already.
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getting all the existing
tests to use the same method of issuing API calls[1], and getting them
all to pass as well.
[1]: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bug/845993
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That link shouldn't have included the +bug bit. Copy/paste fail. :(
Sent from my phone. Pardon my brevity.
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doesn't do, there's no
way it's going to be in a state ready for release before release date.
I've lost track, though, of where this API doc lives now and who
owns it. Can we rip stuff out of it that doesn't match reality?
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2011/9/7 Bryan Taylor btay...@rackspace.com:
I'm working on an incident system that my company, as an OpenStack operator,
will use to support our deployment of OpenStack.
Can you explain what you mean by incidents?
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of it, without causing
it to get merged. We also want to be able to review features and vote
on them even during freeze times without causing them to get merged.
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.
The potential for filesystem bugs that could bring the host down gives
me the heebie jeebies. I really, really don't want to mount people's
filesystems.
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format. We can't always guarantee
that we can resize the image properly.
Can you elaborate on this? Both methods resize the disk, how does the
second method impose more limitations than the first?
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, so you can get by just fine with the
secondary attached disk if the resize does nothing. So to me that is a lot
more flexible.
Ah, gotcha. Makes sense.
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2011/8/25 Jorge Williams jorge.willi...@rackspace.com:
On Aug 24, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Soren Hansen wrote:
2011/8/24 Jorge Williams jorge.willi...@rackspace.com:
Okay, I do remember these, but the talks focus on documenting what the
implementation does. I'm all for it, docstrings are good
the OpenStack API v1.1. Why is fixing this so controversial?
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uploading to an older version of Ubuntu (in the PPA).
These are packages that I have no intention of ever touching again. At
least not until the next time we need a newer version, at which point
I'll start over.
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2011/8/25 Thomas Goirand tho...@goirand.fr:
On 08/25/2011 04:11 AM, Soren Hansen wrote:
This is false. The packages are perfectly capable of building and
running on Debian (barring currently unknown bugs).
No. After Cactus was released, it didn't build because of issues in
python-eventlet
sure there is no difference. Like, say, having the
spec be generated from docstrings in the code and at the same time run
tests based on the contents of the docstrings to ensure that what the
docstrings says the API will accept and return is also what it actually
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, so I'd
like to just see how much we can achieve before the Diablo release.
I'll try to extract some useful numbers every week to see how we're
doing.
Who's with me?
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don't *need* to run 64-bit Linux on the host, but if you're
running a 32-bit Linux kernel on the host, you'll be limited to 32-bit
guests as well (at least with KVM (for now), not sure about the
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) or an Intel processor with VT (virtualization
technology) extensions.
Yeah, that's a documentation bug.
With LXC support, we're not even limited to the x86 platform, so this
is rather out of date.
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2011/7/12 Zeeshan Ali Shah zas...@pdc.kth.se:
Hi,
From requirements of nova-compute it seems that it cannot be run on non-VT
based processors.
Where are you seeing this?
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2011/7/11 Todd Deshane todd.desh...@xen.org:
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Soren Hansen so...@linux2go.dk wrote:
2011/7/7 Todd Deshane todd.desh...@xen.org:
The Kronos audience will not use this RPM, but instead will want
Debian packages. So at that point, we could either extend the Makefile
2011/7/11 Eric Day e...@oddments.org:
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:27:16PM +0200, Soren Hansen wrote:
2011/7/11 Ewan Mellor ewan.mel...@eu.citrix.com:
No, not string vs guid. Current AWS IDs are 32 bits. Being a small key
space, this means that you either need to allocate them incrementally
addresses slowly depleting (even though their
corresponding instances have been deleted) or recycle the instance
ID's (and hence IP's). Neither of those options seem very cool.
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calls. I think it's a reasonably
fair assumption that you'll be querying/performing actions on existing
objects much more often than you'll create new ones, so that's much,
much worse than just doing it at create time.
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. If you want to perform
the collision check even for intances created through the OpenStack
API, then the reasons for choosing UUID's to begin with are moot.
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is to support people's
existing tools and whatnot. If we follow the spec, but the clients
don't work, we're doing it wrong.
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2011/7/7 Vishvananda Ishaya vishvana...@gmail.com:
On Jul 7, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Soren Hansen wrote:
2011/7/7 Trey Morris trey.mor...@rackspace.com:
The goal isn't for ec2 api to be a second class citizen, but to keep it
from being a limiting factor since we don't have control over it. How does
and,
even worse, we're not being smart enough about it to actually do
without the extra DB roundtrip to check for collisions.
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2011/7/8 Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com:
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Soren Hansen so...@linux2go.dk wrote:
2011/7/8 Ed Leafe ed.le...@rackspace.com:
No, it would work more like: a new instance is requested, and the host
selected. A candidate UUID would be generated and checked for first 8
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what the clients do.
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2011/7/8 Ewan Mellor ewan.mel...@eu.citrix.com:
If you believe that that's true, then we should get Amazon to redefine the
EC2 spec to match the reality of what's in the field.
What would their motivation be?
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, and
be very liberal in what you accept. Otherwise, people. will. use.
something. else. period.
