Re: [Openstack] OpenStack API Versioning Conventions

2011-10-12 Thread Bryan Taylor
On 10/11/2011 09:02 PM, Mark Nottingham wrote: Linear versioning is of very limited use. If OpenStack wants to keep a clear definition of what the OpenStack CORE is, then this needs to evolve linearly (austin, bexar, cactus, diablo, essex, etc...). I think you could make an argument that this

Re: [Openstack] [OPENSTACK] Does diablo support lvm block devices instead files for VMs?

2011-10-12 Thread Adrian_F_Smith
It supports iSCSI volumes which employ the use of LVM, http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/admin/content/managing-volumes.html. The template file you reference is not the full picture. When you mount a volume a new snippet of XML is generated and passed to libvirt. The XML would

[Openstack] openstack storage comparison with extreemfs

2011-10-12 Thread Sudhakar Maiya
Hi, can anyone tell me that if we can implment openstack stroage as extreemfs. Regards Sudhakar ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack API Versioning Conventions

2011-10-12 Thread Soren Hansen
2011/10/11 George Reese george.re...@enstratus.com: It's wildly inappropriate to equate a thing with its representation. I didn't say I was right in doing so :) It's a discussion that gets philosophical rather quickly: Should we consider a URI to be a reference to a thing or a reference to a

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack API Versioning Conventions

2011-10-12 Thread Soren Hansen
2011/10/11 George Reese george.re...@enstratus.com: See EC2 for someone doing it damn well. I've never had to write new code to talk to them unless I want to take advantage of new functionality. Now I'm confused. EC2 includes the API version in the URI, but I thought you were opposed to that?

[Openstack] swift and rsync

2011-10-12 Thread Fabrice Bacchella
swift uses rsync for some synchronization tasks. But for what I can see, it mades a very raw usage of it : In db_replicator.py : def _rsync_file(self, db_file, remote_file, whole_file=True): ... popen_args = ['rsync', '--quiet', '--no-motd',

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack API Versioning Conventions

2011-10-12 Thread George Reese
On Oct 12, 2011, at 11:26 AM, Soren Hansen wrote: 2011/10/11 George Reese george.re...@enstratus.com: See EC2 for someone doing it damn well. I've never had to write new code to talk to them unless I want to take advantage of new functionality. Now I'm confused. EC2 includes the API

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack API Versioning Conventions

2011-10-12 Thread George Reese
On Oct 12, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Soren Hansen wrote: 2011/10/11 George Reese george.re...@enstratus.com: It's wildly inappropriate to equate a thing with its representation. I didn't say I was right in doing so :) It's a discussion that gets philosophical rather quickly: Should we consider

Re: [Openstack] [Nova] MySQL drivers in DB

2011-10-12 Thread Pitucha, Stanislaw Izaak
I'm not that interested in engines - this does look out of scope, since forcing something here might prevent people from running mysql cluster (ndb engine is required then). I was wondering about indexes though - I was going to submit a patch for it in the future actually. Since big,

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack API v1.0 Removal from Nova

2011-10-12 Thread Gabe Westmaas
I definitely get why developers working on the code base are in favor of this, especially for reasons 3 and 4 below. However, there are a couple of reasons that it might make sense to keep it, and I'd really like to hear from a different demographic, if at all possible. First, I'd like to hear

Re: [Openstack] glance-api errors and stop

2011-10-12 Thread mao weijie
Does anyone meet this problem? I think it is Django(python) problem. more log: 2011-10-12 06:22:01DEBUG [eventlet.wsgi.server] 10.200.200.2 - - [12/Oct/2011 06:22:01] GET /v1/images/4 HTTP/1.1 200 66241 0.109968 2011-10-12 06:22:03DEBUG [glance.api.middleware.version_negotiation]

Re: [Openstack] glance-api errors and stop

2011-10-12 Thread Jay Pipes
This may indeed be a Django-related problem... I tried investigating it a bit (known bug), but that investigation didn't get that far :( https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/862664 Please let's continue this discussion on the bug report above. Thanks! -jay 2011/10/12 mao weijie

Re: [Openstack] [Nova] MySQL drivers in DB

2011-10-12 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Gabe Westmaas gabe.westm...@rackspace.com wrote: +1 on modifying it in your environment,  this seems outside the scope of migrations, though perhaps listed as a best practice for the deployment process. +1 Similarly, I have been trying to decide what makes

