Re: [openssl-project] VOTE report: Push the release of 1.1.1 beta1 (pre3) forward one week

2018-03-12 Thread Richard Levitte 
The vote closes today with 6 +1's, 0 -1's and one not voted.

In other words, the 1.1.1 pre3 (beta1) release is pushed to Tuesday,
March 20th, and the dates following are to be adjusted accordingly.

Cheers,
Richard

In message <20180310.114546.780593698922932617.levi...@openssl.org> on Sat, 10 
Mar 2018 11:45:46 +0100 (CET), Richard Levitte  said:

levitte> I started a vote moments ago on the OMC list with the content that
levitte> follows.  The OMC will vote on it, hopefully on time, and the
levitte> resulting tally will be posted here.
levitte> 
levitte> Vote text:
levitte> 
levitte> NOTE: THREE DAY VOTE
levitte> Why?  Because beta1 is currently scheduled to be released in three
levitte> days.  A longer voting period would hold the release hostage in
levitte> practice, and thereby force a push of the release date regardless of
levitte> the vote result.
levitte> 
levitte> --
levitte> topic: Push the release of 1.1.1 beta1 (pre3) forward one week
levitte> 
levitte>Reason: we have a number of unreviewed PRs on github marked
levitte>1.1.1 and time is getting short.
levitte> 
levitte>All other current future release dates will be pushed one week 
as well.
levitte>https://www.openssl.org/policies/releasestrat.html will be 
updated.
levitte>An official announcement should be made.
levitte> Proposed by Richard Levitte
levitte> Public: yes
levitte> opened: 2018-03-10
levitte> closed: -mm-dd
levitte> THREE DAY VOTE!
levitte> 
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Re: [openssl-project] VOTE report: Push the release of 1.1.1 beta1 (pre3) forward one week

2018-03-10 Thread Salz, Rich 
>Well, the condition for this vote is a bit extraordinary as well.  I
couldn't in good conscience propose a week long vote, because that
potentially would have the effect to push the release a week anyway,
because the release would have to wait for the result of the vote.
  
We didn't plan well enough, and we didn't give ourselves enough time to 
re-evaluate. That is, deciding to ship the schedule should have happened at 
least seven days before the next release.  I think those are the key things we 
need to take away from this, not an attempt to change the voting process.


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Re: [openssl-project] VOTE report: Push the release of 1.1.1 beta1 (pre3) forward one week

2018-03-10 Thread Richard Levitte 
In message <20180310124318.ga26...@roeckx.be> on Sat, 10 Mar 2018 13:43:18 
+0100, Kurt Roeckx  said:

kurt> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 11:45:46AM +0100, Richard Levitte wrote:
kurt> > Vote text:
kurt> > 
kurt> > NOTE: THREE DAY VOTE
kurt> > Why?  Because beta1 is currently scheduled to be released in three
kurt> > days.  A longer voting period would hold the release hostage in
kurt> > practice, and thereby force a push of the release date regardless of
kurt> > the vote result.
kurt> 
kurt> As explained by Rich on the OMC list, we can't have that. I assume
kurt> it's a 1 week vote. But the vote can be closed earlier.

Well, the condition for this vote is a bit extraordinary as well.  I
couldn't in good conscience propose a week long vote, because that
potentially would have the effect to push the release a week anyway,
because the release would have to wait for the result of the vote.

Basically, it's a catch 22 that noone thought of...

Cheers,
Richard

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Re: [openssl-project] VOTE report: Push the release of 1.1.1 beta1 (pre3) forward one week

2018-03-10 Thread Kurt Roeckx 
On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 11:45:46AM +0100, Richard Levitte wrote:
> Vote text:
> 
> NOTE: THREE DAY VOTE
> Why?  Because beta1 is currently scheduled to be released in three
> days.  A longer voting period would hold the release hostage in
> practice, and thereby force a push of the release date regardless of
> the vote result.

As explained by Rich on the OMC list, we can't have that. I assume
it's a 1 week vote. But the vote can be closed earlier.


Kurt

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[openssl-project] VOTE report: Push the release of 1.1.1 beta1 (pre3) forward one week

2018-03-10 Thread Richard Levitte 
I started a vote moments ago on the OMC list with the content that
follows.  The OMC will vote on it, hopefully on time, and the
resulting tally will be posted here.

Vote text:

NOTE: THREE DAY VOTE
Why?  Because beta1 is currently scheduled to be released in three
days.  A longer voting period would hold the release hostage in
practice, and thereby force a push of the release date regardless of
the vote result.

--
topic: Push the release of 1.1.1 beta1 (pre3) forward one week

   Reason: we have a number of unreviewed PRs on github marked
   1.1.1 and time is getting short.

   All other current future release dates will be pushed one week as well.
   https://www.openssl.org/policies/releasestrat.html will be updated.
   An official announcement should be made.
Proposed by Richard Levitte
Public: yes
opened: 2018-03-10
closed: -mm-dd
THREE DAY VOTE!

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