[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #2880] Resolved: Modification of the capi engine to support loading key from CERT_SYSTEM_STORE_LOCAL_MACHINE

2016-10-13 Thread Rich Salz via RT
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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #2902] Resolved: [PATCH] add strings for SSL state related to Next Protocol Negotiation

2016-10-13 Thread Rich Salz via RT
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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #2818] Resolved: [PATCH] Cipher list TLSv1.2 as token; ciphers(1) update

2016-10-13 Thread Rich Salz via RT
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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4698] PEM parsing incorrect; whitespace in PEM crashes parser

2016-10-13 Thread Rich Salz via RT
no need to keep this ticket, tracking the PR on github.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4682] PKITS tests fails with 1.0.2i on GNU/Linux

2016-09-22 Thread Rich Salz via RT
Duplicate of https://github.com/openssl/openssl/issues/1611

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4668] Enhancement request: website: support proper titles

2016-09-02 Thread Rich Salz via RT
The title now has the URL. Closing. Fixed as it's gonna get :)

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4666] Fix for setenv-android.sh

2016-09-01 Thread Rich Salz via RT
updated the wiki, thanks.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #2712] Be more liberal when trying to recognize the XMPP starttls headers

2016-08-25 Thread Rich Salz via RT
Now being discussed at https://github.com/openssl/openssl/issues/1494

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #2676] 1.0.1-beta1 issue: RSA exponent 1 is NOT ok

2016-08-22 Thread Rich Salz via RT
This is fixed in 1.0.2 (commit 561530d) and master/1.1.0 (commit 464d59a).
Thanks!

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #3940] Missing CRL checks in cms/smime cmdline utilities

2016-08-19 Thread Rich Salz via RT
For now we just added a comment to master, 1.0.2, 1.0.1 in the cms.pod and
smime.pod files:

Note that no revocation check is done for the recipient cert, so if that
key has been compromised, others may be able to decrypt the text.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4377] Prevent potential NULL pointer dereference in OpenSSL-1.0.2g (CWE-476)

2016-08-19 Thread Rich Salz via RT
Fixed with commit a03f81f, will be part of next 1.0.2 release. Thanks!

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4380] [PATCH] Missing Sanity Checks for EVP_PKEY_new() in OpenSSL-1.0.2g

2016-08-19 Thread Rich Salz via RT
Fixed with commit a03f81f, will be part of next 1.0.2 release. Thanks!

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4382] [PATCH] Missing Sanity Check(s) for BUF_strdup() in OpenSSL-1.0.2g

2016-08-19 Thread Rich Salz via RT
Fixed with commit a03f81f, will be part of next 1.0.2 release. Thanks!

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4375] [PATCH] Missing Sanity Checks for OPENSSL_malloc() in OpenSSL-1.0.2g

2016-08-19 Thread Rich Salz via RT
Fixed with commit a03f81f, will be part of next 1.0.2 release. Thanks!

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4385] [PATCH] Missing Sanity Checks for RSA_new_method() in OpenSSL-1.0.2g

2016-08-19 Thread Rich Salz via RT
Fixed with commit a03f81f, will be part of next 1.0.2 release. Thanks!

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4374] [PATCH] Potential for NULL pointer dereferences in OpenSSL-1.0.2g (CWE-476)

2016-08-19 Thread Rich Salz via RT
Fixed with commit a03f81f, will be part of next 1.0.2 release. Thanks!

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4371] [PATCH] Missing Sanity Check for malloc() in openssl-1.0.2g for 'apps/speed.c'

2016-08-19 Thread Rich Salz via RT
Fixed with commit a03f81f, will be part of next 1.0.2 release. Thanks!

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4370] [PATCH] Potential for NULL pointer dereferences in OpenSSL-1.0.2g (CWE-476)

2016-08-19 Thread Rich Salz via RT
Fixed with commit a03f81f, will be part of next 1.0.2 release. Thanks!

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4383] [PATCH] Add error checking for bn2_expand()/BN_new()/RSA_new_method() in file 'e_chil.c' for OpenSSL-1.0.2g

2016-08-19 Thread Rich Salz via RT
Fixed with commit a03f81f, will be part of next 1.0.2 release. Thanks!