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the build script in the nova tree?
Answered above :)
3) Does the overall distinction between Citrix XenServer, XCP, and
project Kronos make sense?
I think so.
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for OpenStack's sake,
not random users who are being given access to an OpenStack
deployment and being told talk to this like you would talk to EC2.
It'll work fine. Different expectations.
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with. The tricky part is figuring out how to
handle the collisions when they actually arise.
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From an adoption perspective, like it or not, EC2 is popular. Lots of
people use it and are comfortable and familiar with its API. I don't
see what we'll win by so thoroughly reducing the EC2 API to a second
class citizen in Nova.
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OpenStack API is capable of doing and/or expressing.
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or is planning to? I want
to make sure that we are represented at this event. Thanks,
I should be presenting something at this online event, though I'm not
sure yet what exactly :)
Me too. :)
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port).
Say we had come up with our own basic, generic protocol, on top of
which we'd built the Glance API, Nova API, Swift API, etc... Would you
want them to have assigned a single port as well, just because their
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Perhaps you missed it, but there was a thread on this list earlier a
couple of days ago about setting up an
openstack-packag...@lists.ubuntu.com that would allow non-subscribers
to post there. How does that sound?
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is functional and I think we'd like to use
chef or puppet for baremetal deployments as well.
TL;DR: Can we focus on the chef recipes instead of on .debs?
I must have missed a memo at some point. Really.
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2011/6/6 Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org:
Soren Hansen wrote:
2011/6/2 Thomas Goirand tho...@goirand.fr:
So all we need to make this happen is setting up an open-post (and
therefore non-Launchpad) ML for the debian/ubuntu packagers group ? I'm
pretty sure we can get something setup
for this. :(
Thanks to Rohit Karajgi and Lorin Hochstein for putting me on to this.
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the means to do live
rebalancing, but I don't believe an API to specify I'd like for this
particular file to reside on this particular brick. Please make it
so. That would *rock*.
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I'm proposing that he is added as a nova-core member.
Definitely +1
If he gets the necessary +5 and noone objects by Monday morning, I'll
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2011/5/26 Thomas Goirand tho...@goirand.fr:
On 05/20/2011 06:15 AM, Soren Hansen wrote:
Since SID is using python2.7, there's loads of errors, and building Nova
simply doesn't work.
Can you be more specific? Ubuntu has been on Python 2.7 since Natty,
so it most definitely should work.
Below
Your nova-manage command does not know the network subcommand. It
only know the 6 it lists.
This means you have a *very* old installation of Nova. You should
upgrade to a more recent version.
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?
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are not enumerable, it gets even
less fun. So, adding these capabilities would get in the way of
implementing something like the above. I guess it could be a
configuration option, i.e. if you choose the rich scheduling option
set, you don't get to use the cool scheduler.
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to be scheduled individually (partial
failures and being scattered across multiple availability zones being
the major problems).
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that.
Anyone interested ?
I'll grab this one.
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Welcome to the team, Brian!
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API.
However, we need client tools to exercise new features exposed in the
API, so I'm not sure we can reasonably live without a set of tools
that we maintain ourselves to expose all the new functionality.
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always get the freshest python-novaclient from the
nova-core/trunk ppa. Enjoy.
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couple of minutes ago.
Welcome to the team, Dan!
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Great stuff. I've pulled these changes into trunk.
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Sounds good to me.
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Best regards, Soren.
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2011/5/6 Thomas Goirand tho...@goirand.fr:
On 05/06/2011 04:56 PM, Soren Hansen wrote:
2011/5/5 Thomas Goirand tho...@goirand.fr:
I tried to upgrade one Ubuntu computer, and the
fastest speed I could get was 5KB/s, even trying
many mirrors in China!
Just FYI, the mirrors are completely
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2011/5/6 Vishvananda Ishaya vishvana...@gmail.com:
Hey Soren,
I have a couple fixes here as well:
https://code.launchpad.net/~vishvananda/nova/fix-packages
The dd one is kind of important because it stops volumes from deleting
properly.
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The version of python migrate you're using is much too old. I believe
0.6 is what we require.
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Yes, as I said, you need to uninstall the old version. How to do that
depends on how you installed it.
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There's a couple of old PPA's that people still stumble upon. They
filled with ancient versions of OpenStack, so they're completely
useless.
https://launchpad.net/~nova-core/+archive/ppa
https://launchpad.net/~openstack/+archive/openstack-ppa
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..once I'm done fiddling with it, that is :)
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2011/5/4 Rick Clark r...@openstack.org:
On 05/04/2011 06:58 AM, Soren Hansen wrote:
2011/5/3 Stephen Spectorstephen.spec...@openstack.org:
Finally, Hawaii sounds great until you see the cost of a Diet Coke in a
hotel – it is just too expensive.
Heh.. Have you even been to Europe
2011/5/3 Ron Pedde ron.pe...@rackspace.com:
On 5/2/11 6:10 PM, Soren Hansen so...@linux2go.dk wrote:
I just know from
experience that try as I might, I'm not likely to maintain any sort of
motivation to participate in forums for any useful amount of time.
