RE: Novell Spam

2001-01-12 Thread ATZ


It was fixed by
our postmaster as soon as we were made aware of the situation.

NOT true. I did send a message on January 10th 2001 23:25 +01.00 to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the kind request to solve this problem.

After 24 hours we all still got the Novell message from the list.

I don't consider 24 hours as soon as. Anyway, it is solved now.

Bye,


Boudewijn 

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Re: Novell Spam

2001-01-11 Thread dreamwvr

THX it was driving me bonkers..!
Dale Peakall wrote:

 Would every subscriber in the U.S. please call Novell's toll free number:
 1-800-453-1267
 and ask to speak to D.N. Johnson about the spam on this list.

 It's a disgrace that their software is so broken and is really getting on my
 nerves.

 I was going to forward every message I received back to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 but unfortunately outlooks mail filtering is just broken.  Perhaps, you
 might like to
 configure your systems to notify novell of the problem in this manner.

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Re: Novell Spam

2001-01-11 Thread Michael H. Warfield

On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 09:10:13PM -, Dale Peakall wrote:
 Would every subscriber in the U.S. please call Novell's toll free number:
 1-800-453-1267
 and ask to speak to D.N. Johnson about the spam on this list.

 It's a disgrace that their software is so broken and is really getting on my
 nerves.

Oh, I see why we can't get rid of them...  Some quick poking with
"which" indicates that there seems to be no-one with an E-Mail address of
Novell.com subscribed to the list and neither of those names show up either.
So it must be getting forwarded to them from some other address, which we
can't determine and the brain damaged Novell software is failing to return
the message headers which would reveal that information.

This kind of shit drives me nuts when it happens on one of my lists.

 I was going to forward every message I received back to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 but unfortunately outlooks mail filtering is just broken.  Perhaps, you
 might like to
 configure your systems to notify novell of the problem in this manner.

Ordinarily, I would recommend against such actions.  However, it
is their broken software which is doing this and it's their broken software
which is failing to provide the necessary information which would solve the
problem.  The fact that they are the VENDOR of the brain damaged software,
just makes it perfect.  If they don't take appropriate action REAL SOON,
then I do think that it would be appropriate for someone to grace Mr
Johnson's mailbox with a copy of each bounce so he can appreciate
and gage for himself the magnitude of the problem that their broken software
is creating.  DO NOT SEND MORE THAN ONE COPY FOR EACH COPY RECEIVED OR ADD
ANY ADDITIONAL ATTACHMENTS!  That would constitute harassment, and we don't
want to harass them.

Cc'ed to Mr Johnson...

Mr Johnson, I would strongly recommend that you address this group
with some answers as to exactly WHAT you are doing to resolve this problem!

Mike
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RE: Novell Spam

2001-01-11 Thread Anselmi, David

Seems to me that the list is broken, not Novell.

The listserv sends Novell a message for a user they don't have.  Novell
sends a reply that says 'don't have that'.  We all see the message.  The
reply-to field points to the list, which is normal, that's why the messages
show up here.

The fix is to take these two users off the list.  I've asked the list owner
to do that.

-Original Message-
From: Dale Peakall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 2:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Novell Spam


Would every subscriber in the U.S. please call Novell's toll free number:
1-800-453-1267
and ask to speak to D.N. Johnson about the spam on this list.

It's a disgrace that their software is so broken and is really getting on my
nerves.

I was going to forward every message I received back to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
but unfortunately outlooks mail filtering is just broken.  Perhaps, you
might like to
configure your systems to notify novell of the problem in this manner.


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Re: Novell Spam

2001-01-11 Thread geoffrey

Here's a procmail recipe that works!

:0:
* ^From:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
{
:0
! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
}

:0:
* ^From:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
/dev/null

It also tosses the emails so you don't see them. I've been forwarding the
crap back to djohnson most of the day!

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RE: Novell Spam

2001-01-11 Thread LI,YING (HP-Cupertino,ex1)

Could somebody hele me stop this message?

thanks
Ying li

-Original Message-
From: Dale Peakall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 1:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Novell Spam


Would every subscriber in the U.S. please call Novell's toll free number:
1-800-453-1267
and ask to speak to D.N. Johnson about the spam on this list.

It's a disgrace that their software is so broken and is really getting on my
nerves.

I was going to forward every message I received back to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
but unfortunately outlooks mail filtering is just broken.  Perhaps, you
might like to
configure your systems to notify novell of the problem in this manner.


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Re: Novell Spam

2001-01-11 Thread Michael H. Warfield

On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 08:51:28PM +, Anthony Chatman wrote:
 Couldn't we just 550 their bastarded mail server? :)

No, "we" can't.  It would have to be the listserver.  And
I personally vote to 450 it and plug up their spool system.

 Michael H. Warfield wrote:

  On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 09:10:13PM -, Dale Peakall wrote:
  
  Would every subscriber in the U.S. please call Novell's toll free number:
  1-800-453-1267
  and ask to speak to D.N. Johnson about the spam on this list.
  
  
  It's a disgrace that their software is so broken and is really getting on my
  nerves.
  
  
  Oh, I see why we can't get rid of them...  Some quick poking with
  "which" indicates that there seems to be no-one with an E-Mail address of
  Novell.com subscribed to the list and neither of those names show up either.
  So it must be getting forwarded to them from some other address, which we
  can't determine and the brain damaged Novell software is failing to return
  the message headers which would reveal that information.
  
  This kind of shit drives me nuts when it happens on one of my lists.
  
  
  I was going to forward every message I received back to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  but unfortunately outlooks mail filtering is just broken.  Perhaps, you
  might like to
  configure your systems to notify novell of the problem in this manner.
  
  
  Ordinarily, I would recommend against such actions.  However, it
  is their broken software which is doing this and it's their broken software
  which is failing to provide the necessary information which would solve the
  problem.  The fact that they are the VENDOR of the brain damaged software,
  just makes it perfect.  If they don't take appropriate action REAL SOON,
  then I do think that it would be appropriate for someone to grace Mr
  Johnson's mailbox with a copy of each bounce so he can appreciate
  and gage for himself the magnitude of the problem that their broken software
  is creating.  DO NOT SEND MORE THAN ONE COPY FOR EACH COPY RECEIVED OR ADD
  ANY ADDITIONAL ATTACHMENTS!  That would constitute harassment, and we don't
  want to harass them.
  
  Cc'ed to Mr Johnson...
  
  Mr Johnson, I would strongly recommend that you address this group
  with some answers as to exactly WHAT you are doing to resolve this problem!
  
  Mike
 
 
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Re: Novell Spam

2001-01-11 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker

From: "Randall S. Winchester" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

rsw Actually the openssl-users list software is broken if it will allow
rsw mailer-daemon email to get posted to the group. This type of bounce is
rsw supposed to go to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address.
rsw 
rsw These are not just Novel.com issues here. Another thing the
rsw owner-openssl-users maintainer could do is to remove the bouncing
rsw individuals off the list, as they do not appear to be around any more.
rsw 
rsw I wish the list maintainer would fix this

A bounce should go back to the sender regardless of reply-to:.  The
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