Re: LSB inclusion of OpenSSL

2005-11-07 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 7 Nov 2005 12:45:15 +0530, Pradosh Adoni [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: pradosh.adoni so ,would it make more sense to standardize on the EVP pradosh.adoni interface as opposed to the lower level functions ? pradosh.adoni This would force developers seeking LSB

Re: LSB inclusion of OpenSSL

2005-11-07 Thread Dr. Stephen Henson
On Mon, Nov 07, 2005, Pradosh Adoni wrote: pradosh.adoni for eg. Of the current list of interfaces which ones pradosh.adoni are most definitely going to be deprecated in future pradosh.adoni versions ? For the longest time, we have recommended to use the EVP interface rather than

Re: LSB inclusion of OpenSSL

2005-11-07 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 7 Nov 2005 13:37:19 +0100, Dr. Stephen Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: steve As for incompatible chanhes there is one nasty incompatibility steve with PKCS#11 which EVP might have to address if we ever need a steve full PKCS#11 ENGINE. Even that though could

Re: LSB inclusion of OpenSSL

2005-11-07 Thread Dr. Stephen Henson
On Mon, Nov 07, 2005, Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 7 Nov 2005 13:37:19 +0100, Dr. Stephen Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: steve As for incompatible chanhes there is one nasty incompatibility steve with PKCS#11 which EVP might have to address if

Re: LSB inclusion of OpenSSL

2005-11-07 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:00:17 +0100, Dr. Stephen Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: steve The other is that its equivalent to EVP_CipherUpdate() and steve EVP_CipherFinal() which can output data in arbitrary sizes steve whereas our stuff will never be more than one block

Re: LSB inclusion of OpenSSL

2005-11-06 Thread Pradosh Adoni
On 10/27/05, Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:49:53 +0530, Pradosh Adoni [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: pradosh.adoni though it has been fairly established that the pradosh.adoni resulting ABI will in all probabilty break in

Re: Shared library version numbers [Was: LSB inclusion of OpenSSL]

2005-10-31 Thread Andy Polyakov
But I'll take up the cue and see what we can do that works everywhere. Then it would have to be the least common denominator: 97, 98, 100 or independent numbers such as 1, 2, 3. The above was referring to file suffixes. It should be noted that there're platforms, which has no notion of

Re: Shared library version numbers [Was: LSB inclusion of OpenSSL]

2005-10-31 Thread Andy Polyakov
... in PAM case I can imagine problem with GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE being cross-polluted by 0.9.7 and 0.9.8 being *both* mapped into same application. Is it the case? Can you elaborate on which symbols were overloaded? You can figure this out by examining dynamic name tables *in pam modules* with

Re: Shared library version numbers [Was: LSB inclusion of OpenSSL]

2005-10-30 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 09:46:30AM +0200, Andy Polyakov wrote: Now question to Johnny Lam [who is complaining that we don't bump versions] and Christoph Martin [who suggests to add versioning on all symbols]. What exactly didn't work for you? As far as I understand both NetBSD and Debian

Re: Shared library version numbers [Was: LSB inclusion of OpenSSL]

2005-10-29 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Oct 29, 2005 at 03:12:24AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Then when the dynamic linker looks for a symbol, it looks at it by name. It will go over all objects to see if it exists in it. It will use the symbol from the first library it finds it in. This means,

Re: Shared library version numbers [Was: LSB inclusion of OpenSSL]

2005-10-29 Thread Stefan . Neis
Hi, If you simply use the -Bsymbolic flag when building libA, doesn't that solve the problem as well? And in a more portable way, since vrsioned symbols don't exist on many platforms? AFAIK, the idea of the flag is that the library doesn't automatically doesn't resolve its

Re: Shared library version numbers [Was: LSB inclusion of OpenSSL]

2005-10-29 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Oct 29, 2005 at 02:45:51PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, If you simply use the -Bsymbolic flag when building libA, doesn't that solve the problem as well? And in a more portable way, since vrsioned symbols don't exist on many platforms? AFAIK, the idea of the

Re: Shared library version numbers [Was: LSB inclusion of OpenSSL]

2005-10-28 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 09:46:30AM +0200, Andy Polyakov wrote: Now question to Johnny Lam [who is complaining that we don't bump versions] and Christoph Martin [who suggests to add versioning on all symbols]. What exactly didn't work for you? As far as I understand both NetBSD and Debian

Re: Shared library version numbers [Was: LSB inclusion of OpenSSL]

2005-10-28 Thread Stefan . Neis
Hi, Then when the dynamic linker looks for a symbol, it looks at it by name. It will go over all objects to see if it exists in it. It will use the symbol from the first library it finds it in. This means, that a symbol that libA requires, and _should_ get from libssl.so.0.9.7, can

LSB inclusion of OpenSSL

2005-10-27 Thread Pradosh Adoni
Hi, (I had sent this mail earlier, but it didn't seem to make it to the list ) Carrying forward from earlier discussion threads which I have linked here for reference - http://www.mail-archive.com/openssl-dev@openssl.org/msg19662.html

Re: LSB inclusion of OpenSSL

2005-10-27 Thread Johnny Lam
Pradosh Adoni wrote: (I had sent this mail earlier, but it didn't seem to make it to the list ) Carrying forward from earlier discussion threads which I have linked here for reference - http://www.mail-archive.com/openssl-dev@openssl.org/msg19662.html

Re: LSB inclusion of OpenSSL

2005-10-27 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:49:53 +0530, Pradosh Adoni [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: pradosh.adoni though it has been fairly established that the pradosh.adoni resulting ABI will in all probabilty break in pradosh.adoni forthcoming (major) versions, It would be good to know

Re: LSB inclusion of OpenSSL

2005-10-27 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:01:23 -0400, Johnny Lam [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: jlam What makes you think that the OpenSSL developers will go to the jlam trouble to do all this major surgery to their codebase when they jlam won't do the very simple thing of just properly

Re: LSB inclusion of OpenSSL

2005-10-27 Thread Johnny Lam
Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:01:23 -0400, Johnny Lam [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: jlam What makes you think that the OpenSSL developers will go to the jlam trouble to do all this major surgery to their codebase when they jlam won't do the

LSB inclusion of OpenSSL

2005-10-23 Thread Pradosh Adoni
Hi, Carrying forward from earlier discussion threads which I have linked here for reference - http://www.mail-archive.com/openssl-dev@openssl.org/msg19662.html http://www.mail-archive.com/openssl-dev@openssl.org/msg19158.html though it has been fairly established that the ABI will in all