Re: [Openstack] Cactus Release Preparation

2011-01-31 Thread Paul Voccio
John, I would agree with putting deployability at the top of the list. Right now, it is operational from a developers point of view. I think a true operations team would struggle supporting it at scale. A change I might suggest in priority is moving the API up in the list. While the OS API is

Re: [Openstack] Pondering multi-tenant needs in nova.

2011-02-03 Thread Paul Voccio
Diego, Due to our networking topology, having a vlan per customer isn't really feasible. Most switches are limited at 4k or 8k or even 32k. With more customers than these switches can reasonably accommodate, having a single vlan per customer either limits the portability within a cloud or limits

Re: [Openstack] xen server agent code in nova?

2011-02-11 Thread Paul Voccio
would like to continue the conversation around a metadata service and what it could look like. I think its a solution we can all benefit from. Pvo On 2/11/11 3:18 PM, Scott Moser smo...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Fri, 11 Feb 2011, Paul Voccio wrote: Below. On 2/11/11 2:30 PM, Scott Moser smo

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Compute API 1.1

2011-02-14 Thread Paul Voccio
Thoughts below: From: Justin Santa Barbara jus...@fathomdb.commailto:jus...@fathomdb.com Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:32:52 -0800 To: openstack@lists.launchpad.netmailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Compute API 1.1 Some thoughts... General: * Are we

Re: [Openstack] Queue Service

2011-02-14 Thread Paul Voccio
Eric, Just looking at the http operations. Shouldn't the calls be around the account then the queue? GET /$account_id/queue/id to list all the queues GET /$account_id/queue/id/message/id Am I off here? Thoughts? pvo On 2/14/11 5:07 PM, Eric Day e...@oddments.org wrote: I've summarized

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Compute API 1.1

2011-02-14 Thread Paul Voccio
Thoughts below From: Justin Santa Barbara jus...@fathomdb.commailto:jus...@fathomdb.com Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:40:04 -0800 To: Paul Voccio paul.voc...@rackspace.commailto:paul.voc...@rackspace.com Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.netmailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net openstack

Re: [Openstack] Queue Service

2011-02-14 Thread Paul Voccio
? On 2/14/11 6:56 PM, Eric Day e...@oddments.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 12:49:01AM +, Paul Voccio wrote: Dropping the account_id, would this also assume that there can be more than one queue per account? Yeah. Think of the queue name as an extra namespace layer much like a swift

Re: [Openstack] Review days for nova-core members

2011-02-16 Thread Paul Voccio
Not sure what the etiquette is for removing someone. Michael Gundlach is still listed but is no longer participating. pvo From: Joshua McKenty j...@piston.ccmailto:j...@piston.cc Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:51:56 -0800 To: Paul Voccio paul.voc...@rackspace.commailto:paul.voc...@rackspace.com Cc

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Compute API 1.1

2011-02-17 Thread Paul Voccio
I wanted to put out into the open where we think the evolution of the apis will go over the next few releases. This is by no means the only way to do this, but I thought it would be a start of conversation. http://wiki.openstack.org/api_transition I also wanted to clear up some confusion that

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Compute API 1.1

2011-02-18 Thread Paul Voccio
More inline. I trimmed your agrees. On 2/18/11 10:27 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: 5) Interested developers can get involved in only the services that they care about without worrying about other services. Not quite sure how this has to do with REST vs. AMQP... AMQP is simply the

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Compute API 1.1

2011-02-18 Thread Paul Voccio
09:10:19 -0800 To: Paul Voccio paul.voc...@rackspace.commailto:paul.voc...@rackspace.com Cc: Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.commailto:jaypi...@gmail.com, openstack@lists.launchpad.netmailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net openstack@lists.launchpad.netmailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re

Re: [Openstack] Should the OpenStack API re-use the EC2 credentials?

2011-02-23 Thread Paul Voccio
Justin, I think you hit upon the reason of why I think it was approved and reverted. Because it hadn't been talked about in a blueprint or a mail sent to the list (I think I'm up to date on the threads) and a patch landed means other alternatives weren't considered before pushing it through to

Re: [Openstack] Instances lost after reboot

2011-02-24 Thread Paul Voccio
George, What hypervisor are you using? I'm guessing kvm, but not totally sure. I know the behavior for XenServer is to keep the the instances available after a reboot. Can you show some examples of what you're talking about with versions? Thanks, Pvo On 2/24/11 1:49 AM, Thierry Carrez

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Compute API for Cactus (critical!)

