Re: [Openstack] Vulnerability Management concerns: negativity & count

2011-11-24 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Thierry, On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 16:30 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Lloyd Dewolf wrote: > > [...] > > I do have a couple of serious concerns: > > [...] > > Every sentence in the first paragraph is dripping with negativity > > - "will not give prior notice to their employer" > > - "not about get

Re: [Openstack] openstack.org/security copyedit review -was- Re: Vulnerability Management concerns: negativity & count

2011-11-24 Thread Anne Gentle
Hi Lloyd - Doc coordinator here, glad to see you're joining in and willing to edit. For Etherpads that are written at a Design Summit there is no editorial pass. Feel free to propose moving relevant content to a better location and editing it as you do so considering audience and purpose as you go

Re: [Openstack] Vulnerability Management concerns: negativity & count

2011-11-24 Thread Soren Hansen
2011/11/24 Lloyd Dewolf : > On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Soren Hansen > wrote: > 2011/11/24 Lloyd Dewolf : >>> A. As my former boss, as of this week, Matt Mullenweg [1] would so >>> often remind us, "don't be so negative" -- he literally reminded my >>> VIP Services sub-team of that last week

Re: [Openstack] Mailing list archive delay -was- Re: Vulnerability Management concerns: negativity & count

2011-11-24 Thread Lloyd Dewolf
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > Hi Llyod, > >> Oh man mail-archive.com also has some delay, but not as bad. The >> message that I'm responding to from you, ttx, isn't there yet either, >> and I double checked that you didn't directly cc me. We can't win at > > I am wonde

Re: [Openstack] Mailing list archive delay -was- Re: Vulnerability Management concerns: negativity & count

2011-11-24 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Hi Llyod, > Oh man mail-archive.com also has some delay, but not as bad. The > message that I'm responding to from you, ttx, isn't there yet either, > and I double checked that you didn't directly cc me. We can't win at I am wondering, why do you need near instant mail archiving if they are comin

Re: [Openstack] Mailing list archive delay -was- Re: Vulnerability Management concerns: negativity & count

2011-11-24 Thread Lloyd Dewolf
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Lloyd Dewolf wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Lloyd Dewolf wrote: >>> >>> 1. I need a list archive that is up to date! >> >> Has someone submitted a bug with lists.launchpad about >> https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/ being d

Re: [Openstack] Vulnerability Management concerns: negativity & count

2011-11-24 Thread Lloyd Dewolf
Hi ttx, Very good points. The gating factor is triage, and this is what we first have to build our, OpenStack's, Vulnerability Management solution around. If the needed resources are not yet available let's fully understand that. If distros and other OpenStack builders are not able to provide d

Re: [Openstack] Mailing list archive delay -was- Re: Vulnerability Management concerns: negativity & count

2011-11-24 Thread Thierry Carrez
Lloyd Dewolf wrote: > On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Lloyd Dewolf wrote: >> >> 1. I need a list archive that is up to date! > > Has someone submitted a bug with lists.launchpad about > https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/ being delayed? This will drive > me batty before long. > [...] > Someon

Re: [Openstack] Vulnerability Management concerns: negativity & count

2011-11-24 Thread Thierry Carrez
Lloyd Dewolf wrote: > On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: >> I want to turn the question around: why do *you* want more ? > I don't think you are implying it, but just to snuff out any though. > I'm completely comfortable speaking for Piston Cloud that if by some > craziness adj

Re: [Openstack] After each meeting -was- Re: [QA] Team IRC meeting moved back one hour

2011-11-24 Thread Jay Pipes
For the record, I usually try to put together some sort of summary, as shown here: https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg05517.html Just didn't get around to it yesterday. Cheers, -jay On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Lloyd Dewolf wrote: > It would be dope if after each meeting there was a

[Openstack] openstack.org/security copyedit review -was- Re: Vulnerability Management concerns: negativity & count

2011-11-24 Thread Lloyd Dewolf
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Lloyd Dewolf wrote: >> [...] >> I do have a couple of serious concerns: >> [...] >> Every sentence in the first paragraph is dripping with negativity >> - "will not give prior notice to their employer" >> - "not about getting advance notice"

[Openstack] Mailing list archive delay -was- Re: Vulnerability Management concerns: negativity & count

2011-11-24 Thread Lloyd Dewolf
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Lloyd Dewolf wrote: > > 1. I need a list archive that is up to date! Has someone submitted a bug with lists.launchpad about https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/ being delayed? This will drive me batty before long. I haven't submitted a bug related to launchpad

Re: [Openstack] After each meeting -was- Re: [QA] Team IRC meeting moved back one hour

2011-11-24 Thread Lloyd Dewolf
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Lloyd Dewolf wrote: >> It would be dope if after each meeting there was a post to the list >> with only the highlights (bait!), and a link to the fully summary, and >> the log. > > Sounds great... Are you volunteering ? I'm ramping up my pa

Re: [Openstack] Keystone API Design Issues

2011-11-24 Thread Ziad Sawalha
Hi Paul - thank you for the good feedback. I'm going to address your points individually below, but before I want to to set some context and address some of your broader concerns. The 2.0 API for Keystone is released and multiple implementers are already working on it (in fact, we at Rackspace ha

Re: [Openstack] Vulnerability Management concerns: negativity & count

2011-11-24 Thread Lloyd Dewolf
Sorry, I don't know why Chrome Canary is losing the vertical spacing between paragraphs. He's been a bad birdy lately, seen http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=104771 ? That's my favorite bug report since https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee/issues/123 . _

