Re: [Openstack] Keystone: 'PKI Signed Tokens' lack support for revocation

2012-08-09 Thread Maru Newby
Hi Adam, The blueprint as revised to address Joe's comments looks good to me - nice work. I especially like how the middleware is intended to cache the revocation list for a configurable amount of time - it mirrors how token caching already works. Cheers, Maru On 2012-08-07, at 10:09 AM,

Re: [Openstack] Keystone: 'PKI Signed Tokens' lack support for revocation

2012-08-07 Thread Adam Young
On 08/01/2012 09:19 PM, Maru Newby wrote: I see that support for PKI Signed Tokens has been added to Keystone without support for token revocation. I tried to raise this issue on the bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1003962/comments/4 And the review:

Re: [Openstack] Keystone: 'PKI Signed Tokens' lack support for revocation

2012-08-03 Thread Adam Young
On 08/02/2012 10:54 PM, Nathanael Burton wrote: Adam, I haven't yet had a chance to review how the new PKI signed tokens is implemented, but what you're describing sounds quite similar to online certificate status protocol (OCSP) but for tokens. Yes, I don't really have new idea here,

Re: [Openstack] Keystone: 'PKI Signed Tokens' lack support for revocation

2012-08-02 Thread Joseph Heck
Hey Maru, I think you're putting too many words in Adam's mouth here. First, Adam didnt assert is wasnt valuable, useful, or nessecary - simply that it wasnt in the first cut and not in the list that we agreed was critically essential to an initial implementation. As you noted, its a complex

Re: [Openstack] Keystone: 'PKI Signed Tokens' lack support for revocation

2012-08-02 Thread Adam Young
On 08/02/2012 01:56 AM, Joseph Heck wrote: Hey Maru, I think you're putting too many words in Adam's mouth here. First, Adam didnt assert is wasnt valuable, useful, or nessecary - simply that it wasnt in the first cut and not in the list that we agreed was critically essential to an initial

Re: [Openstack] Keystone: 'PKI Signed Tokens' lack support for revocation

2012-08-02 Thread Rouault, Jason (Cloud Services)
: openstack-bounces+jason.rouault=hp@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-bounces+jason.rouault=hp@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Maru Newby Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 7:20 PM To: openstack@lists.launchpad.net (openstack@lists.launchpad.net) Subject: [Openstack] Keystone: 'PKI Signed Tokens

Re: [Openstack] Keystone: 'PKI Signed Tokens' lack support for revocation

2012-08-02 Thread Adam Young
On 08/01/2012 11:05 PM, Maru Newby wrote: Hi Adam, I apologize if my questions were answered before. I wasn't aware that what I perceive as a very serious security concern was openly discussed. The arguments against revocation support, as you've described them, seem to be: - it's

Re: [Openstack] Keystone: 'PKI Signed Tokens' lack support for revocation

2012-08-02 Thread Maru Newby
Hi Adam, I was thinking along the same lines - the revocation list could be accessed via a simple url. It wouldn't even have to be hosted by Keystone, necessarily. For larger clusters where performance might become an issue, what about generating to a static file as needed that is made

Re: [Openstack] Keystone: 'PKI Signed Tokens' lack support for revocation

2012-08-02 Thread Maru Newby
Hi Adam, I apologize if I came across as disrespectful. I was becoming frustrated that what I perceived as a valid concern was seemingly being ignored, but I recognize that there is no excuse for addressing you in a manner that I would not myself wish to be treated. I will do better going

Re: [Openstack] Keystone: 'PKI Signed Tokens' lack support for revocation

2012-08-02 Thread Nathanael Burton
Adam, I haven't yet had a chance to review how the new PKI signed tokens is implemented, but what you're describing sounds quite similar to online certificate status protocol (OCSP) but for tokens. Nate On Aug 2, 2012 10:24 PM, Adam Young ayo...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/01/2012 11:05 PM, Maru

[Openstack] Keystone: 'PKI Signed Tokens' lack support for revocation

2012-08-01 Thread Maru Newby
I see that support for PKI Signed Tokens has been added to Keystone without support for token revocation. I tried to raise this issue on the bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1003962/comments/4 And the review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7754/ I'm curious as to

Re: [Openstack] Keystone: 'PKI Signed Tokens' lack support for revocation

2012-08-01 Thread Adam Young
On 08/01/2012 09:19 PM, Maru Newby wrote: I see that support for PKI Signed Tokens has been added to Keystone without support for token revocation. I tried to raise this issue on the bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1003962/comments/4 And the review:

Re: [Openstack] Keystone: 'PKI Signed Tokens' lack support for revocation

2012-08-01 Thread Maru Newby
Hi Adam, I apologize if my questions were answered before. I wasn't aware that what I perceive as a very serious security concern was openly discussed. The arguments against revocation support, as you've described them, seem to be: - it's complicated/messy/expensive to implement and/or