want to ask at secondlifescript...@lists.secondlife.com >

Re: [opensource-dev] Eclipse Guru's

2010-03-03 Thread Boroondas Gupte
Hi Fire If you're interested in who uses Eclipse and SVN specifically for LSL, you might want to ask at secondlifescript...@lists.secondlife.com (https://lists.secondlife.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/secondlifescripters) instead of here. cheers Bo

Re: [opensource-dev] Eclipse Guru's

2010-03-03 Thread Neil Canham
BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }I've been using Eclipse for Java and Webapp development for years, initially using IBMs hugely enhanced versions (originally WebSphere Application Developer, then Rational Application Developer. I've used both CVS and SVN as source

[opensource-dev] Eclipse Guru's

2010-03-02 Thread Fire
Hi everyone I have been using LSL Plus , and eclipse for the longest time to develop LSL code. I love it due to its auto-completion abilities, and the general user interface. I recently installed Subversion using this site as a guide: http://www.vogella.de/article