Re: [Openstack] [Ceilometer][Healthnmon] Dealing with Performance/Monitoring Metrics
Thank you Bruno! Cheers Cláudio Marques -claudio@onesource.pthttp://www.onesource.pt/ > From: brunnop.olive...@gmail.com > Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:56:08 -0300 > To: clau...@onesource.pt > CC: openstack@lists.launchpad.net > Subject: Re: [Openstack] [Ceilometer][Healthnmon] Dealing with > Performance/Monitoring Metrics > > @Julien > > Right. Working on it, Julien. I'll let you guys know if I manage to > get any significant progress. > Thank you. > > > @Claudio > > > Do we need to install Healthnmon in order to get them? (because ceilometer > > Yeah. Until we manage to find a way to retrieve'em with Ceilometer or > until the two projects merge; > > -- > > Bruno Oliveira > Developer, Software Engineer > irc: lychinus | skype: brunnop.oliveira > brunnop.olive...@gmail.com > -- > > Bruno Oliveira > Developer, Software Engineer > irc: lychinus | skype: brunnop.oliveira > brunnop.olive...@gmail.com > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 7:08 AM, claudio marques wrote: > > Hi all > > > > I think that we are all (people working with ceilometer), trying to figure > > out how to get the system actual data metrics from VMs. > > Do we need to install Healthnmon in order to get them? (because ceilometer > > as Julien already said, can't do it yet) > > > > Cheers > > > > Cláudio Marques > > > > - > > clau...@onesource.pt > > http://www.onesource.pt/ > > > > > > From: jul...@danjou.info > > To: brunnop.olive...@gmail.com > > Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:41:13 +0200 > > CC: openstack@lists.launchpad.net > > Subject: Re: [Openstack] [Ceilometer][Healthnmon] Dealing with > > Performance/Monitoring Metrics > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 22 2013, Bruno Oliveira ~lychinus wrote: > > > >> So, long story short, is technically possible for me to create metrics > >> to make the API show up system_usage_metrics instead of simply > >> system_allocated_metrics ? (I guess I misunderstood, right?) > >> > >> Could you please enlight the path for me ? > > > > If you know how to retrieve the actual memory or disk used (rather than > > allocated) by a VM by measuring from outside the VM, please enlighten > > us. We (Ceilometer) don't know how to do that, that's why we don't do > > it actually. > > > > -- > > Julien Danjou > > ;; Free Software hacker ; freelance consultant > > ;; http://julien.danjou.info > > > > > > ___ Mailing list: > > https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : > > https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > ___ > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack > > Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack > Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] [Ceilometer][Healthnmon] Dealing with Performance/Monitoring Metrics
@Julien Right. Working on it, Julien. I'll let you guys know if I manage to get any significant progress. Thank you. @Claudio > Do we need to install Healthnmon in order to get them? (because ceilometer Yeah. Until we manage to find a way to retrieve'em with Ceilometer or until the two projects merge; -- Bruno Oliveira Developer, Software Engineer irc: lychinus | skype: brunnop.oliveira brunnop.olive...@gmail.com -- Bruno Oliveira Developer, Software Engineer irc: lychinus | skype: brunnop.oliveira brunnop.olive...@gmail.com On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 7:08 AM, claudio marques wrote: > Hi all > > I think that we are all (people working with ceilometer), trying to figure > out how to get the system actual data metrics from VMs. > Do we need to install Healthnmon in order to get them? (because ceilometer > as Julien already said, can't do it yet) > > Cheers > > Cláudio Marques > > - > clau...@onesource.pt > http://www.onesource.pt/ > > > From: jul...@danjou.info > To: brunnop.olive...@gmail.com > Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:41:13 +0200 > CC: openstack@lists.launchpad.net > Subject: Re: [Openstack] [Ceilometer][Healthnmon] Dealing with > Performance/Monitoring Metrics > > > On Sat, Jun 22 2013, Bruno Oliveira ~lychinus wrote: > >> So, long story short, is technically possible for me to create metrics >> to make the API show up system_usage_metrics instead of simply >> system_allocated_metrics ? (I guess I misunderstood, right?) >> >> Could you please enlight the path for me ? > > If you know how to retrieve the actual memory or disk used (rather than > allocated) by a VM by measuring from outside the VM, please enlighten > us. We (Ceilometer) don't know how to do that, that's why we don't do > it actually. > > -- > Julien Danjou > ;; Free Software hacker ; freelance consultant > ;; http://julien.danjou.info > > > ___ Mailing list: > https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : > https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack > Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] [Ceilometer][Healthnmon] Dealing with Performance/Monitoring Metrics
