RE: BREACH vuln and ciphers

2013-08-06 Thread Salz, Rich
Ø This attack is compression at the application layer not ssl compression. TLS fails to protect the application layer data. SSL also fails to protect application layer data when the application decides to include key material. There are limits to what can be done. /r$ -- Pri

Re: BREACH vuln and ciphers

2013-08-06 Thread Rodney Beede
This attack is compression at the application layer not ssl compression. TLS fails to protect the application layer data. On Aug 6, 2013 10:18 AM, "Viktor Dukhovni" wrote: > On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 09:20:06AM -0500, Rodney Beede wrote: > > > Why can't we get a simplified version of TLS that has o

Re: BREACH vuln and ciphers

2013-08-06 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 09:20:06AM -0500, Rodney Beede wrote: > Why can't we get a simplified version of TLS that has only one option of > the most secure cipher and isn't vulnerable to things like BEAST, CRIME, or > BREACH? These are not TLS problems, these are a special case of cross-site HTML/