2011-02-28 Thread Paul Voccio
Jesse, I agree that some implementations can want to have a single endpoint. I think this is doable with a simple proxy that can pass requests back to each service apis. This can also be accomplished by having configuration variables in your bindings to talk to something that looks like the

Re: [Openstack] Entities in OpenStack Auth

2011-03-01 Thread Paul Voccio
Eric, I think that¹s an interesting proposal. I think I'll try to put something together to visual this. pvo On 3/1/11 8:14 PM, Eric Day e...@oddments.org wrote: For that query you would, but not all. If you want to create a new instance for project1 you would:

Re: [Openstack] A single cross-zone database?

2011-03-16 Thread Paul Voccio
, Ed Leafe ed.le...@rackspace.com wrote: On Mar 16, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Paul Voccio wrote: Not only is this expensive, but there is no way I can see at the moment to do pagination, which is what makes this really expensive. If someone asked for an entire list of all their instances

Re: [Openstack] A single cross-zone database?

2011-03-16 Thread Paul Voccio
For Cactus, I'm with Justin and Sandy on #1 to get something working. Justin — you said earlier that you're not sure this is going to be a problem. From experience, this is a problem with trying to query all the instances across zones for Rackspace now. Sandy and others including myself have

Re: [Openstack] Instance IDs and Multiple Zones

2011-03-22 Thread Paul Voccio
I agree with the sentiment that integers aren't the way to go long term. The current spec of the api does introduce some interesting problems to this discussion. All can be solved. The spec calls for the api to return an id and a password upon instance creation. This means the api isn't

Re: [Openstack] Instance IDs and Multiple Zones

2011-03-22 Thread Paul Voccio
, and all ids have always been strings. Justin On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Paul Voccio paul.voc...@rackspace.commailto:paul.voc...@rackspace.com wrote: I agree with the sentiment that integers aren't the way to go long term. The current spec of the api does introduce some interesting problems

Re: [Openstack] (no subject)

2011-03-23 Thread Paul Voccio
Bittu, I would start by reading the docs at http://docs.openstack.org/. Then I would check out the bzr/LP tutorial that Soren put together here: http://wiki.openstack.org/LifeWithBzrAndLaunchpad. Once you've gone through those docs, it should get you moving in the right direction. If you have

Re: [Openstack] Moving code hosting to GitHub

2011-04-08 Thread Paul Voccio
Jay, I think that discussion will be one of the more popular talks at the summit. Looking forward to the discussion. I know a lot of devs will be happy to see this. pvo On 4/8/11 4:21 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: All, In an effort to speed up our code development processes, reduce

Re: [Openstack] Proposal for Justin Santa Barbara to join Nova-Core

2011-04-15 Thread Paul Voccio
Why should they be secret? From: Sebastian Stadil sebast...@scalr.commailto:sebast...@scalr.com Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 10:11:42 -0700 To: Soren Hansen so...@openstack.orgmailto:so...@openstack.org Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.netmailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net

Re: [Openstack] Proposal for Ed Leafe to join Nova-Core

2011-04-15 Thread Paul Voccio
+1 On 4/15/11 2:55 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Ed Leafe (dabo) has been one of those developers that has stepped up to the plate in code reviews and mailing list discussions. I'd like to propose he join nova-core. Cheers, jay

Re: [Openstack] Creating a forum

2011-05-03 Thread Paul Voccio
Are these really the official openstack forums? I didn't get the impression that this was settled. Didn't we bypass some processes here? On 5/3/11 2:49 PM, Jordan Rinke jor...@openstack.org wrote: Ladies and Gentlemen... welcome to the official OpenStack Forums! http://forums.openstack.org

Re: [Openstack] Problem with values in JSON responses

2011-05-03 Thread Paul Voccio
Hi Eldar, There was a good discussion at the summit in regards to how this is going to be represented. Jay Pipes and Jorge Williams were on point (I think) for pushing this topic forward. Hopefully one of them can reply here with their findings. Pvo On 5/3/11 6:29 PM, Eldar Nugaev

Re: [Openstack] [nova-core] Proposal to add Brian Waldon to nova-core

2011-05-11 Thread Paul Voccio
+1 On 5/11/11 3:01 PM, Ed Leafe ed.le...@rackspace.com wrote: On May 11, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: Subject says it all. I think Brian's demonstrated that his code reviews are thoughtful and thorough, and he knows the OpenStack API controller stuff as well as anyone else I believe.