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4384] [PATCH] Missing Sanity Check plus potential NULL pointer deref (CWE-476)

2016-08-19 Thread Rich Salz via RT
Fixed with commit a03f81f, will be part of next 1.0.2 release. Thanks!

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4386] [PATCH] Add sanity checks for BN_new() in OpenSSL-1.0.2g

2016-08-19 Thread Rich Salz via RT
Fixed with commit a03f81f, will be part of next 1.0.2 release. Thanks!

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4652] [consultation] SSL_get_error returns SSL_ERROR_SSL if read() returns -1 / EAGAIN

2016-08-19 Thread Rich Salz via RT
Same situation, please use a current/modern release; 1.0.1 is only getting
security fixes.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4652] [consultation] SSL_get_error returns SSL_ERROR_SSL if read() returns -1 / EAGAIN

2016-08-18 Thread Rich Salz via RT
need more content here. or post to openssl-users if you are just asking a
question.
https://mta.openssl.org for list information.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4651] [BUG] malloc_failure in ASN1_D2I_READ_BIO with large smime encoded file

2016-08-17 Thread Rich Salz via RT
You'll need to move to a machine with bigger int's. The code currently uses
int, not size_t.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4649] [PATCH] BIO_debug_callback could write before the beginning of a buffer

2016-08-16 Thread Rich Salz via RT
Probably better to do what we is done in master: "if (len<0)len=0;" and proceed
to try more output.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4643] [patch] pass EVP_MD to engines verifyctx_init and signctx_init

2016-08-09 Thread Rich Salz via RT
Closing per original poster.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4644] bug: cert verification always examining entire chain

2016-08-08 Thread Rich Salz via RT
as Viktor pointed out, working as designed.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4644] bug: cert verification always examining entire chain

2016-08-08 Thread Rich Salz via RT
You have to create a trust store with the CA's that you trust.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4628] EVP_f_cipher regression due to overlapping regions check

2016-07-31 Thread Rich Salz via RT
Resolved by Andy's fix. Closing.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4628] EVP_f_cipher regression due to overlapping regions check

2016-07-31 Thread Rich Salz via RT
Does current master work? I think Andy checked in a fix.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4635] BUG: 100% CPU in windows with openssl-1.0.2h

2016-07-30 Thread Rich Salz via RT
We need some details. Like which function(s) are using the CPU.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4629] OpenSSL Bug Report: -DSSL_DEBUG typo

2016-07-26 Thread Rich Salz via RT
commit 1abd292 pushed to master, thanks!

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4627] Doc patch: fix constant names

2016-07-25 Thread Rich Salz via RT
commit d49cfa3 pushed to master. thanks!

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4616] bug report

2016-07-20 Thread Rich Salz via RT
1.0.1 is an old release and only getting security updates. please move to 1.0.2
or 'master'

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4593] [PATCH] pod: fix nits related to spacing around commas and assignments

2016-07-19 Thread Rich Salz via RT
merged, thanks!

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4611] PKCS12_create() not thread-safe for ECDSA

2016-07-11 Thread Rich Salz via RT
ah, you're right, the lock in EC_KEY should be used. thanks.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4612] Appcrash on SSL_CTX_new(SSLv2_server_method()) on windows 7 x64 with OpenSSL-1.0.1t

2016-07-11 Thread Rich Salz via RT
SSLv2 method returns NULL now. Listed in the CHANGES file. SSLv2 has been
removed for security reasons. Do not use it. Also do not use such an old
release. :)

Closing ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4592] [docs] SSL_set_app_data() returns 'int', not 'void'

2016-07-08 Thread Rich Salz via RT
fixed in master.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4607] improve quietness for s_client ... also documentation for s_client + s_server

2016-07-05 Thread Rich Salz via RT
this is for 1.0.2, right?

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4594] openssl s_client issue on windows platform

2016-06-29 Thread Rich Salz via RT
Duplicate of RT 3464

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #2919] Incorrect return code and printing of modulus in dsa module

2016-06-27 Thread Rich Salz via RT
The exit value was fixed some time ago (not sure).
The -modulus flag is documented as printing out the public key :)

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #2777] OpenSSL 1.0.1 TLS Version Handling Errors

2016-06-27 Thread Rich Salz via RT
please open a new ticket if this is still an issue with current (at least
1.0.2, ideally master) sources.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4589] simplifying writing code that is 1.0.x and 1.1.x compatible

2016-06-27 Thread Rich Salz via RT
Look at the wiki, in particular
https://wiki.openssl.org/index.php/1.1_API_Changes#Adding_forward-compatible_code_to_older_versions

closing ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4586] RSA_memory_lock ?

2016-06-27 Thread Rich Salz via RT
removed the function. the secure-heap does most of this, anyway now. :)

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #2680] 1.0.1-beta1 issue: Public EC key is shown as private with -text option

2016-06-26 Thread Rich Salz via RT
fixed, but slightly differently. thanks!

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #3810] [PATCH] Improved P256 ECC performance by means of a dedicated function for modular inversion modulo the P256 group order

2016-06-26 Thread Rich Salz via RT
See https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/263 and discussion thread.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #2941] Memory leaks in ca.c

2016-06-26 Thread Rich Salz via RT
fixed in 1.1; apps/ca.c jumps to common code to free all memory.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #2271] [PATCH] building without some ciphers

2016-06-26 Thread Rich Salz via RT
The amount of source code/build dependency changes to make more of the
no-CIPHER configuration options work is more than we will do for 1.0.2. It is
fixed in 1.1. Closing ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #3880] [PATCH] Windows: Add definitions for AI_ constants

2016-06-26 Thread Rich Salz via RT
AI_NUMERICSERV isn't used any more. Is this patch for AI_ADDRCONFIG still
needed? The code in b_addr has it ifdef'd.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #3902] #3423: Undefined behavior in crypto/cast/c_enc.c

2016-06-26 Thread Rich Salz via RT
See RT 3423 and the links for why this is being rejected.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #3143] ENGINE_load_rdrand sane failure code

2016-06-26 Thread Rich Salz via RT
Seems to be a duplicate of RT 3421; closing.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4235] Crash on ssleay_rand_bytes - global variable is not protected

2016-06-26 Thread Rich Salz via RT
When it crashes, is k negative? I believe we already fixed this in master. with
commit 0f91e1dff4ab2e7c25bbae5a48dfabbd1a4eae3c (RT 2630).

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4298] [Bug] Random number generation failing with FIPS and Android < 5.0

2016-06-25 Thread Rich Salz via RT
There is not enough information to repeat. Please open a new ticket, post a
backtrace, or whatever.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #3886] [BUG] [PATCH] verify fails for 3-level cert chain when using X509v3 Authority Key Identifier

2016-06-25 Thread Rich Salz via RT
It's not clear there is a bug (in fact, the bug commentary says that). If so,
please open a new ticket with a PEM file of all the certs in the chain. Or
perhaps post to openssl-users mailing list.

Closing ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #3811] [BUG REPORT] - Missing register name in aes-x86_64.s

2016-06-25 Thread Rich Salz via RT
Cannot reproduce. Attempt to provide a work-around/fix hasn't had any response.
Closing ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4169] openssl-1.0.2e build still recommends deprecated (unnecessary?) `make depend`, returns numerous warnings abt not finding stddef.h

2016-06-25 Thread Rich Salz via RT
The warnings are annoying but harmless. running 'make depend' is required.
Closing ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #3016] openssl ts fix

2016-06-25 Thread Rich Salz via RT
No plans to do this. Please re-open the ticket if it's *really* needed for
interop.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #2964] OBJ_nid2obj() result value should be const

2016-06-25 Thread Rich Salz via RT
Updated the docs in master and 1.0.2 to explain that these really are
const-like objects.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #2911] enhancement request: Windows RT support

2016-06-25 Thread Rich Salz via RT
Nobody got around to looking at this, sorry. I could not decode the patch
although 103K is big. Windows RT is no longer supported. Closing ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4559] bug: CRYPTO_set_mem_functions() Doesn't Work in Version 1.0.1b

