AW: Being socially aware

2019-09-17 Thread Dr. Matthias St. Pierre
> I agree, this shouldn’t have been a “good first issue”. You might be right, but in hindsight it’s always easier to judge. In advance it was not at all obvious to me at all that this pull request would be discussed so controversially. For me, the task had all properties which in my view make

Re: Being socially aware

2019-09-17 Thread Paul Yang
I think this highly depends on a person’s character - sensitive or insensitive for instance. Communicating online makes it even harder to know one’s emotion behind the screens/comments. I am kinda agree with Richard that the issues with label "good first issue” could be treated a little more

Re: AW: Being socially aware

2019-09-17 Thread Richard Levitte
You forget that this is done in public, i.e. others are looking at how we treat those who do come forward and submit code to some bite size issue. So while @agnosticdev may have enough skin on his nose, onlookers that are considering whether they should contribute may not. On Tue, 17 Sep 2019

AW: Being socially aware

2019-09-17 Thread Dr. Matthias St. Pierre
I appreciate your concerns Richard, but I believe they are unwarranted in this case fortunately. First, my impression is that the discussion between was objective all the time and far from being heated up with emotions. Second, looking at the profile of the contributor, one can assert that he

Re: Being socially aware

2019-09-17 Thread Dr Paul Dale
I’m not disputing the great effort put into this. My dispute is that it should be under the openssl list command….. I agree, this shouldn’t have been a “good first issue”. Pauli -- Dr Paul Dale | Distinguished Architect | Cryptographic Foundations Phone +61 7 3031 7217 Oracle Australia >

Being socially aware

2019-09-16 Thread Richard Levitte
... or how our usual style of dispute can sometimes deter help from the community. https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/9912 In this PR, there's a lot of discussions going on, a bit back an forth, about the right way to do things, and what does what like what other thing and so on. This is