Re: [Openstack] User experience and simplified configurations
HI Aniruddha, If you don't find the documentation to be consistent with the behaviour, you might want to wait for this to get into the trunk: https://review.openstack.org/#change,5164 To get started, Devstack is my bet. Reading the devstack deployment and excercise scripts will be a lot helpful to understand the system and how different components work together. Hope it helps ! Cheers, Deepak On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Aniruddha Khadkikar askhadki...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Debo Dutta (dedutta) dedu...@cisco.com wrote: Have you tinkered with devstack …. Its simplifies some of the issues you raised for a dev guy. No, I have not used Devstack as the purpose is to simulate a close to production type POC and not a deployment on a single machine. Also we wanted to go through the documentation in detail to increase our understanding of the platform and implement the steps manually. Regards, Aniruddha From: openstack-bounces+dedutta=cisco@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-bounces+dedutta=cisco@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Aniruddha Khadkikar Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:03 PM To: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: [Openstack] User experience and simplified configurations Hi, Its only recently that I have started exploring openstack and the first thing that comes to my mind is the nature and amount of configuration required for the various components. The managed IT Deb packages for Diablo were very helpful in reaching a poc level implementation involving a separate cloud controller, volume and glance with swift and with a compute node. Are there any plans to simplify the configuration files and develop command line wizards for a better user experience? I believe that with every release an incrementally better experience will help in greater adoption of the platform. For example I could only get things working on my third trial. That too led to problems due to EC2 not working till a project was added using nova manage. I still remain confused between tenants and projects in Diablo. Logically one customer (tenant) should be able to run multiple projects. So I was a bit surprised at them being treated as equivalent. First target for simplification could be the various pipeline settings and the nova configuration. I have found these a bit complicated to understand. I have not started testing Essex yet. Regards Aniruddha ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] User experience and simplified configurations
Have you tinkered with devstack Its simplifies some of the issues you raised for a dev guy. debo From: openstack-bounces+dedutta=cisco@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-bounces+dedutta=cisco@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Aniruddha Khadkikar Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:03 PM To: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: [Openstack] User experience and simplified configurations Hi, Its only recently that I have started exploring openstack and the first thing that comes to my mind is the nature and amount of configuration required for the various components. The managed IT Deb packages for Diablo were very helpful in reaching a poc level implementation involving a separate cloud controller, volume and glance with swift and with a compute node. Are there any plans to simplify the configuration files and develop command line wizards for a better user experience? I believe that with every release an incrementally better experience will help in greater adoption of the platform. For example I could only get things working on my third trial. That too led to problems due to EC2 not working till a project was added using nova manage. I still remain confused between tenants and projects in Diablo. Logically one customer (tenant) should be able to run multiple projects. So I was a bit surprised at them being treated as equivalent. First target for simplification could be the various pipeline settings and the nova configuration. I have found these a bit complicated to understand. I have not started testing Essex yet. Regards Aniruddha ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] User experience and simplified configurations
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Debo Dutta (dedutta) dedu...@cisco.com wrote: Have you tinkered with devstack …. Its simplifies some of the issues you raised for a dev guy. No, I have not used Devstack as the purpose is to simulate a close to production type POC and not a deployment on a single machine. Also we wanted to go through the documentation in detail to increase our understanding of the platform and implement the steps manually. Regards, Aniruddha From: openstack-bounces+dedutta=cisco@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-bounces+dedutta=cisco@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Aniruddha Khadkikar Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:03 PM To: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: [Openstack] User experience and simplified configurations Hi, Its only recently that I have started exploring openstack and the first thing that comes to my mind is the nature and amount of configuration required for the various components. The managed IT Deb packages for Diablo were very helpful in reaching a poc level implementation involving a separate cloud controller, volume and glance with swift and with a compute node. Are there any plans to simplify the configuration files and develop command line wizards for a better user experience? I believe that with every release an incrementally better experience will help in greater adoption of the platform. For example I could only get things working on my third trial. That too led to problems due to EC2 not working till a project was added using nova manage. I still remain confused between tenants and projects in Diablo. Logically one customer (tenant) should be able to run multiple projects. So I was a bit surprised at them being treated as equivalent. First target for simplification could be the various pipeline settings and the nova configuration. I have found these a bit complicated to understand. I have not started testing Essex yet. Regards Aniruddha ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] User experience and simplified configurations
Then you might want to start with some of the chef cookbooks people use. Ask Jay Pipes, he was planning to consolidate them! debo -Original Message- From: Aniruddha Khadkikar [mailto:askhadki...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:37 PM To: Debo Dutta (dedutta) Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] User experience and simplified configurations On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Debo Dutta (dedutta) dedu...@cisco.com wrote: Have you tinkered with devstack Its simplifies some of the issues you raised for a dev guy. No, I have not used Devstack as the purpose is to simulate a close to production type POC and not a deployment on a single machine. Also we wanted to go through the documentation in detail to increase our understanding of the platform and implement the steps manually. Regards, Aniruddha From: openstack-bounces+dedutta=cisco@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-bounces+dedutta=cisco@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Aniruddha Khadkikar Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:03 PM To: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: [Openstack] User experience and simplified configurations Hi, Its only recently that I have started exploring openstack and the first thing that comes to my mind is the nature and amount of configuration required for the various components. The managed IT Deb packages for Diablo were very helpful in reaching a poc level implementation involving a separate cloud controller, volume and glance with swift and with a compute node. Are there any plans to simplify the configuration files and develop command line wizards for a better user experience? I believe that with every release an incrementally better experience will help in greater adoption of the platform. For example I could only get things working on my third trial. That too led to problems due to EC2 not working till a project was added using nova manage. I still remain confused between tenants and projects in Diablo. Logically one customer (tenant) should be able to run multiple projects. So I was a bit surprised at them being treated as equivalent. First target for simplification could be the various pipeline settings and the nova configuration. I have found these a bit complicated to understand. I have not started testing Essex yet. Regards Aniruddha ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