2016-06-24 Thread Rich Salz via RT
I just tried this against 1.0.2 and got a backtrace:
#0 0x77847c37 in __GI_raise (sig=sig@entry=6)
at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/raise.c:56
#1 0x7784b028 in __GI_abort () at abort.c:89
#2 0x00401cfe in my_alloc (n=176) at a.c:4
#3 0x0044e525 in default_malloc_ex (num=176, file=0x5ca5ce "lhash.c",
line=120) at mem.c:79
#4 0x0044ebb5 in CRYPTO_malloc (num=176, file=0x5ca5ce "lhash.c",
line=120) at mem.c:330
#5 0x00486d58 in lh_new (h=0x4515f7 ,
c=0x451619 ) at lhash.c:120
#6 0x0045167e in OBJ_NAME_init () at o_names.c:61
#7 0x00451a68 in OBJ_NAME_add (name=0x58bccb "DES-CBC", type=2,
data=0x5cace0  "\037") at o_names.c:185
#8 0x00490a31 in EVP_add_cipher (c=0x5cace0 ) at names.c:74
#9 0x00421d6e in SSL_library_init () at ssl_algs.c:68

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #3792] OpenSSL debug build lacks -Og

2016-06-24 Thread Rich Salz via RT
As Andy said, this flag is not ubiquitous and the workaround is to specify it
config time. Closing ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4586] RSA_memory_lock ?

2016-06-24 Thread Rich Salz via RT
I'ts not needed; the secure heap automatically puts all private key material in
secure storage, if enabled.
https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/1250 is an MR to remove it.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4587] openssl on arm linux run err!

2016-06-24 Thread Rich Salz via RT
The demo's don't all work, sadly.
OpenSSL 1.0.1 is very outdated and only gets security fixes; please try a
recent version.
closing ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #3499] Bug: Multiple matching certificates in CAfile

2016-06-23 Thread Rich Salz via RT
Fixed; see RT 3359 per Steve.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #3921] [PATCH] Fix const-correctness issues of new ECDSA_METHOD api

2016-06-23 Thread Rich Salz via RT
This API is gone. Closing ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4273] explicitText encoding

2016-06-23 Thread Rich Salz via RT
https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/576 Closing ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #3980] [PATCH] Fix BIO_get_accept_socket so that "port-only" input works on FreeBSD

2016-06-23 Thread Rich Salz via RT
https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/359 Closing ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4532] Replacing the “div_spoiler” hack in CBC code with Barrett reduction.

2016-06-23 Thread Rich Salz via RT
https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/1027 Closing ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4432] [BUG] Building with "no-des" fails at crypto/cms/cms_kari.c

2016-06-23 Thread Rich Salz via RT
https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/872 Closing ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4308] Add Postgres support to -starttls

2016-06-23 Thread Rich Salz via RT
https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/683 Closing ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4175] Add new macro or PKCS7 flag to disable the check for both data and content

2016-06-23 Thread Rich Salz via RT
fixed some time ago.,

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4121] avoid configuring openssl twice

2016-06-23 Thread Rich Salz via RT
https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/466 Closing ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4108] Set TLS ticket keys API

2016-06-23 Thread Rich Salz via RT
: https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/452 Closing ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4038] SSLv2 session reuse is broken on the 1.0.2 branch

2016-06-23 Thread Rich Salz via RT
https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/395 Closing ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #3986] [PATCH] Implement HKDF algorithm (RFC 5869)

2016-06-23 Thread Rich Salz via RT
https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/355 Closing ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #3709] [PATCH] Constness in SSL_CTX_set_srp_username and SSL_CTX_set_srp_password functions

2016-06-23 Thread Rich Salz via RT
https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/227 Closing ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #3616] [Patch] Implement option to disable sending TLS extensions

2016-06-23 Thread Rich Salz via RT
https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/215 Closing ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #3533] [PATCH] Ensures that EVP encryption & decryption operations check the encrypt flag on the context.

2016-06-23 Thread Rich Salz via RT
https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/172 Closing ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #3305] Cppcheck report

2016-06-23 Thread Rich Salz via RT
https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/139 Closing ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #2698] [PATCH] Allow the use of startdate and enddate for ca -gencrl command

2016-06-23 Thread Rich Salz via RT
This duplicates https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/258 so closing the
ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #2894] [Bug] openssl crl -nameopt has no effect

2016-06-23 Thread Rich Salz via RT
This was implemented some time ago (not sure who). The nmflag variable is used
in name_print in apps/crl.c Closing ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #2867] des_ede3_cfb1_cipher(): output cropping