Re: [Openstack] [nova-core] Proposal to add Mark Washenberger to nova-core

2011-05-11 Thread Paul Voccio
+1 On 5/11/11 3:02 PM, Ed Leafe e...@leafe.com wrote: On May 11, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: Mark's been a very good reviewer and an invaluable resource on the API side, particularly regarding serialization. I propose he join nova-core. +1 -- Ed Leafe

Re: [Openstack] [Nova] Unassigned essential Diablo specs

2011-05-18 Thread Paul Voccio
We'll probably have to tackle Instance migration (which is a implementation detail of host evacuation). I'll update the BP today. pvo On 5/18/11 4:59 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Hello Nova developers, In the plan that Vish came up with for Diablo[1], we have a number of

Re: [Openstack] Feedback on Portable Configuration Drive Blueprint

2011-06-19 Thread Paul Voccio
Thorsten, I'll take a run at these since I wrote the blueprint. It was initially more of a placeholder that was going to get filled out later but Vish bumped the priority before we (Ozone) was ready to move forward. I haven't talked to Chris in regards to his implementation and I haven't seen the

Re: [Openstack] libvirt vs. Xen driver handling of local storage

2011-09-02 Thread Paul Voccio
Vish, We've talked about this idea in the past and I agree this works for *nix hosts, but a base install of Windows 2k8R2 with CloudServers is 10.7GB. If we went with a 10gb base disk solution this obviously won't work. Even if we went with a 20gb partition it could become a problem as users

Re: [Openstack] libvirt vs. Xen driver handling of local storage

2011-09-02 Thread Paul Voccio
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Soren Hansen so...@linux2go.dk wrote: 2011/9/2 Paul Voccio openst...@substation9.com: Vish, We've talked about this idea in the past and I agree this works for *nix hosts, but a base install of Windows 2k8R2 with CloudServers is 10.7GB. Yikes. Tell me

Re: [Openstack] libvirt vs. Xen driver handling of local storage

2011-09-02 Thread Paul Voccio
, Chris Behrens chris.behr...@rackspace.comwrote: On Sep 2, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Paul Voccio wrote: On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Soren Hansen so...@linux2go.dk wrote: [...] The potential for filesystem bugs that could bring the host down gives me the heebie jeebies. I really, really don't

Re: [Openstack] libvirt vs. Xen driver handling of local storage

2011-09-09 Thread Paul Voccio
on C: On Sep 2, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Paul Voccio wrote: My first thought was to do a singled fixed disk and never resize that disk at all. If you need space, you have to use a volume service. Ultimately, I don't think this the right approach either, but it solves the initial use case

Re: [Openstack] Propose to make Monsyne Dragon a nova core developer

2012-02-07 Thread Paul Voccio
+1 On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Matt Dietz matt.di...@rackspace.com wrote: Hey guys, Dragon has really stepped up lately on reviewing patches into Nova, and has a ton of knowledge around Nova proper, so I propose he be added to Nova core. I think he'd be a great addition to the team.

Re: [Openstack-poc] API compatibility

2011-09-07 Thread Paul Voccio
Wouldn't this mean that versions of the API for projects would then have a version that is reflective of the release and not a spec number? Version 1.1 doesn't mean anything in Diablo if it doesn't adhere to the 1.1 guide? The api would be versioned for diablo and we would start a new version

Re: [Openstack-poc] making ppb meetings better (?)

2011-09-09 Thread Paul Voccio
John, We were just discussing this problem the other day. I'm hesitant to mute people, but the chaos is hard to follow. I often have to go back and read the logs to study what people's opinions are. I would be interested in trying some of your suggestions with the appropriate time for comments