[Openstack] multi-nic blueprint - data migration

2011-03-28 Thread Ishimoto, Ryu
Hi All, I was looking at the multi-nic blueprint( https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nova-multi-nic), and in particular: 1) removing mac_address column from the instances table and creating a mac_addresses table. This is for storing which instances own which mac addresses as well as

[Openstack] Feature Freeze status

2011-03-28 Thread Thierry Carrez
Hi everyone, We have had quite a few branches that filed for feature freeze exceptions, and the following have been granted an exception for late merging until Tuesday EOD, so they need your attention: https://code.launchpad.net/~blamar/nova/openstack-api-1-1-images/+merge/53942

Re: [Openstack] Federated Identity Management (bursting and zones)

2011-03-28 Thread Khaled Hussein
I personally think that having an external Identity Management solution is the best option. In my mind there are vare valuable benefits for having a highly scalable, enterprise class, identity management solution on OpenStack such as (1) Separation of concerns of Authentication and Authorization

Re: [Openstack] Federated Identity Management (bursting and zones)

2011-03-28 Thread John Purrier
Agree that this is a tricky technical issue, and I agree that the issue of management of Authn and Authz should be external to Nova and all other OpenStack components. I believe there are two fundamental problems to be solved and that we will confuse ourselves if we try to mix them together:

Re: [Openstack] Feature Freeze status

2011-03-28 Thread John Purrier
Hi Thierry, in addition to the technical sessions for Nova, Swift, and Glance at the design summit, I have asked Stephen to add Project and Release management. You will own the time slots, once the PTL's are on board we will discuss how best to schedule the sessions. Thanks, John -Original

Re: [Openstack] Feature Freeze status

2011-03-28 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: I'd like to say that I dislike this type of behind closed doors development, where things are developed without a blueprint, bug or linked branch and then thrown very late into the review queue. We do an open source

Re: [Openstack] Federated Identity Management (bursting and zones)

2011-03-28 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
Agreed, Pluggable option 2 with a default OAuth implementation seems like the best strategy. Vish On Mar 28, 2011, at 9:42 AM, Khaled Hussein wrote: I was thinking of having OAuth implementation for authorization/delegation in an external identity management solution, option 2 :). The IdM

Re: [Openstack] Feature Freeze status

2011-03-28 Thread Justin Santa Barbara
No objection to a discussion during the summit, but I've been able to watch all of these branches and others evolve here: https://code.launchpad.net/nova For example, when I wanted to add VNC support because my system wouldn't boot, it was easy for me to look at the vnc_console branch and get the

Re: [Openstack] Feature Freeze status

2011-03-28 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Justin Santa Barbara jus...@fathomdb.com wrote: No objection to a discussion during the summit, but I've been able to watch all of these branches and others evolve here:  https://code.launchpad.net/nova For example, when I wanted to add VNC support because my

Re: [Openstack] Feature Freeze status

2011-03-28 Thread John Purrier
The problem we've been having revolves around the fact that we have dozens of developers working on Nova, with no real guidance as to the long-term direction of the project, and teams just doing whatever the heck they want to, without ML discussion and blueprints, and then expecting people to

Re: [Openstack] Feature Freeze status

2011-03-28 Thread Justin Santa Barbara
Rubbish. Open development means knowing the general directions and specifications that people are working on by open discussions, open blueprints/specs, and active communication between teams. I can go to github and see how many people forked this (ugh.). That doesn't give me any clue as to

Re: [Openstack] Feature Freeze status

2011-03-28 Thread Todd Willey
Open == Accessible. Open != Verbose. I'm willing to discuss more at the design summit, but my biggest concern is that we let the most people possible can contribute. This includes those who work behind closed doors on their own pet projects. This thread started specifically in response to a

Re: [Openstack] Feature Freeze status

2011-03-28 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Todd Willey t...@ansolabs.com wrote: Open == Accessible.  Open != Verbose.  I'm willing to discuss more at the design summit, but my biggest concern is that we let the most people possible can contribute.  This includes those who work behind closed doors on

Re: [Openstack] Feature Freeze status

2011-03-28 Thread Soren Hansen
2011/3/28 Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org: I'd like to say that I dislike this type of behind closed doors development, where things are developed without a blueprint, bug or linked branch and then thrown very late into the review queue. I'd appreciate a discussion about this at the

Re: [Openstack] Federated Identity Management (bursting and zones)

2011-03-28 Thread Sandy Walsh
one last note for completeness: http://etherpad.openstack.org/r7eSWs0b8k http://etherpad.openstack.org/r7eSWs0b8k Thanks Vish ... that's what I was looking for. For others: https://code.launchpad.net/~anso/nova/authn_and_authz/+merge/52119

Re: [Openstack] Feature Freeze status

2011-03-28 Thread Rick Clark
Blueprints serve three purposes. I don't claim they do them well, or that we are using them well 1) they help us schedule technical discussions at the summit. We could obviously do it some other way, but that is on of the current uses. 2) They let the various dev groups know what is being

Re: [Openstack] Federated Identity Management (bursting and zones)

2011-03-28 Thread Soren Hansen
There's prior art to OAuth from the cmdline. Anything that interacts with Launchpad's API does it. See e.g. bzr lp-propose-merge. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe :

Re: [Openstack] Feature Freeze status

2011-03-28 Thread Ewan Mellor
-Original Message- From: Todd Willey Sent: 28 March 2011 21:11 To: Jay Pipes Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] Feature Freeze status [Snip] Clearly blueprints are about process and not about code. Merge proposals are a hybrid of code and process.

Re: [Openstack] Feature Freeze status

2011-03-28 Thread Sandy Walsh
+1 From: Ewan Mellor [ewan.mel...@eu.citrix.com] Blueprints should be regarded in the same way as docstrings. Sure, you can write the code faster without docstrings, and the code will work just as well, but it will take everyone else twice as long

Re: [Openstack] Feature Freeze status

2011-03-28 Thread Todd Willey
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Ewan Mellor ewan.mel...@eu.citrix.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Todd Willey Sent: 28 March 2011 21:11 To: Jay Pipes Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] Feature Freeze status [Snip] Clearly blueprints are about process