Re: [Openstack] Metadata and File Injection (code summit session?)

2012-04-10 Thread Andrew Bogott
I'm reviving this ancient thread to ask: Will there be a code summit session about this? And/or are there plans to start developing a standard set of guest agents for Folsom? -Andrew On 12/15/11 2:34 AM, Jesse Andrews wrote: Great question. Right now there are 3 approaches to

Re: [Openstack] Metadata and File Injection (code summit session?)

2012-04-10 Thread Scott Moser
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012, Andrew Bogott wrote: I'm reviving this ancient thread to ask: Will there be a code summit session about this? And/or are there plans to start developing a standard set of guest agents for Folsom? http://summit.openstack.org/sessions/view/100

Re: [Openstack] Metadata and File Injection (code summit session?)

2012-04-10 Thread Eric Windisch
I maintain my stance from pre-Diablo, that the configuration drive should be exported as a virtual cdrom device with an ISO9660 filesystem. We can generate the filesystem without root access and the filesystem is well-supported. Additionally, it lacks the patent-related issues associated with

Re: [Openstack] Metadata and File Injection (code summit session?)

2012-04-10 Thread Day, Phil
: [Openstack] Metadata and File Injection (code summit session?) On Tue, 10 Apr 2012, Andrew Bogott wrote: I'm reviving this ancient thread to ask: Will there be a code summit session about this? And/or are there plans to start developing a standard set of guest agents for Folsom? http

Re: [Openstack] Metadata and File Injection (code summit session?)

2012-04-10 Thread Justin Santa Barbara
- From: openstack-bounces+philip.day=hp@lists.launchpad.net [mailto: openstack-bounces+philip.day=hp@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Scott Moser Sent: 10 April 2012 16:52 To: andrewbog...@gmail.com Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] Metadata and File Injection

Re: [Openstack] Metadata and File Injection (code summit session?)

2012-04-10 Thread Joshua Harlow
@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Scott Moser Sent: 10 April 2012 16:52 To: andrewbog...@gmail.com Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] Metadata and File Injection (code summit session?) On Tue, 10 Apr 2012, Andrew Bogott wrote: I'm reviving this ancient thread to ask

Re: [Openstack] Metadata and File Injection (code summit session?)

2012-04-10 Thread Justin Santa Barbara
Config drive can support all EC2 functionality, I believe. Images would need to be respun for OpenStack with config-drive, unless we populated the config drive in a way that worked with cloud-init. (Scott?) Personally, I'd rather our effort went into producing great images for OpenStack, than

Re: [Openstack] Metadata and File Injection (code summit session?)

2012-04-10 Thread Eric Windisch
EC2 is strategically important. I don't believe that building gold images is the right focus for OpenStack. Anyone wanting to use config-drive would need to support it in their images, that is a no-brainer. It should not be required that images launching in Nova via the EC2 API support

Re: [Openstack] Metadata and File Injection (code summit session?)

2012-04-10 Thread Andrew Bogott
What I crave is a communication channel between nova and running instances. There was discussion at some point about extending the metadata api to have this ability. Having a solid config drive standard seems like a good idea, but it won't get me run-time interaction, will it? -Andrew On

Re: [Openstack] Metadata and File Injection (code summit session?)

2012-04-10 Thread Duncan McGreggor
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Eric Windisch e...@cloudscaling.com wrote: EC2 is strategically important.  I don't believe that building gold images is the right focus for OpenStack. Indeed. Amazon drives a huge portion of the IaaS market today, and has an enormous impact on non-Amazon IaaS

Re: [Openstack] Metadata and File Injection (code summit session?)

2012-04-10 Thread Justin Santa Barbara
I presume you're looking for more than SSH offers. What are the missing features you need? On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Andrew Bogott abog...@wikimedia.orgwrote: What I crave is a communication channel between nova and running instances. There was discussion at some point about

Re: [Openstack] Metadata and File Injection (code summit session?)

