Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On 13-05-16 16:56, Steve Marquess wrote: We have considered this approach, in detail, and the comfort level isn't there. A requirement of their 501(c) status for such organizations is that they can't make any commitments as to how funds raised in our name will be spent. AIUI, the reason for

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-13 Thread Steve Marquess
On 05/13/2016 10:35 AM, Tucker Moreau wrote: > Hey, > > Have you considered reaching out to a group like Software in the > Public Interest and accepting donations through them? It's how Debian, > Arch, and several others take donations exactly so they don't have to > deal with the trouble of

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-13 Thread Tucker Moreau
Hey, Have you considered reaching out to a group like Software in the Public Interest and accepting donations through them? It's how Debian, Arch, and several others take donations exactly so they don't have to deal with the trouble of banks that you're going through now. Admittedly, it sounds

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-12 Thread Johann v . Preußen
dwolla: yes, i keyed off your comment re getting your last $'s from paypal and thought they would work for your donations: US, at least. and then somebody like Citi (a globally top-three credit card issuer) could handle accounts in GBP and EURO in London with a relatively small translation cost

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-12 Thread Steve Marquess
On 05/12/2016 09:39 AM, Steve Marquess wrote: > On 05/11/2016 06:04 PM, Johann v. Preußen wrote: >> i am sorry if i have wasted your time on non-profit formation and >> taxation issues when i put my CPA hat on. i originally meant to point >> out some banking alternatives and how to make certain

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-12 Thread Steve Marquess
On 05/11/2016 06:04 PM, Johann v. Preußen wrote: > i am sorry if i have wasted your time on non-profit formation and > taxation issues when i put my CPA hat on. i originally meant to point > out some banking alternatives and how to make certain you could qualify > and control such with the

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-11 Thread Johann v . Preußen
i am sorry if i have wasted your time on non-profit formation and taxation issues when i put my CPA hat on. i originally meant to point out some banking alternatives and how to make certain you could qualify and control such with the non-profit formation as a means and California as a low-cost

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-11 Thread Steve Marquess
On 05/11/2016 04:56 PM, Johann v. Preußen wrote: > i am somewhat surprised your attorneys have not mentioned the most > simplistic solution. if the sole purpose for incorporating is to > implement banking, there is actually no need to register for an IRS > letter. if you satisfy the state

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-11 Thread Johann v . Preußen
i am somewhat surprised your attorneys have not mentioned the most simplistic solution. if the sole purpose for incorporating is to implement banking, there is actually no need to register for an IRS letter. if you satisfy the state regulations and obtain an EIN you are fine. the IRS letter

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-11 Thread Steve Marquess
On 05/11/2016 02:46 PM, Johann v. Preußen wrote: > Marquess: > > your treasury re-alignment might be simplified a bit if you look to an > on-line-type bank such as Ally Bank. ... It's a U.S. bank. We already have multiple U.S. bank accounts. > you have mentioned server-siting and non-US

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-11 Thread Johann v . Preußen
Marquess: your treasury re-alignment might be simplified a bit if you look to an on-line-type bank such as Ally Bank. while they are not on the SWIFT network, they use Chase -- like many intermediate-sized banks -- and benefit from having the "wholesale" rate between themselves. this enables

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-10 Thread Steve Marquess
On 05/05/2016 04:41 PM, Steve Marquess wrote: > We've had a PayPal account for years, as the most convenient way for > individuals to send small donations. However, as the person who has > managed that account I can attest that PayPal has always been rather > annoying to deal with, and I've

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-09 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Steve Marquess wrote: > We've had a PayPal account for years, as the most convenient way for > individuals to send small donations. However, as the person who has > managed that account I can attest that PayPal has always been rather

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-09 Thread mlrx
Le 06/05/2016 17:06, Steve Marquess a écrit : > [...] > > That is definitely true, which is how I was able to get our local U.S. > bank here to allow signature access to our accounts by non-U.S. > colleagues. It's important that our OpenSSL funding not be accessible by > only one person, as that

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-06 Thread Salz, Rich
> Seriously, > As copyright owners you can rescind license permissions as you wish. > > Contact this person: > https://www.irs.gov/uac/Commissioner-John-Koskinen > and give them 30 days to purge any and all use of OpenSSL from the irs.gov > network. > A specific license withdrawal. > > You

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-06 Thread Mike
On Fri, 6 May 2016 08:06:48 -0400 Steve Marquess wrote: > On 05/06/2016 07:45 AM, Salz, Rich wrote: > >> Consider having the non-U.S. person do the account setup too. > >> > >> Banks are as scared of US jurisdiction as crypto engineers. > > > > Yeah, we've done that. Even

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-06 Thread Steve Marquess
On 05/06/2016 10:44 AM, Bear Giles wrote: > Is it possible to set up two accounts, one US and one non-US, and then > just transfer funds between them? It would be more work than setting up > a single account but would eliminate a single point of failure risk. Our U.S. bank has been great to work

