Re: [Openstack] Heterogeneous hardware support

2012-07-03 Thread John Paul Walters
Hi,

I'm not sure that I fully understand the security angle that you're getting at 
here, but you and Jay are right that we're focusing on adding heterogeneity to 
Openstack.  Right now we support large shared memory x86 machines, like SGI 
UVs, GPUs, and Tilera systems.  The blueprints you linked to probably need some 
updating, but they capture the gist of what we're up to.  So far, we've been 
focusing on HPC-style workloads.  But if you  had a security application that 
ran on one of the Tilera boxes, I see no reason why you couldn't use Openstack 
to provision it.

We'd be interested in hearing if there's anything in particular that our 
heterogeneous support is lacking that would enable, for example, cloud WAF or 
other security services.

best,
JP


On Jul 3, 2012, at 1:22 AM, balaji patnala wrote:

 Hi Jay,
  
 Thanks for information.
  
 As it is observed that there is some work going on by UCIS team for Folsom 
 release on Heterogeneous support.
  
 Please find the below link:
  
 i) http://wiki.openstack.org/ScheduleHeterogeneousInstances
 ii)
 http://wiki.openstack.org/HeterogeneousArchitectureScheduler
 
 which discusses about  support for Heterogeneous platform support for Open 
 Stack.
  
 Also in one of the document published by Rackspace, it is said that the 
 heterogeneous platform support can be done by having multiple Zones in the 
 cloud. But i doubt this way will have more performance impact and also have 
 more complex networking issues.
  
 It is observed that Essex Release is not supporting Zones and came to know 
 from mailing list that this support will be available in Folsom release as 
 Cells.
  
 I think  that this heterogeneous platform support will enable more options 
 for service providers and as well users for L2/L3 services applications like 
 security services,WAF,LB etc on different platforms in cloud network.
  
 Iam sorrry if the below queries didnt gave clear information.
 
 On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 12:04 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 07/02/2012 12:09 PM, balaji patnala wrote:
  Hi Jay,
 
  As you know that L2 and L3 services could be the next step of offering
  as Services from Cloud providers. Security Applications like
  WAF,IPS,Firewall,VPN etc can be offered as services. These security
  applications can be run in VMs on Heterogeneous hardware like Freescale
  and any other platforms.
 
 I'm not sure if heterogeneous hardware supported is specifically related
 to security, but ...
 
  Open Stack must support for the Heterogeneous hardware to enable
  different hardware platforms apart from x86.
 
 There's nothing about OpenStack, in general, that is specific to x86
 hardware. It's Python, so if the Linux distribution of your preference
 runs on some other hardware architecture, have at it. The images you
 deploy will need to be tailored to the hardware architecture, of course,
 but that isn't the realm of what OpenStack services do -- that's up to
 the deployer.
 
  Please share with us if you have any examples of similar deployments in
  Clouds.
 
 ISI is the group most actively working on heterogeneous architecture
 support, but I don't believe they are focusing on security-related
 things at all.
 
 Best,
 -jay
 
  On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com
  mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On 07/02/2012 01:23 AM, balaji patnala wrote:
   Hi,
  
   Does open stack [Essex] release support Heterogeneous hardware for
   creating VMs with Security Applications?
   If not, what is the road map for this. Please let me know.
 
  Could you please elaborate on what you mean by creating VMs with
  security applications?
 
  Thanks,
  -jay
 
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Re: [Openstack] Heterogeneous hardware support

2012-07-02 Thread Jay Pipes
On 07/02/2012 01:23 AM, balaji patnala wrote:
 Hi,
  
 Does open stack [Essex] release support Heterogeneous hardware for
 creating VMs with Security Applications?
 If not, what is the road map for this. Please let me know.

Could you please elaborate on what you mean by creating VMs with
security applications?

Thanks,
-jay

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Re: [Openstack] Heterogeneous hardware support

2012-07-02 Thread Jay Pipes
On 07/02/2012 12:09 PM, balaji patnala wrote:
 Hi Jay,
 
 As you know that L2 and L3 services could be the next step of offering
 as Services from Cloud providers. Security Applications like
 WAF,IPS,Firewall,VPN etc can be offered as services. These security
 applications can be run in VMs on Heterogeneous hardware like Freescale
 and any other platforms.

I'm not sure if heterogeneous hardware supported is specifically related
to security, but ...

 Open Stack must support for the Heterogeneous hardware to enable
 different hardware platforms apart from x86.

There's nothing about OpenStack, in general, that is specific to x86
hardware. It's Python, so if the Linux distribution of your preference
runs on some other hardware architecture, have at it. The images you
deploy will need to be tailored to the hardware architecture, of course,
but that isn't the realm of what OpenStack services do -- that's up to
the deployer.

 Please share with us if you have any examples of similar deployments in
 Clouds.

ISI is the group most actively working on heterogeneous architecture
support, but I don't believe they are focusing on security-related
things at all.

Best,
-jay

 On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com
 mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On 07/02/2012 01:23 AM, balaji patnala wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Does open stack [Essex] release support Heterogeneous hardware for
  creating VMs with Security Applications?
  If not, what is the road map for this. Please let me know.
 
 Could you please elaborate on what you mean by creating VMs with
 security applications?
 
 Thanks,
 -jay
 
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[Openstack] Heterogeneous hardware support

2012-07-01 Thread balaji patnala
Hi,

Does open stack [Essex] release support Heterogeneous hardware for creating
VMs with Security Applications?
If not, what is the road map for this. Please let me know.

Also, Please let me know about Heterogeneous Hardware deployment in
Cloud infrastructure we have right now.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Balaji.P
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