OpenSSL ECCN query

2013-12-09 Thread Trebilcock, Richard
On the CGI IT UK Limited project  I am currently working on, we are looking to 
export OpenSSL as part of the overall software deliverable. As part of this 
process, we need to know whether OpenSSL is of United States origin, and if so 
what the ECCN number is, and does an ENC licence also apply?



I would be most grateful if you could provide me with this information. 
However, failing this, if you could direct me to where I might find the 
information I require this would also be very helpful.



Your assistance with this matter is most appreciated.



Best regards,



Richard

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Re: OpenSSL ECCN query

2013-12-09 Thread Steve Marquess
On 12/09/2013 07:35 AM, Trebilcock, Richard wrote:
 On the CGI IT UK Limited project  I am currently working on, we are
 looking to export OpenSSL as part of the overall software deliverable.
 As part of this process, we need to know whether OpenSSL is of United
 States origin, and if so what the ECCN number is, and does an ENC
 licence also apply?
 
  
 
 I would be most grateful if you could provide me with this information.
 However, failing this, if you could direct me to where I might find the
 information I require this would also be very helpful.

OpenSSL is not of U.S origin, as in it was developed and is maintained
outside of the U.S. by non-U.S. persons. I'm the only U.S. citizen or
resident with any direct involvement in OpenSSL and I'm not part of the
OpenSSL team proper (no commit privileges). However, be careful as U.S.
export controls are tricky. If I download crypto from outside the U.S.
and then immediately forward it to a non-U.S. destination then I may
have committed an export control violation. So where the crypto came
from initially isn't relevant, it's whether it leaves the U.S.

Yes, that doesn't make any sense. But that's why you need to be very
careful. You really need to consult with competent legal counsel
specializing in export law.

That said you may find Appendix F of the OpenSSL FIPS module User Guide
of use:

  http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/STM/cmvp/documents/140-1/140InProcess.pdf

Keep in mind that the FIPS module is *not* the same as OpenSSL and that
I'm not qualified to give legal advice.

-Steve M.

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Re: OpenSSL ECCN query

2013-12-09 Thread Technical Support
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On the CGI IT UK Limited project I am currently working on, we are looking to export OpenSSL as part of the overall software deliverable. As part of this process, we need to know whether OpenSSL is of United States origin, and if so
 what the ECCN number is, and does an ENC licence also apply? 
  
I would be most grateful if you could provide me with this information. However, failing this, if you could direct me to where I might find the information I require this would also be very helpful. 
  
Your assistance with this matter is most appreciated. 
  
Best regards, 
  
Richard 
  
Richard Trebilcock
| ILS Engineer
 
Defence | CGI
 
Chaucer House, Springfield Drive, The Office Park, Leatherhead, Surrey, KT22 7LP UK
 
T: +44 01372 838258 | M: +44 (0) 7717 355882
 
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