[Openstack] FLOSSK in Kosovo -- OpenStack speakers wanted

2011-10-12 Thread Jay Pipes
Hey Stackers, There is a cool FLOSS conference in Kosovo coming up on November 12th -- Software Freedom Kosova 2011. If you're interested in speaking there, feel free to check out this blog post: http://www.flossk.org/en/blog/sfk11 and contact i...@flossk.org. Cheers! -jay

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack API v1.0 Removal from Nova

2011-10-12 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Gabe Westmaas gabe.westm...@rackspace.com wrote: I definitely get why developers working on the code base are in favor of this, especially for reasons 3 and 4 below.  However, there are a couple of reasons that it might make sense to keep it, and I'd really like

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack API v1.0 Removal from Nova

2011-10-12 Thread Gabe Westmaas
On 10/12/11 9:22 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Gabe Westmaas gabe.westm...@rackspace.com wrote: I definitely get why developers working on the code base are in favor of this, especially for reasons 3 and 4 below. However, there are a couple of

Re: [Openstack] swift and rsync

2011-10-12 Thread Chuck Thier
Hi Fabrice, The design of Swift has always assumed that the backend services are running on a secured, private network. If this is not going to be the case, or you would like to provide more security on that network, a lot more work needs to be done than just rsync. That said, I don't think it

Re: [Openstack] Guidelines for OpenStack APIs

2011-10-12 Thread Bryan Taylor
On 10/11/2011 09:08 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Btw, which APIs are we talking about here? Just compute and storage. Or image and identity too? I think this should be much broader and include any API contributed to the OpenStack banner, including those in the OpenStack Satellite. This email

Re: [Openstack] openstack storage comparison with extreemfs

2011-10-12 Thread Joseph Heck
Hi Sudhakar - I'm not terribly familiar with xtreemFS, but glancing at their website, it looks like it's replicated block-volume mechanism not unlink gluster or ceph. There is no plugin or back-end that takes the Nova block volume components and uses this - if it supports an iSCSI interface

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack API Versioning Conventions

2011-10-12 Thread Bryan Taylor
On 10/11/2011 10:28 AM, George Reese wrote: It's wildly inappropriate to equate a thing with its representation. Unless the thing is itself a representation, yes. A resource can be ANYTHING: a server, a database record about a server, a car, a rock, the concept of love, the act of smiling, or

[Openstack] [RFC] Stable branch

2011-10-12 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey, I've posted a proposal for how the stable branch could work here: http://wiki.openstack.org/StableBranch and a proposed diablo branch for nova: http://github.com/markmc/nova/tree/diablo The wiki page seems to be 404 for folks for some bizarre reason, but you can get to it from:

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack API Versioning Conventions

2011-10-12 Thread Caitlin Bestler
George Reese wrote: HTTP methods are well defined and the system should behave in accordance with those definitions. Otherwise, even saying the word REST is a joke. Is your point that because OpenStack APIs should be REST complaint that there would never be a V2 on a Get operation? That is,

Re: [Openstack] [RFC] Stable branch

2011-10-12 Thread James E. Blair
Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com writes: Hey, I've posted a proposal for how the stable branch could work here: http://wiki.openstack.org/StableBranch and a proposed diablo branch for nova: http://github.com/markmc/nova/tree/diablo The wiki page seems to be 404 for folks for some

Re: [Openstack] [QA] openstack-integration-tests

2011-10-12 Thread James E. Blair
Gabe Westmaas gabe.westm...@rackspace.com writes: First, there was widespread agreement that in order for an integration suite to be run in the openstack jenkins, it should be included in the community github repository. Hi, During the meeting today, folks asked about what the core group is

[Openstack] OpenStack at Ubuntu Developer Summit

2011-10-12 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Hello folks, given the strong ties between OpenStack community and Ubuntu's, I'd like to remind every OpenStack developer to go to the upcoming Ubuntu Developer Summit. Especially for the PTLs, it would be a very informative event with the Ubuntu Server track as the main attraction. The UDS is

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack API Versioning Conventions

2011-10-12 Thread George Reese
The extension has nothing to do with representation in HTTP. It's the content type (in the headers). Sent from my iPhone On Oct 12, 2011, at 17:15, Bryan Taylor btay...@rackspace.com wrote: On 10/11/2011 10:28 AM, George Reese wrote: It's wildly inappropriate to equate a thing with its