Hi all I think that we are all (people working with ceilometer), trying to figure out how to get the system actual data metrics from VMs.Do we need to install Healthnmon in order to get them? (because ceilometer as Julien already said, can't do it yet) Cheers Cláudio Marques -claudio@onesource.pthttp://www.onesource.pt/ From: jul...@danjou.info To: brunnop.olive...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:41:13 +0200 CC: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] [Ceilometer][Healthnmon] Dealing with Performance/Monitoring Metrics On Sat, Jun 22 2013, Bruno Oliveira ~lychinus wrote: > So, long story short, is technically possible for me to create metrics > to make the API show up system_usage_metrics instead of simply > system_allocated_metrics ? (I guess I misunderstood, right?) > > Could you please enlight the path for me ? If you know how to retrieve the actual memory or disk used (rather than allocated) by a VM by measuring from outside the VM, please enlighten us. We (Ceilometer) don't know how to do that, that's why we don't do it actually. -- Julien Danjou ;; Free Software hacker ; freelance consultant ;; http://julien.danjou.info ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] [Ceilometer][Healthnmon] Dealing with Performance/Monitoring Metrics
On Sat, Jun 22 2013, Bruno Oliveira ~lychinus wrote: > So, long story short, is technically possible for me to create metrics > to make the API show up system_usage_metrics instead of simply > system_allocated_metrics ? (I guess I misunderstood, right?) > > Could you please enlight the path for me ? If you know how to retrieve the actual memory or disk used (rather than allocated) by a VM by measuring from outside the VM, please enlighten us. We (Ceilometer) don't know how to do that, that's why we don't do it actually. -- Julien Danjou ;; Free Software hacker ; freelance consultant ;; http://julien.danjou.info signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack] [Ceilometer][Healthnmon] Dealing with Performance/Monitoring Metrics
Dear stackers, please enlight me on something regarding Ceilometer/Healthnmon. So far as I've read and setup, Ceilometer is intended to get metrics for billing usage in larger interval polls. But so far, I've not seen reports of Memory Utilization, Disk Space Utilization or other System Utilization metrics. They're mostly "Memory Allocated", "Number of vCPUs", and etc. And checking out the Healthnmon projects, I can see that at the very-low level, the mechanism is pretty similiar. I even spotted the following: "(...)But in another usage scenario, what if the users want to get the relationship between different measurements? i.e. get all the available measurements related to a specific VM instance, e.g. CPU usage, disk IO usage, network information, storage volumes, …. In Ceilometer it would require extra post-processing of the 'resource_metadata' to find all the measurements. While in Healthnmon, the relationship is already in the data model so it's much easier. The difference between the two data model may comes from that Ceilometer is originally designed for metering, and Healthnmon is designed for monitoring(...)" https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ceilometer/CeilometerAndHealthnmon So, long story short, is technically possible for me to create metrics to make the API show up system_usage_metrics instead of simply system_allocated_metrics ? (I guess I misunderstood, right?) Could you please enlight the path for me ? I'm not sure if I got it right... I have seen the blueprints of the projects possibly unifying on Havanna release. But I'm looking for something I can do (for usage metrics) right now (Grizzly). Thank you in advance. -- Bruno Oliveira Developer, Software Engineer irc: lychinus | skype: brunnop.oliveira brunnop.olive...@gmail.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