2016-06-23 Thread Rich Salz via RT
fixed with commit fe2d149 in master. Not backported, code has changed.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4582] BUG - Application crashing in OpenSSL code while creating x509 certificate object

2016-06-22 Thread Rich Salz via RT
0.9.8 is no longer supported. Perhaps some others on openssl-users mailing list
can help you. Closing this ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #3752] Patch to fix thread ID support from FIPS module

2016-06-21 Thread Rich Salz via RT
commit a43cfd7 pushed to 1.0.2 stable, will show up in next release. thanks.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4579] Bug - libcrypto.a null pointer dereference bug

2016-06-20 Thread Rich Salz via RT
You are not supposed to pass NULL into OpenSSL API's. Just like doing this will
cause a crash
strcpy(NULL, "hello")
in a C program.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4398] BUG / 1.0.2g breaks CURL extension

2016-06-20 Thread Rich Salz via RT
We believe this is fixed by the commit that viktor pointed out. Is this not
true? What are folks asking OpenSSL to do?

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4376] pull request 785

2016-06-20 Thread Rich Salz via RT
There was some discussion over on the pull request thread,
https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/785 And there the feeling was this is a
new feature. Closing the ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4579] Bug - libcrypto.a null pointer dereference bug

2016-06-20 Thread Rich Salz via RT
When I added this line:
(if x509==NULL) { ERR_print_errors_fp(stderr); exit(1); }
it complained
140259630204736:error:0906D06C:PEM routines:PEM_read_bio:no start
line:crypto/pem/pem_lib.c:691:Expecting: CERTIFICATE


When I fixed the file to say "BEGIN CERTIFICATE" (added a space) and changed
the code to print the result of calling the verify routine, it all works.

Closing ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #3925] [PATCH] Removed trailing semicolon from macro body of three function-like macros

2016-06-20 Thread Rich Salz via RT
OpenSSL_1_0_2-stable commit 398260a; master commit 54f24e3
thanks.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4579] Bug - libcrypto.a null pointer dereference bug

2016-06-20 Thread Rich Salz via RT
1.0.1 is end of life and only getting bugfixes now.
If you can reproduce this on 1.0.2 or master, please open a new ticket.
We also need more information, cannot reproduce this issue here.
Thanks. closing ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #3934] [PATCH] test: use _DEFAULT_SOURCE with newer glibc versions

2016-06-20 Thread Rich Salz via RT
looks like someone already fixed this. closing ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4416] 1.0.1s makes porting to HP-UX much harder than before

2016-06-20 Thread Rich Salz via RT
Discussion happened in https://github.com/openssl/openssl/issues/806 (which
looks like it can be c losed). Closing this ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4570] Enhancement request: Configuration option no-hw-aes

2016-06-20 Thread Rich Salz via RT
Thanks for the discussion; closing this ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4469] Openssl linker errors

2016-06-20 Thread Rich Salz via RT
You have turned off so many things, that some files are not compiled. Try
building without all your no-xxx flags. You don't need to turn them all off,
the patents are expired.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #3868] [PATCH] Add SSL_get0_peer_certificate()

2016-06-20 Thread Rich Salz via RT
There will be no free since you've got the SSL lifetime. and esp for 1.1 which
uses atomics, closing this.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #3918] check return value of EC_POINT_mul

2016-06-20 Thread Rich Salz via RT
GOST is now a separate engine. Ping Dmitry :)

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #3868] [PATCH] Add SSL_get0_peer_certificate()

2016-06-20 Thread Rich Salz via RT
Is this needed? Can your get0 function just call get and decrement the
refcount?

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #3844] FW: regarding shared library for openssl -1.0.2a

2016-06-20 Thread Rich Salz via RT
A local environment/compiler issue that we cannot address. No activity in years
on this. closing ticket.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #3728] Question: does "sslv3" in log mean we're using SSLv3?

2016-06-20 Thread Rich Salz via RT
There are no plans, at this point, to change the names used in logging.
If you think it's worthwhile, please open a *github issue* for this.

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[openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4381] [PATCH] Missing Sanity Check for OBJ_nid2obj() in OpenSSL-1.0.2g

2016-06-20 Thread Rich Salz via RT
this is a "can't happen" kind of thing. If you pass in a NID_xxx value, you
MUST get back the object. They are two tables built in-sync.

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