[Openstack] OpenStack Bexar release is out

2011-02-03 Thread Thierry Carrez
Hello everyone, It is my great pleasure to announce the direct availability of the second release of the OpenStack project, codenamed Bexar. The release consists of the following deliverables: Swift 1.2.0: https://launchpad.net/swift/1.2/1.2.0 Nova 2011.1:

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Bexar release is out, packages for SLES and openSUSE are ready

2011-02-03 Thread Stefan Seyfried
On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 10:30:17 +0100 Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Hello everyone, It is my great pleasure to announce the direct availability of the second release of the OpenStack project, codenamed Bexar. For those that want to try OpenStack on openSUSE or SLES and are a bit

Re: [Openstack] Pondering multi-tenant needs in nova.

2011-02-03 Thread Diego Parrilla Santamaría
Hi Monsyne, it's a very interesting topic and I'm curious about the reason why you are using the Flat Networking set up. From the conversations in other threads it seems the Service Providers prefer different networking approaches: VLAN oriented basically. Regards Diego - Diego Parrilla

Re: [Openstack] Pondering multi-tenant needs in nova.

2011-02-03 Thread Jay Pipes
2011/2/3 Diego Parrilla Santamaría diego.parrilla.santama...@gmail.com: it's a very interesting topic and I'm curious about the reason why you are using the Flat Networking set up. From the conversations in other threads it seems the Service Providers prefer different networking approaches:

Re: [Openstack] Pondering multi-tenant needs in nova.

2011-02-03 Thread Paul Voccio
Diego, Due to our networking topology, having a vlan per customer isn't really feasible. Most switches are limited at 4k or 8k or even 32k. With more customers than these switches can reasonably accommodate, having a single vlan per customer either limits the portability within a cloud or limits

Re: [Openstack] Network Service for L2/L3 Network Infrastructure blueprint

2011-02-03 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Ewan Mellor ewan.mel...@eu.citrix.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: 03 February 2011 13:40 To: Armando Migliaccio Cc: Ewan Mellor; Andy Smith; Rick Clark; Søren Hansen; openstack@lists.launchpad.net

Re: [Openstack] Network Service for L2/L3 Network Infrastructure blueprint

2011-02-03 Thread Ewan Mellor
-Original Message- From: openstack-bounces+ewan.mellor=citrix@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-bounces+ewan.mellor=citrix@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: 03 February 2011 14:18 To: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] Network Service

Re: [Openstack] Network Service for L2/L3 Network Infrastructure blueprint

2011-02-03 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 3, 2011, at 9:33 AM, Ewan Mellor wrote: Maybe we should normally do big-picture merges normally, but have an exception procedure for when we'd like them piecemeal. I think the main differentiator should be if the partial merge can stand on its own. IOW, with something like

Re: [Openstack] Network Service for L2/L3 Network Infrastructure blueprint

2011-02-03 Thread Jay Pipes
++ on all below points :) There are few bugs or blueprints that actually require a huge patch. Most things can be done in small chunks, making sure each chunk doesn't break tests... -jay On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Ed Leafe e...@leafe.com wrote: On Feb 3, 2011, at 9:33 AM, Ewan Mellor

Re: [Openstack] Pondering multi-tenant needs in nova.

2011-02-03 Thread Sandy Walsh
There's no good reason for Nova to have to model an organization internally; it certainly wouldn't match all the possible org structures available. +1 From: Devin Carlen devin.car...@gmail.commailto:devin.car...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 12:02:38 -0800 To: Monsyne Dragon

Re: [Openstack] Pondering multi-tenant needs in nova.

2011-02-03 Thread Brian Lamar
Would a less structured approach work to make billing/reporting more flexible for the community? I was thinking something along the lines of tags. With an arbitrary set of tags, instances could have a tag saying they belong to a certain organisation and/or an enterprise. Reports could be

Re: [Openstack] Pondering multi-tenant needs in nova.

2011-02-03 Thread Monsyne Dragon
On 2/3/11 2:02 PM, Devin Carlen wrote: We were just talking about this the other day. We definitely need some kind of further hierarchy. I think a typical kind of use case for multi-tenant could be something like: Enterprise contains Organizations Organizations contain Organizations and

Re: [Openstack] Pondering multi-tenant needs in nova.

2011-02-03 Thread John Purrier
I think Glen is on the right track here. Having the account_ID be a string with no connotation for Nova allows two benefits: 1) deployments can create the arbitrary organizational models that fit their particular DC, physical, and logical structures, and 2) the Nova code is simpler as the

Re: [Openstack] Pondering multi-tenant needs in nova.

2011-02-03 Thread Patrick Ancillotti
Aimon, You're correct of course for simply defining a customer per VLAN as realistically we wouldn't hit 16M+ customers in any regional area as it stands today ;) but there are other issues with QinQ at large scale, especially with Layer 2 domains of the size that we're envisaging in the long