Re: [Openstack] nova state machine simplification and clarification

2012-05-24 Thread Matt Joyce
I love graphviz as a charting tool and sphinx support inline is great. Used to use it all the time at nebula in the work wiki. -Matt On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/24/2012 10:46 AM, Yun Mao wrote: Sandy, I like the suggestion of graphvis,

Re: [Openstack] [metering] high-level design proposal

2012-05-22 Thread Matt Joyce
My point of concern. \ If an agent is being built into the compute nodes, that would best be a split out project. Two major reasons. First and foremost sub projects should not be spinning up their own agents. Secondly, there is a use case of agents outside of metering. If an agent is to be

Re: [Openstack] [metering] high-level design proposal

2012-05-22 Thread Matt Joyce
libvirt can pull hard cpu stats. which can be useful. for instance it can pick out the cpu generation names. -matt On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Doug Hellmann doug.hellm...@dreamhost.comwrote: On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 4:35 PM, James R Penick pen...@yahoo-inc.comwrote: - In addition to

Re: [Openstack] [client] Event handling

2012-05-11 Thread Matt Joyce
well like every time we make an api query in the shell we get a return result from the query. how are we handling those return results and evaluating codes etc? On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Doug Hellmann doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Matt Joyce

[Openstack] [client] Event handling

2012-05-10 Thread Matt Joyce
How are we doing event handling in the client? Is there a blueprint on this somewhere? -Matt ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help :

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Client Followup

2012-05-02 Thread Matt Joyce
. Separate admin apps for each project. I think we should avoid 3, since that goes against the spirit of this project. I like #2, but #1 would be easy to implement and could share 99% of the code from the basic openstackclient. On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Matt Joyce m...@nycresistor.com wrote

Re: [Openstack] [Openstack-operators] OpenStack Client Followup

2012-05-02 Thread Matt Joyce
project. I think we should avoid 3, since that goes against the spirit of this project. I like #2, but #1 would be easy to implement and could share 99% of the code from the basic openstackclient. On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Matt Joyce m...@nycresistor.com wrote: How does this blueprint

Re: [Openstack] [client] final openstackclient binary name

2012-05-02 Thread Matt Joyce
Whatever. stack.sh is a conflict. So probably better. On May 2, 2012 11:20 AM, Doug Hellmann doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com wrote: Oops, I saw the code change before this message and I went ahead and approved it. On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com wrote: There

Re: [Openstack] [Openstack-operators] OpenStack Client Followup

2012-05-02 Thread Matt Joyce
Good to have options. On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Duncan McGreggor dun...@dreamhost.com wrote: On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Matt Joyce m...@nycresistor.com wrote: I disagree pretty strongly with the idea of an admin binary. I think many of us do; I (and I believe Doug) were simply

Re: [Openstack] [client] creating blueprints for the unified CLI project

2012-05-02 Thread Matt Joyce
I skipped out on blue printing and just submitted a gerrit review for adding argparse flags for specifying URL for specific APIs. Is that cool or do we want blue prints at that level of low complexity? -Matt On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 2,

Re: [Openstack] [client] creating blueprints for the unified CLI project

2012-05-02 Thread Matt Joyce
I skipped out on blue printing and just submitted a gerrit review for adding argparse flags for specifying URL for specific APIs. Why is this needed?  These URLs come from the service catalog.  Cases where you do need to override that use --os-url as part of token flow auth, skipping the

Re: [Openstack] [client] OpenStack Client Followup

2012-05-01 Thread Matt Joyce
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Adam Spiers aspi...@suse.com wrote: Doug Hellmann (doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com) wrote: On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Doug Hellmann doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com wrote: Do we need to

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Client Followup

2012-05-01 Thread Matt Joyce
How does this blueprint play into this client. Is it a separate admin only client or just a subset of this guy? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/admin-cli -matt On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Adam Spiers

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Client Followup

2012-05-01 Thread Matt Joyce
As far as whether we support admin-only commands, I think we should. If they have their own client libs then we'll split them up too.  I actually kind of liked the side effect of the old nova-manage in that it was self-enforcing for admin-ness since you needed to run it on the node itself. I