Re: [Openstack] Vulnerability Management concerns: negativity & count

2011-11-24 Thread Lloyd Dewolf
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > I want to turn the question around: why do *you* want more ? I don't think you are implying it, but just to snuff out any though. I'm completely comfortable speaking for Piston Cloud that if by some craziness adjusting this policy to better

Re: [Openstack] Vulnerability Management concerns: negativity & count

2011-11-24 Thread Lloyd Dewolf
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Soren Hansen wrote:> 2011/11/24 Lloyd Dewolf :>> A. As my former boss, as of this week, Matt Mullenweg [1] would so>> often remind us, "don't be so negative" -- he literally reminded my>> VIP Services sub-team of that last week -- it's natural when you are>> deep i

Re: [Openstack] Vulnerability Management concerns: negativity & count

2011-11-24 Thread Soren Hansen
2011/11/24 Lloyd Dewolf : > A. As my former boss, as of this week, Matt Mullenweg [1] would so > often remind us, "don't be so negative" -- he literally reminded my > VIP Services sub-team of that last week -- it's natural when you are > deep in the trenches. Instead use "Words that Work". [2] Thi

[Openstack] workshop ?

2011-11-24 Thread Zeeshan Ali Shah
Hi is there any planned Workshop/Training in EU ? Zeeshan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Openstack] Vulnerability Management concerns: negativity & count

2011-11-24 Thread Soren Hansen
2011/11/24 Thierry Carrez : > This is actually linked to the next section. If you limit the numbers of > members in a vulnerability handling team, you create resentment with > those members or companies that are not part of it. The phrasing is > there to reassure non-members that there is no advant

Re: [Openstack] After each meeting -was- Re: [QA] Team IRC meeting moved back one hour

2011-11-24 Thread Thierry Carrez
Lloyd Dewolf wrote: > It would be dope if after each meeting there was a post to the list > with only the highlights (bait!), and a link to the fully summary, and > the log. Sounds great... Are you volunteering ? Kidding aside, the main reason we are not doing that is that redacting highlights ta

Re: [Openstack] Vulnerability Management concerns: negativity & count

2011-11-24 Thread Thierry Carrez
Lloyd Dewolf wrote: > [...] > I do have a couple of serious concerns: > [...] > Every sentence in the first paragraph is dripping with negativity > - "will not give prior notice to their employer" > - "not about getting advance notice" > - "reduce the disclosure of vulnerability in the early stages

[Openstack] Swift 1.4.4 released

2011-11-24 Thread John Dickinson
Happy Thanksgiving (to those in the US)! Today, I'm thankful that I can announce that swift 1.4.4 is officially released. This release has quite a few good changes in it, and, as always, this is a stable, production-ready release. You can upgrade from previous versions of swift to this version

[Openstack] After each meeting -was- Re: [QA] Team IRC meeting moved back one hour

2011-11-24 Thread Lloyd Dewolf
It would be dope if after each meeting there was a post to the list with only the highlights (bait!), and a link to the fully summary, and the log. On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: > Thank you, Thierry :) > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Thierry Carrez > wrote: >> Jay Pip

[Openstack] Vulnerability Management concerns: negativity & count

2011-11-24 Thread Lloyd Dewolf
ttx's update on the SEO, information architecture, and technical documentation issue(s) described in my email "OpenStack Security Group", 23 Nov 2011, https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg05646.html has made my day. With the holiday today in the US, and knowing that our US peers would likely ne

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Security Group

2011-11-24 Thread Thierry Carrez
Lloyd Dewolf wrote: > I'll be starting slowly with looking at documentation and the wiki. > > I always look at security first, and then try to stay away thereafter ;-) > > Problem: > > Currently a Google search for "openstack security issue" returns the > wrong page: > http://wiki.openstack.org

Re: [Openstack] Keystone + Swift integration

2011-11-24 Thread Leandro Reox
Ok, solved !!! was an issue on the Storage nodes, the path /srv/node was not found so the sda6 was returning "unmounted" ... actually weird the way that is presented to the user Regards On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Marcelo Martins wrote: > Hi Leandro, > > > If you search all swift services l

[Openstack] Fwd: Re: resize of existing VM possible?

2011-11-24 Thread Christian Berendt
Bitte Diskussion auf der Maillingliste weiterfuehren. Ich weiss spontan nicht was "openst...@b1-systems.de" ist/macht. Ist das ein alter Verteiler? Der sollte geloescht werden und in Zukunft sollten fuer OenStack Themen ausschliesslich diese Liste genutzt werden. Original Message

Re: [Openstack] [nova-testing] Efforts for Essex

2011-11-24 Thread Yuriy Taraday
Forgot to CC maillist again. Kind regards, Yuriy. On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 14:13, Yuriy Taraday wrote: > > 2011-11-24T00:12:57 I guess eventually we need to push > that to all nova..api layers > > I think, there should be some common package that should allow do this > with any joint where we

Re: [Openstack] [nova-testing] Efforts for Essex

2011-11-24 Thread Soren Hansen
2011/11/24 Sandy Walsh : > haha ... worse email thread ever. > > I'll catch you on IRC ... we've diverged too far to make sense. For anyone interested, this conversation continued on IRC yesterday. You can read it at the very end of http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-dev/%23o