And I think that would be the objective
a StackExchange.com site. This
gives you at least these two features, but I'm not sure we're yet at a
size that warrants such a site, but it's something to keep in mind for
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2011/5/3 Todd Willey t...@ansolabs.com:
In a heavily load-balanced environment you'll probably want to terminate SSL
before it gets
proxied to the actual api servers,
Why is that? It seems like a win to distribute as much processing as
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2011/4/26 Thomas Goirand tho...@goirand.fr:
On 04/27/2011 12:42 PM, Soren Hansen wrote:
The nova.conf we ship in the Debian packages already sets lock_path to
/var/lock/nova.
Is that new? I didn't see it, and it wasn't set in my test server.
Depends on your definition of new, I suppose
2011/4/26 Thomas Goirand tho...@goirand.fr:
On 04/27/2011 02:24 AM, Soren Hansen wrote:
2011/4/26 Thomas Goirand tho...@goirand.fr:
On 04/26/2011 10:35 PM, Soren Hansen wrote:
I don't recall seeing anything that makes that a useful nor accurate
summary. Opinions have been voiced, that's all
2011/4/27 Thomas Goirand tho...@goirand.fr:
On 04/27/2011 11:26 PM, Soren Hansen wrote:
To get working, yes. To be an expert, no.
bzr lp-login
(bzr init-repo)
bzr branch
(bzr add)
bzr commit
bzr push
..are sufficient to just get started.
No, I don't agree, it's not enough. See below
2011/4/26 FUJITA Tomonori fujita.tomon...@lab.ntt.co.jp:
Soren Hansen so...@linux2go.dk wrote:
2011/4/22 FUJITA Tomonori fujita.tomon...@lab.ntt.co.jp:
Fair enough. That doesn't change that my name is still on the commit,
and there might be a bunch of Acked-By's or Tested-By's
2011/4/26 Thomas Goirand tho...@goirand.fr:
On 04/26/2011 10:35 PM, Soren Hansen wrote:
I don't recall seeing anything that makes that a useful nor accurate
summary. Opinions have been voiced, that's all.
Re-read then. What you believe are opinions might well be seen by their
authors
. This is convenient during development, but dreadful for
deployment. Patches that fix this would be happily accepted. I'd be
thrilled we didn't have to have a nova.conf by default.
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2011/4/22 Thomas Goirand tho...@goirand.fr:
On 04/22/2011 05:41 AM, Soren Hansen wrote:
2011/4/21 Thomas Goirand tho...@goirand.fr:
On 04/19/2011 05:55 AM, Soren Hansen wrote:
2011/4/18 Thomas Goirand tho...@goirand.fr:
Can't you just pull each individual patches that you feel ok
2011/4/18 Thomas Goirand tho...@goirand.fr:
On 04/18/2011 05:44 AM, Soren Hansen wrote:
2011/4/17 Thomas Goirand tho...@goirand.fr:
In my Debian packaging, I've written few man pages, because it's
forbidden in Debian to package things in /usr/bin or /usr/sbin without
them.
I think forbidden
generate man pages for us (automatically, so they'll be guaranteed to
be up-to-date), but there's some plumbing missing.
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2011/4/15 Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com:
Hi all,
Ed Leafe (dabo) has been one of those developers that has stepped up
to the plate in code reviews and mailing list discussions. I'd like to
propose he join nova-core.
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well.
Guys.. Take those 20 seconds to write a description. I think it's rude
to just throw patches at people and expect them to review them without
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+1 from me, too.
As per the process, if no-one objects within 5 business (my
interpretation) days, i.e. before Thursday, I'll get Justin added to
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and massively scalable./
s/produces/produce/, otherwise fine.
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2011/4/4 Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org:
I'm Cc:-ing the list (and changed this silly subject that I used), if
you don't mind.
Sure. We usually do this through merge proposals, though, but whatever
works.
On 04/04/2011 08:42 PM, Soren Hansen wrote:
* You refer to a cloud controller. There's
2011/4/1 FUJITA Tomonori fujita.tomon...@lab.ntt.co.jp:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:02:34 +0200
Soren Hansen so...@openstack.org wrote:
2011/3/31 FUJITA Tomonori fujita.tomon...@lab.ntt.co.jp:
Sounds like the importance of blueprints is overrated. If you look at
Linux kernel development (more
understand why it would be much better for
tracking blueprints or whatever you'd call them in that context?
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that was proposed in time for branch merge proposal
freeze. I sure hope so, but honestly haven't checked.
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in October over Austin in July. :)
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for others
(not sure how, but it could happen), we need to be very open to their
needs and potentially revisit this decision.
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should be leading by example.
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There's prior art to OAuth from the cmdline. Anything that interacts with
Launchpad's API does it. See e.g. bzr lp-propose-merge.
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2011/3/24 Trey Morris trey.mor...@rackspace.com:
All, consider me as a nova core dev. Seems we could use a few more and I
need an excuse to spend more time reviewing code :)
+1 from me, too.
If noone has objected by Thursday, I'll do the Launchpad magic.
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