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Client Followup

2012-04-30 Thread Matt Joyce
 2. I think it would be good if the HIG gave guidelines on how the     command should behave when run with no arguments. I think the marines call this sort of thing, Task Condition and Standard. Not sure how useful it would be.  3. I think it would be good if the HIG recommended that, at

Re: [Openstack] Mailing-list split

2012-04-27 Thread Matt Joyce
Makes sense to me. On Apr 27, 2012 2:27 PM, Everett Toews everett.to...@cybera.ca wrote: I like this idea but what happens to the openstack-operators list in this scenario? I don't think we'd want to have the openstack and openstack-operators list going along in parallel since it sounds like

Re: [Openstack] Encrypted virtual machines

2012-04-26 Thread Matt Joyce
, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 09:05:41AM -0700, Matt Joyce wrote: From a security stand point I am curious what you see the benefit as? Consider that you might have separate people in your data center managing the virtualization hosts, vs the storage hosts

Re: [Openstack] Encrypted virtual machines

2012-04-26 Thread Matt Joyce
can raise the bar a long way. Anyone from Intel / familiar with Intel's trusted cloud work want to explain better than I can? Justin On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Matt Joyce m...@nycresistor.com wrote: As far as storage is concerned, certainly a cloud storage environment could

Re: [Openstack] Monitoring / Billing Architecture proposed

2012-04-22 Thread Matt Joyce
Correct me if I am wrong but mongo has not been used in openstack previously? What is the benefit here that justifies bringing in new technology? Also are you planning an active polling process over AMPQ or passive listening for the monitor? It seems to me that most of the main components today

Re: [Openstack] Monitoring / Billing Architecture proposed

2012-04-22 Thread Matt Joyce
Monitoring and billing seem to be two VERY different beasts. Should we be separating the two efforts? On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Brian Schott brian.sch...@nimbisservices.com wrote: The heart of nova-biling is built around accounts, resources, billing segments with a tariff and cost.  Not

Re: [Openstack] Resource utilization

2012-04-20 Thread Matt Joyce
I've done libvirt calls via nrpe in the past for this. On Apr 20, 2012 5:28 AM, Leander Bessa leande...@gmail.com wrote: I've been trying to complete the diagnostics command for libvirt, so far i think i can get the cpu usage (still need a sample time of 1 second), volume and network io. I

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Client Followup

2012-04-19 Thread Matt Joyce
Reminds me of the Opsware Global Shell. That was built on a FUSE fs interface to the API. I loved it when I worked on it. -Matt On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com wrote: We had a good discussion about a unified OpenStack command line client on Monday at the

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Client Followup

2012-04-19 Thread Matt Joyce
I'd be down with helping out as well. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Doug Hellmann doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com wrote: We had a good discussion about a unified OpenStack command line client on Monday at the Design

Re: [Openstack] [Openstack-operators] WebEx Sessions Expired... (was: Remote participation from Design Summit)

2012-04-18 Thread Matt Joyce
I'm willing to help with setting up a 2.0 solution. =D Let us know what we can do to help for next time. I think this webex stuff has been useful for more than a few folks from what i've seen on IRC. -Matt On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Duncan McGreggor dun...@dreamhost.com wrote: Hey all,

Re: [Openstack] [Openstack-operators] Remote participation from Design Summit (and conference)

2012-04-16 Thread Matt Joyce
http://wiki.openstack.org/FolsomSummitEtherpads All the etherpads On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Duncan McGreggor dun...@dreamhost.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Stefano Maffulli stef...@openstack.org wrote: On Wed, 2012-04-11 at 23:13 -0400, Duncan McGreggor wrote: The

Re: [Openstack] [Openstack-operators] Health Monitoring Blueprints

2012-04-11 Thread Matt Joyce
Problem of course is many operators aren't on the design summit contributor list ( ala don't have codes to get into it ) and if it's later it's 500 USD to attend. Maybe not the best means of collaborating on something that effects them deeply. Pondering that. -Matt On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 1:43

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