Re: [Openstack] Future of Launchpad OpenStack mailing list (this list)

2012-08-28 Thread Andrew Clay Shafer
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Francis J. Lacoste francis.laco...@canonical.com wrote: On 12-08-27 08:32 PM, Andrew Clay Shafer wrote: For exporting from Launchpad, surely someone at Canonical would be able and willing to get that list of emails. We can provide the mailing list

Re: [Openstack] Future of Launchpad OpenStack mailing list (this list)

2012-08-28 Thread Andrew Clay Shafer
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Brian Schott brian.sch...@nimbisservices.com wrote: At the risk of getting bad e-karma for cross posting to openstack-operators, that might be the place to post that question. I for one disagree that we should merge the openstack general list into

Re: [Openstack] Future of Launchpad OpenStack mailing list (this list)

2012-08-27 Thread Andrew Clay Shafer
There are at least end users, operators and developers in the OpenStack technical ecosystem. There are also 'OpenStack' related discussions that aren't technical in nature. It doesn't seem right to make the operators list a catchall. For exporting from Launchpad, surely someone at Canonical

Re: [Openstack] Gold Member Election Update

2012-08-16 Thread Andrew Clay Shafer
Cisco - Lew Tucker Cloudscaling - Randy Bias Dell - John Igoe Dreamhost - Simon Anderson ITRI/CCAT - Dr. Tzi-cker Chiueh Mirantis - Boris Renski Piston - Joshua McKenty Yahoo! - Sean Roberts Congratulations to the newly elected board members. Do we have an oath of office?

Re: [Openstack] Setting Expectations

2012-08-14 Thread Andrew Clay Shafer
These are important and difficult questions. As you say, OpenStack is many different things to different people. So far we survived while avoiding to answer clearly, mostly because we had no good way of coming up with answers. That ultimately creates tension between participants in our

Re: [Openstack] RedHAt * OPenSTack

2012-08-14 Thread Andrew Clay Shafer
First you fill out that form, then you have to have a Redhat login, so either make one or login, then you have to fill out another form, then you get on a wait list, then you get an email that the subscription is active. I received that email. You can't do anything unless you have running Redhat

Re: [Openstack] [swift] Operational knowledge sharing

2012-08-10 Thread Andrew Clay Shafer
Thanks for sharing. On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 12:31 PM, John Dickinson m...@not.mn wrote: In a standard swift deployment, the proxy server is running behind a load balancer and/or an SSL terminator. At SwiftStack, we discovered an issue that may arise from some config parameters in this

[Openstack] Setting Expectations

2012-08-10 Thread Andrew Clay Shafer
What is OpenStack? Clearly, OpenStack is many things to many people and organizations. What does it mean to contribute to OpenStack? What does it mean to deploy OpenStack? What does it mean to operate OpenStack? What do we mean when we say compatible? interoperable? community? branded? Is

Re: [Openstack] Making the RPC backend a required configuration parameter

2012-08-08 Thread Andrew Clay Shafer
Is there a good reason NOT to do this? On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Eric Windisch e...@cloudscaling.com wrote: I believe that the RPC backend should no longer have any default. Historically, it seems that the Kombu driver is default only because it existed before all others and before

Re: [Openstack] [nova] [cinder] Nova-volume vs. Cinder in Folsom

2012-07-14 Thread Andrew Clay Shafer
I disagree with your last point, it is true if we look only into this particular problem, but if you look into the whole ecosystem you'll realize that the code removal of nova-volumes is not the only change from essex to folsom.. if we had deprecated all other changes, this particular one would

Re: [Openstack] [nova] [cinder] Nova-volume vs. Cinder in Folsom

2012-07-13 Thread Andrew Clay Shafer
in this thread should not be dismissed. Doing that is to put the potential of OpenStack in peril. Regards, Andrew Clay Shafer ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https

Re: [Openstack] [nova] [cinder] Nova-volume vs. Cinder in Folsom

2012-07-11 Thread Andrew Clay Shafer
One vote for option 1. Remove Volumes ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Openstack] [Metering] how should it be done ? ( Was: schema and counter definitions)

2012-05-02 Thread Andrew Clay Shafer
It would be better if all OpenStack core components agreed on unified interfaces / messages for metering that would be easy to harvest without installing agents on nodes. This is also true for many services outside of the OpenStack eco-system. However, much in the same way munin and nagios

Re: [Openstack] [Metering] schema and counter definitions

2012-05-01 Thread Andrew Clay Shafer
I'm glad to see people championing the effort to implement metering. Is there someway to refocus the enthusiasm for solving the metering problem into engineering a general solution in OpenStack? I'm just going to apologize in advance, but I don't think this project is headed in the right

Re: [Openstack] [nova-compute] Startup error

2012-04-27 Thread Andrew Clay Shafer
In nova.conf, what is instances_path being set to? It's blowing up trying to find the path '/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/instances', which is getting set as the value of FLAGS.instances_path. On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Leander Bessa leande...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm

Re: [Openstack] How does everyone build OpenStack disk images?