2012-04-10 Thread Steven Dake
On 04/10/2012 12:36 PM, Andrew Bogott wrote: What I crave is a communication channel between nova and running instances. There was discussion at some point about extending the metadata api to have this ability. Having a solid config drive standard seems like a good idea, but it won't get

Re: [Openstack] Metadata and File Injection (code summit session?)

2012-04-10 Thread Andrew Bogott
On 4/10/12 5:04 PM, Justin Santa Barbara wrote: Can you please share that use case? I'm especially interested in finding use cases that would not better be better served by e.g. SSH or Zookeeper or Corosync.. The immediate use case I have in mind is to support this:

Re: [Openstack] Metadata and File Injection (code summit session?)

2012-04-10 Thread Justin Santa Barbara
The immediate use case I have in mind is to support this: http://wiki.openstack.org/**PackageConfigForNovahttp://wiki.openstack.org/PackageConfigForNova. That design requires periodic checkins between an instance agent and a nova driver. It certainly /could/ be implemented using ssh, but I

Re: [Openstack] Metadata and File Injection (code summit session?)

2012-04-10 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
On Apr 10, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Justin Santa Barbara wrote: Having the ability to read config data from a runtime changeable metadata server (rather then a config file on an injected disk) serves a use case I am interested in. The only problem is horizontal scalability of the metadata server

Re: [Openstack] Metadata and File Injection (code summit session?)

2012-04-10 Thread Justin Santa Barbara
One advantage of a network metadata channel is it allows for communication with cloud provider services without having to put a key into the vm. In other words, the vm can be authenticated via its ipv6 address. Did you have a use case in mind here? It seems that Keystone could use the IPV6

Re: [Openstack] Metadata and File Injection (code summit session?)

2012-04-10 Thread Steven Dake
On 04/10/2012 03:04 PM, Justin Santa Barbara wrote: Having the ability to read config data from a runtime changeable metadata server (rather then a config file on an injected disk) serves a use case I am interested in. The only problem is horizontal scalability of the metadata

Re: [Openstack] Metadata and File Injection (code summit session?)

2012-04-10 Thread Andrew Bogott
On 4/10/12 5:36 PM, Justin Santa Barbara wrote: The immediate use case I have in mind is to support this: http://wiki.openstack.org/PackageConfigForNova . That design requires periodic checkins between an instance agent and a nova driver. It certainly /could/ be implemented

Re: [Openstack] Metadata and File Injection (code summit session?)

2012-04-10 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
On Apr 10, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Justin Santa Barbara wrote: One advantage of a network metadata channel is it allows for communication with cloud provider services without having to put a key into the vm. In other words, the vm can be authenticated via its ipv6 address. Did you have a use

Re: [Openstack] Metadata and File Injection (code summit session?)

2012-04-10 Thread Angus Salkeld
On 10/04/12 15:36 -0700, Justin Santa Barbara wrote: The immediate use case I have in mind is to support this: http://wiki.openstack.org/**PackageConfigForNovahttp://wiki.openstack.org/PackageConfigForNova. That design requires periodic checkins between an instance agent and a nova driver.

Re: [Openstack] Metadata and File Injection (code summit session?)

2012-04-10 Thread Michael Basnight
On Apr 10, 2012, at 6:19 PM, Angus Salkeld wrote: On 10/04/12 15:36 -0700, Justin Santa Barbara wrote: The immediate use case I have in mind is to support this: http://wiki.openstack.org/**PackageConfigForNovahttp://wiki.openstack.org/PackageConfigForNova. That design requires periodic

Re: [Openstack] Metadata and File Injection (code summit session?)

2012-04-10 Thread Scott Moser
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012, Justin Santa Barbara wrote: Config drive can support all EC2 functionality, I believe. Images would need to be respun for OpenStack with config-drive, unless we populated the config drive in a way that worked with cloud-init. (Scott?) cloud-init supports config-drive