[openssl-users] Question on logjam

2015-05-20 Thread Chris Hill
Folks, can you pls confirm that none of the below ciphers are affected by
this logjam bug? From my understanding, only ciphers containing DH or DHE
would be affected.

TLS_RSA_EXPORT1024_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA (0x62)
TLS_RSA_EXPORT1024_WITH_RC4_56_SHA
TLS_RSA_EXPORT_WITH_RC4_40_MD5
TLS_RSA_EXPORT_WITH_RC2_CBC_40_MD5
TLS_RSA_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA

The above are weak (e.g. vulnerable to freak), no argument there, but just
want to ensure these are not vulnerable to this newly published bug.

Thanks all!
Chris.
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Re: SSL vs. SSH in the context of CVE 2014-0160

2014-04-09 Thread Chris Hill
Thanks Wim.


On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Wim Lewis w...@omnigroup.com wrote:


 On 8 Apr 2014, at 7:14 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
  Team, I am having a discussions with a few friends about why this
 OpenSSL vuln (CVE 2014-0160) does not affect SSH. This may be TOO basic for
 many of you (apologize in advance), but can't think of any other way to
 prove my point other than speaking to the folks who really know (that's u).
 Or maybe I am the one wrong, wouldn't be the first time ;).
 
  A quick response to my frieds could be simply diffing the files for the
 actual OpenSSL change, e.g. ssl/d1_both.c and ssl/t1_lib.c, but I want a
 more classy answer.
 
  Is the below ok or am I completely off?
 
  Thank you in advance
 
  SSH and SSL/TLS are simply different protocols (doh). They may share
 some similar underlying crypto implementations, but as of their respective
 RFCs, they are just different protocols. The TLS Heartbeat TLS extension
 would not apply to SSH. SSH may have its own way to keep alive, but that
 would be a different one.
 
  Chris.

 This is correct as I understand it. ssh uses openssl mostly for crypto
 operations, but the ssh protocol does not have anything in common with
 ssl/tls (other than some fairly general design aspects). The heartbeat bug
 is particular to the openssl implementation of the heartbeat feature in
 tls, and that code isn't used by openssh.


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