Re: [Openstack] [QA] openstack-integration-tests

2011-10-12 Thread Jay Pipes
Sorry for top posting... At a conference and typing from my phone... The openstack-qa-core group should be for core code committers to the openstack-integrated-tests project. The fixes team is the one responsible for the stable branches.. -jay On Oct 12, 2011 4:13 PM, Nati Ueno

Re: [Openstack] [QA] openstack-integration-tests

2011-10-12 Thread Nati Ueno
Jim++ #I suppose the scope of openstack-qa-core and fixes are very similar. 2011/10/12 James E. Blair cor...@inaugust.com: Gabe Westmaas gabe.westm...@rackspace.com writes: First, there was widespread agreement that in order for an integration suite to be run in the openstack jenkins, it

[Openstack] Keystone and euca-tools

2011-10-12 Thread David Kranz
Using devstack (thank you!) made it easy to see how the keystone/nova integration was supposed to work and how to use nova client to create vms, etc. In this case the old method of using nova-manage to create users and then zipping up credentials to use with euca tools is not possible. Is

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack API v1.0 Removal from Nova

2011-10-12 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
I think the arguments for removing 1.0 are sound. Lets nuke it! Vish On Oct 12, 2011, at 7:39 AM, Gabe Westmaas wrote: On 10/12/11 9:22 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Gabe Westmaas gabe.westm...@rackspace.com wrote: I definitely get why

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack API v1.0 Removal from Nova

2011-10-12 Thread Venkatesan, Ravikumar
Some of us at hp still use OS Nova Client V1.0 as nova boot command is not working with V1.1. Not sure if this issue is fixed in Diablo final. Regards, Ravi ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to :

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack API v1.0 Removal from Nova

2011-10-12 Thread Brian Waldon
Okay, looks like the consensus is to remove it. I do want to wait until the Ruby bindings are updated to use v1.1 as SmokeStack and one of our VPC jobs depend on it. Once that happens, I'll send another email to the list. Waldon On Oct 12, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: I think

[Openstack] Nova Security and Upgrades Sessions

2011-10-12 Thread Hookway, Ray
I added etherpads for the Nova Upgrades and Nova Security sessions at the Design Summit to EssexSummitEtherpadshttp://wiki.openstack.org/EssexSummitEtherpads. The etherpads are: * nova-upgradeshttp://etherpad.openstack.org/nova-upgrades and *

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Academic Alliance|Circle|Initiative #unconference

2011-10-12 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Tue, 2011-10-11 at 09:04 -0700, Stefano Maffulli wrote: a group of people interested in academia met in Boston during the unconference. I was there to take notes and facilitate this community run initiative. Here is what we agreed so far. I'm sharing it on the list to gather more ideas. I

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Academic Alliance|Circle|Initiative#unconference

2011-10-12 Thread Debo Dutta (dedutta)
Hi It’s a great idea. Will help infuse fresh ideas. I would be very interested in helping out in the co-ordination. More thoughts inline -Original Message- From: openstack-bounces+dedutta=cisco@lists.launchpad.net

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Academic Alliance|Circle|Initiative #unconference

2011-10-12 Thread Debo Dutta (dedutta)
Cool. I will put in a few IaaS/PaaS papers I read recently. Debo -Original Message- From: openstack-bounces+dedutta=cisco@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-bounces+dedutta=cisco@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Stefano Maffulli Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:07 PM To:

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack API Versioning Conventions

2011-10-12 Thread Mark Nottingham
On 13/10/2011, at 3:15 AM, Bryan Taylor wrote: On 10/11/2011 10:28 AM, George Reese wrote: It's wildly inappropriate to equate a thing with its representation. Unless the thing is itself a representation, yes. A resource can be ANYTHING: a server, a database record about a server, a car,

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack API v1.0 Removal from Nova

2011-10-12 Thread Brian Waldon
You should be able to continue to use novaclient with v1.0 in Diablo. Deploying Essex will require you to transition off of v1.0. Brian Waldon On Oct 12, 2011, at 5:10 PM, Venkatesan, Ravikumar wrote: Some of us at hp still use OS Nova Client V1.0 as nova boot command is not working with

[Openstack] Some confusedness about network between host and vm

2011-10-12 Thread DeadSun
My environment: public ip internal ip(br100) netmaskgateway controller: 10.11.3.62 10.200.200.2 255.255.255.010.11.3.1 node: 10.11.3.63 10.200.200.3 255.255.255.010.11.3.1 I used