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-06 Thread Steve Marquess
On 05/06/2016 10:29 AM, Jakob Bohm wrote: > On 06/05/2016 15:26, Steve Marquess wrote: >> On 05/06/2016 09:14 AM, Jakob Bohm wrote: >>> On 06/05/2016 13:45, Salz, Rich wrote: > Consider having the non-U.S. person do the account setup too. > > Banks are as scared of US jurisdiction as

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-06 Thread Bear Giles
Is it possible to set up two accounts, one US and one non-US, and then just transfer funds between them? It would be more work than setting up a single account but would eliminate a single point of failure risk. Bear On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Jakob Bohm wrote: > On

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-06 Thread Jakob Bohm
On 06/05/2016 15:26, Steve Marquess wrote: On 05/06/2016 09:14 AM, Jakob Bohm wrote: On 06/05/2016 13:45, Salz, Rich wrote: Consider having the non-U.S. person do the account setup too. Banks are as scared of US jurisdiction as crypto engineers. Yeah, we've done that. Even to the point

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-06 Thread Steve Marquess
On 05/06/2016 09:14 AM, Jakob Bohm wrote: > On 06/05/2016 13:45, Salz, Rich wrote: >>> Consider having the non-U.S. person do the account setup too. >>> >>> Banks are as scared of US jurisdiction as crypto engineers. >> Yeah, we've done that. Even to the point where one of the team was >> going

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-06 Thread Jakob Bohm
On 06/05/2016 13:45, Salz, Rich wrote: Consider having the non-U.S. person do the account setup too. Banks are as scared of US jurisdiction as crypto engineers. Yeah, we've done that. Even to the point where one of the team was going to get on a plane to fly to the Isle of Mann. It's

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-06 Thread Steve Marquess
On 05/06/2016 07:45 AM, Salz, Rich wrote: >> Consider having the non-U.S. person do the account setup too. >> >> Banks are as scared of US jurisdiction as crypto engineers. > > Yeah, we've done that. Even to the point where one of the team was going to > get on a plane to fly to the Isle of

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-06 Thread Salz, Rich
> Consider having the non-U.S. person do the account setup too. > > Banks are as scared of US jurisdiction as crypto engineers. Yeah, we've done that. Even to the point where one of the team was going to get on a plane to fly to the Isle of Mann. It's amazingly painful and difficult and so

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-06 Thread Jakob Bohm
On 06/05/2016 12:36, Steve Marquess wrote: On 05/06/2016 04:40 AM, Michel wrote: Hi steve, Isn't it conceivable to ask one of the European payment service provider to sponsor you by offering a free account / accesss to their plateform ? I know some which are secured only with the help of your

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-06 Thread Steve Marquess
On 05/06/2016 04:40 AM, Michel wrote: > Hi steve, > > Isn't it conceivable to ask one of the European payment service provider to > sponsor you by offering a free account / accesss to their plateform ? > I know some which are secured only with the help of your product. > They should be proud to

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-06 Thread Michel
- De : openssl-users [mailto:openssl-users-boun...@openssl.org] De la part de Steve Marquess Envoyé : vendredi 6 mai 2016 01:00 À : openssl-users@openssl.org Objet : Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal Note we would qualify to have a direct "merchant account" with one of the major c

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-06 Thread Jakob Bohm
On 06/05/2016 00:59, Steve Marquess wrote: On 05/05/2016 06:34 PM, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz wrote: What about stripe? ... I think I may have looked at that before, but I'll revisit it. Note we would qualify to have a direct "merchant account" with one of the major credit card processors, but

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-05 Thread debbie10t
On 06/05/16 01:08, Steve Marquess wrote: On 05/05/2016 07:52 PM, debbie10t wrote: Hello, On 05/05/16 21:41, Steve Marquess wrote: We've had a PayPal account for years, as the most convenient way for individuals to send small donations. However, as the person who has managed that account I

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-05 Thread Steve Marquess
On 05/05/2016 07:52 PM, debbie10t wrote: > Hello, > > On 05/05/16 21:41, Steve Marquess wrote: >> We've had a PayPal account for years, as the most convenient way for >> individuals to send small donations. However, as the person who has >> managed that account I can attest that PayPal has always

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-05 Thread debbie10t
Hello, On 05/05/16 21:41, Steve Marquess wrote: We've had a PayPal account for years, as the most convenient way for individuals to send small donations. However, as the person who has managed that account I can attest that PayPal has always been rather annoying to deal with, and I've finally

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-05 Thread Steve Marquess
On 05/05/2016 06:34 PM, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz wrote: > What about stripe? > > ... I think I may have looked at that before, but I'll revisit it. Note we would qualify to have a direct "merchant account" with one of the major credit card processors, but found out there is a requirement that

Re: [openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-05 Thread Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
What about stripe? Le 5 mai 2016 4:57 PM, "Steve Marquess" a écrit : > We've had a PayPal account for years, as the most convenient way for > individuals to send small donations. However, as the person who has > managed that account I can attest that PayPal has

[openssl-users] good riddance to PayPal

2016-05-05 Thread Steve Marquess
We've had a PayPal account for years, as the most convenient way for individuals to send small donations. However, as the person who has managed that account I can attest that PayPal has always been rather annoying to deal with, and I've finally hit my limit. I'm in the process of closing that