Re: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine

2011-01-17 Thread Ewan Mellor
January 2011 18:02 To: Diego Parrilla Santamaría Cc: Ewan Mellor; openstack@lists.launchpad.net; John Purrier Subject: Re: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine 2011/1/14 Diego Parrilla Santamaría diego.parrilla.santama...@gmail.com: Well... VMX is probably too VMware oriented

Re: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine

2011-01-17 Thread Ewan Mellor
[mailto:diego.parrilla.santama...@gmail.com] Sent: 16 January 2011 22:12 To: Jay Pipes Cc: Ewan Mellor; openstack@lists.launchpad.net; John Purrier Subject: Re: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine 2011/1/14 Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.commailto:jaypi...@gmail.com 2011/1/14 Diego Parrilla

Re: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine

2011-01-17 Thread Jay Pipes
2011/1/17 Ewan Mellor ewan.mel...@eu.citrix.com: If by appliance format you mean disk image + metadata about the VM as distinguished from plain disk images, then the combination of a VMDK and a VMX could be considered to be an appliance format.  If you mean something richer (e.g. an

Re: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine

2011-01-17 Thread Jay Pipes
2011/1/17 Ewan Mellor ewan.mel...@eu.citrix.com: John Purrier sent out an RFC on Dec 30 regarding image conversion (between hypervisor formats or otherwise).  You can get that from the mailing list archive, I presume.  We’ll be discussing this lots more over the next weeks and months. Yes,

Re: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine

2011-01-17 Thread Jay Pipes
2011/1/16 Diego Parrilla Santamaría diego.parrilla.santama...@gmail.com: I think VMDK subtypes are very relevant information and has to be indicated before a deployment. Just an example: if you try to deploy a streamOptimized or even some sparse formats directly to VMware ESXi they won't work,

Re: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine

2011-01-17 Thread Ewan Mellor
are for. Ewan. -Original Message- From: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 January 2011 15:31 To: Ewan Mellor Cc: Diego Parrilla Santamaría; openstack@lists.launchpad.net; John Purrier Subject: Re: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine 2011/1/17 Ewan Mellor

Re: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine

2011-01-16 Thread Diego Parrilla Santamaría
2011/1/14 Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com 2011/1/14 Diego Parrilla Santamaría diego.parrilla.santama...@gmail.com: Well... VMX is probably too VMware oriented. My only concern about this kind of proprietary parameter file is you don't really have the chance to control its lifecycle. New

Re: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine

2011-01-14 Thread Diego Parrilla Santamaría
2011/1/13 Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com 2011/1/13 Diego Parrilla Santamaría diego.parrilla.santama...@gmail.com: An appliance is the combination of metadata describing the virtual machine plus the virtual disks. The standard format in the virtualization industry is OVF. Basically, differs

Re: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine

2011-01-13 Thread Diego Parrilla Santamaría
...@openstack.org] Sent: 10 January 2011 08:59 To: 'Jay Pipes' Cc: Ewan Mellor; openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: RE: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine Jay, this makes a lot of sense. For disk formats I would suggest: VHD, VDI, VMDK, RAW, QCOW2. For the appliance

Re: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine

2011-01-13 Thread Erik Carlin
I would just call it VMDK. That's what Vmware (http://www.vmware.com/technical-resources/interfaces/vmdk.html) and everyone else calls it, even though there may be extra files to support it. We're just naming the disk format here. We had also talked about the IMG disk format to support AMIs but

Re: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine

2011-01-13 Thread Jay Pipes
2011/1/13 Erik Carlin erik.car...@rackspace.com: I would just call it VMDK.  That's what Vmware (http://www.vmware.com/technical-resources/interfaces/vmdk.html) and everyone else calls it, even though there may be extra files to support it.  We're just naming the disk format here. So, that's

Re: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine

2011-01-10 Thread Jay Pipes
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Ewan Mellor ewan.mel...@eu.citrix.com wrote: What is the intended semantics of the Glance x-image-meta-type header values “raw” vs “machine”? When we pulled the Image model from Nova into Glance, there was a field image_type that was limited to the strings raw,

Re: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine

2011-01-10 Thread Erik Carlin
: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Ewan Mellor ewan.mel...@eu.citrix.com wrote: What is the intended semantics of the Glance x-image-meta-type header values ³raw² vs ³machine²? When we pulled the Image