2012-04-25 Thread Andrew Clay Shafer
Justin, I'm a fan of veewee. https://github.com/jedi4ever/veewee Probably some work to support Xen, but should work for building KVM images. These docs should give a bit better idea. https://github.com/jedi4ever/veewee/blob/master/doc/definition.md

Re: [Openstack] Swift nee st code weirdness

2012-04-05 Thread Andrew Clay Shafer
Pete, There is clearly something interesting going on with scope. 'options', which appears to really be 'parser' get passed in as a variable, but are then gets over written before being used by the call using the global 'parser'. (options, args) = parse_args(parser, args) The history of the

Re: [Openstack] [Ops] OpenStack and Operations: Input from the Wild

2012-04-05 Thread Andrew Clay Shafer
Interested in devops. Off the top of my head. live upgrades api queryable indications of cluster health api queryable cluster version and configuration info enabling monitoring as a first class concern in OpenStack (either as a cross cutting concern, or as it's own project) a framework for

Re: [Openstack] Swift: NAS or DAS?

2012-03-16 Thread Andrew Clay Shafer
*This link shows the integration of NexentaStor (a NAS/SAN integrated storage solution) with Openstack Nova: http://mirantis.blogspot.com/2011/11/converging-openstack-with-nexenta.html * That's Nova, not Swift.. In case of Nova, a NAS or SAN approach makes very much sense. Running

Re: [Openstack] [CHEF] How to structure upstream OpenStack cookbooks?

2012-03-10 Thread Andrew Clay Shafer
some response inline followed by general comments on the topic On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 9:30 AM, andi abes andi.a...@gmail.com wrote: I like where this discussion is going. So I'd like to throw a couple more sticks into the fire, around test/SAIO vs production deployments.. I think there are

Re: [Openstack] [CHEF] How to structure upstream OpenStack cookbooks?

2012-03-10 Thread Andrew Clay Shafer
If your SAIO/test diverge from production deployments, what are you really testing? there's a big difference, imho, between testing code integration and production deployments. e.g. if you're trying to write a functional test for swift, that requires the proxy server to connect to

Re: [Openstack] Nova RC-1 Bugs

2012-03-07 Thread Andrew Clay Shafer
+1 On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Alexey Eromenko al4...@gmail.com wrote: There are several blocker bugs in manuals. (they prevent new users from installing or configuring OpenStack) But I doubt they are marked as such. What to do ? Can I up priority for docs on L-pad, if a broken docs

Re: [Openstack] how to run selected tests

2012-02-29 Thread Andrew Clay Shafer
The way run_tests.sh works right now, you can run all tests, all tests in a file, a module or an individual test depending on what args you run with. The default with no args will run all the tests. You can run one file passing in the name of the file minus .py (if it is a sub-directory, replace

Re: [Openstack] Keystone: Redux (Dubstep Remix)

2012-02-15 Thread Andrew Clay Shafer
+1 Don't deprecate, until the bass drops... lesson learned. On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Soren Hansen so...@linux2go.dk wrote: 2012/2/14 Jesse Andrews anotherje...@gmail.com: The major lessons of keystone: Now that we're verbalising lessons learnt from Keystone, I'd like to add

Re: [Openstack] nova/puppet blueprint, and some questions

2012-01-27 Thread Andrew Clay Shafer
? Is that sync with what is on the puppet master somehow or you are going to do data entry and it's all string matching? On 1/26/12 5:03 PM, Andrew Clay Shafer wrote: I'd also like to see more of a service oriented approach and avoid adding tables to nova if possible. I'm not sure the best solution

Re: [Openstack] nova/puppet blueprint, and some questions

2012-01-26 Thread Andrew Clay Shafer
I would love to see a first class puppet integration with nova instances. I'd also like to see more of a service oriented approach and avoid adding tables to nova if possible. I'm not sure the best solution is to come up with a generic service for $configuration_manager for nova core. I'd rather

Re: [Openstack] [OpenStack Foundation] OpenStack Mission Goals

2012-01-05 Thread Andrew Clay Shafer
+1 On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Lloyd Dewolf lloydost...@gmail.com wrote: Having played a very minor role in this process for WordPress, and been an onlooking numerous times, it is always a long and involved process. Ever try telling the IRS that you don't want to pay taxes? I

Re: [Openstack] swift enforcing ssl?

2011-12-28 Thread Andrew Clay Shafer
Do not use the ssl in the python for anything beyond noodling on a proof of concept. Between the python ssl and eventlet, ssl is unusably broken. This should probably be in red in the documentation. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack