Re: [Openstack] looking for a Nova scheduler filter plugin to boot nodes on named hosts

2012-10-16 Thread Gui Maluf
You may find what you want here:
http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/ch_scheduling.html

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Christian Parpart tra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 I am looking for a (Essex) Nova scheduler plugin that parses the
 scheduler_hints to get a hostname of the
 hypervisor to spawn the actual VM on, rejecting any other node.

  This allows us to explicitely spawn a VM on a certain host (yes, there
 are really usecases where you want that). :-)

 I was trying to build my own and searching around since I couldn't believe
 I was the only one, but didn't find one yet.

 Does anyone of you maybe have the skills to actually write that simple
 plugin, or even maybe knows where such
 a plugin has already been developed?

 Many thanks in advance,
 Christian Parpart.

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Re: [Openstack] looking for a Nova scheduler filter plugin to boot nodes on named hosts

2012-10-16 Thread GMI M
Hi Christian,

I think you might be able to use the existing filters in Essex.
For example, you can add the following lines in the nova.conf of the
controller host (or where nova-scheduler runs) and restart nova-scheduler:

isolated_hosts=nova7
isolated_images=sadsd1e35dfe63

This will allow you to run the image with ID sadsd1e35dfe63 only on the
compute host nova7.
You can also pass a list of compute servers in the isolated_hosts, if you
have the need.

I certainly see the use-case for this feature, for example when you want to
run Windows based instances and you don't want to buy a Windows datacenter
license for each nova-compute host, but only for a few that will run
Windows instances.

I hope this helps you.





On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Christian Parpart tra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 I am looking for a (Essex) Nova scheduler plugin that parses the
 scheduler_hints to get a hostname of the
 hypervisor to spawn the actual VM on, rejecting any other node.

 This allows us to explicitely spawn a VM on a certain host (yes, there are
 really usecases where you want that). :-)

 I was trying to build my own and searching around since I couldn't believe
 I was the only one, but didn't find one yet.

 Does anyone of you maybe have the skills to actually write that simple
 plugin, or even maybe knows where such
 a plugin has already been developed?

 Many thanks in advance,
 Christian Parpart.

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Re: [Openstack] looking for a Nova scheduler filter plugin to boot nodes on named hosts

2012-10-16 Thread Day, Phil
Hi Christian,

For a more general solution you might want to look at the code that supports 
passing in -availabilty_zone=az:host (look for forced_host in 
compute/api.py).  Currently this is limited to admin, but I think that should 
be changed to be a specific action that can be controlled by policy (we have a 
change in preparation for this).

Cheers,
Phil

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GMI M
Sent: 16 October 2012 15:13
To: Christian Parpart
Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net
Subject: Re: [Openstack] looking for a Nova scheduler filter plugin to boot 
nodes on named hosts

Hi Christian,

I think you might be able to use the existing filters in Essex.
For example, you can add the following lines in the nova.conf of the controller 
host (or where nova-scheduler runs) and restart nova-scheduler:

isolated_hosts=nova7
isolated_images=sadsd1e35dfe63

This will allow you to run the image with ID sadsd1e35dfe63 only on the 
compute host nova7.
You can also pass a list of compute servers in the isolated_hosts, if you have 
the need.

I certainly see the use-case for this feature, for example when you want to run 
Windows based instances and you don't want to buy a Windows datacenter license 
for each nova-compute host, but only for a few that will run Windows instances.

I hope this helps you.




On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Christian Parpart 
tra...@gmail.commailto:tra...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,

I am looking for a (Essex) Nova scheduler plugin that parses the 
scheduler_hints to get a hostname of the
hypervisor to spawn the actual VM on, rejecting any other node.

This allows us to explicitely spawn a VM on a certain host (yes, there are 
really usecases where you want that). :-)

I was trying to build my own and searching around since I couldn't believe I 
was the only one, but didn't find one yet.

Does anyone of you maybe have the skills to actually write that simple plugin, 
or even maybe knows where such
a plugin has already been developed?

Many thanks in advance,
Christian Parpart.

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Re: [Openstack] looking for a Nova scheduler filter plugin to boot nodes on named hosts

2012-10-16 Thread Christian Parpart
Hey all,

many thanks for your replies so far.

In general, I must say that there really is an absolute need for explicit
provisioning, that is, deciding by the admin what single host to prefer
(but still to reject when there're just no resources left of course).

- Filter like SameHost filter only works when there is already a host, and
then you've to look up and built up the correlation first (not a big
problem, but doesn't feel comfortable).
- IsolatedHosts filter doesn't make that much sense, as we are using one
general template-%{TIMESTAMP} to bootstrap some node and then set up
everything else inside, and we usually still may have more than one VM on
that compute node (e.g. a memcached VM and a postfix VM).
- availability zones, so I got told, are deprecated already (dunno) and I
can't give every compute node a different availability zone, as - tbh -
that's what I have hostnames for :-)

Philip, I'd really like to dive into developing such a plugin, let's call
it HostnameFilter-plugin, that the operator can pass one (or a set of)
hostname(s) that are allowed to spawn the VM on.
However, I just wrote Python once, and even dislike the syntax a bit, not
saying I hate it, but still :-)

Is there any guide (/tutorial) for reference (or hello_world nova scheduler
plugin) I can look at to learn on how to write such a plugin?

Many thanks for your replies so far,
Christian Parpart.

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Day, Phil philip@hp.com wrote:

  Hi Christian,

 ** **

 For a more general solution you might want to look at the code that
 supports passing in “—availabilty_zone=az:host” (look for forced_host in
 compute/api.py).  Currently this is limited to admin, but I think that
 should be changed to be a specific action that can be controlled by policy
 (we have a change in preparation for this).

 ** **

 Cheers,

 Phil

 ** **

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 M
 *Sent:* 16 October 2012 15:13
 *To:* Christian Parpart
 *Cc:* openstack@lists.launchpad.net
 *Subject:* Re: [Openstack] looking for a Nova scheduler filter plugin to
 boot nodes on named hosts

 ** **

 Hi Christian,

 I think you might be able to use the existing filters in Essex.
 For example, you can add the following lines in the nova.conf of the
 controller host (or where nova-scheduler runs) and restart nova-scheduler:

 isolated_hosts=nova7
 isolated_images=sadsd1e35dfe63

 This will allow you to run the image with ID sadsd1e35dfe63 only on the
 compute host nova7.
 You can also pass a list of compute servers in the isolated_hosts, if you
 have the need.

 I certainly see the use-case for this feature, for example when you want
 to run Windows based instances and you don't want to buy a Windows
 datacenter license for each nova-compute host, but only for a few that will
 run Windows instances.

 I hope this helps you.




 

 On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Christian Parpart tra...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi all,

 ** **

 I am looking for a (Essex) Nova scheduler plugin that parses the
 scheduler_hints to get a hostname of the

 hypervisor to spawn the actual VM on, rejecting any other node.

 ** **

 This allows us to explicitely spawn a VM on a certain host (yes, there are
 really usecases where you want that). :-)

 ** **

 I was trying to build my own and searching around since I couldn't believe
 I was the only one, but didn't find one yet.

 ** **

 Does anyone of you maybe have the skills to actually write that simple
 plugin, or even maybe knows where such

 a plugin has already been developed?

 ** **

 Many thanks in advance,

 Christian Parpart.


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Re: [Openstack] looking for a Nova scheduler filter plugin to boot nodes on named hosts

2012-10-16 Thread Day, Phil
Hi Chrsitian,

I'm not sure it's a great use case for a scheduler filter, as the filters are 
cumulative (so each filter only gets the hosts that the other filters in the 
stack have agreed are ok), and even before you get to the filters the host 
manager will take out from the list any of the hosts which are marked as 
disabled (and one of our use cases is to be able to schedule to a disable host).

The current forcing via the az name seems to me to be in the right place 
architecturally - so if we can change that from being admin only to gated on a 
specific keystone role (after all we still want to control how can do this) 
then it seems to me that all the rest of the capability is already there.

If you want to schedule to a specific subset of hosts then take a look at host 
aggregates - these were generalised in Folsom specifically to support this, and 
the scheduler is already aggregate aware.

Cheers,
Phil

From: Christian Parpart [mailto:tra...@gmail.com]
Sent: 16 October 2012 15:35
To: Day, Phil
Cc: GMI M; openstack@lists.launchpad.net
Subject: Re: [Openstack] looking for a Nova scheduler filter plugin to boot 
nodes on named hosts

Hey all,

many thanks for your replies so far.

In general, I must say that there really is an absolute need for explicit 
provisioning, that is, deciding by the admin what single host to prefer (but 
still to reject when there're just no resources left of course).

- Filter like SameHost filter only works when there is already a host, and then 
you've to look up and built up the correlation first (not a big problem, but 
doesn't feel comfortable).
- IsolatedHosts filter doesn't make that much sense, as we are using one 
general template-%{TIMESTAMP} to bootstrap some node and then set up 
everything else inside, and we usually still may have more than one VM on that 
compute node (e.g. a memcached VM and a postfix VM).
- availability zones, so I got told, are deprecated already (dunno) and I can't 
give every compute node a different availability zone, as - tbh - that's what I 
have hostnames for :-)

Philip, I'd really like to dive into developing such a plugin, let's call it 
HostnameFilter-plugin, that the operator can pass one (or a set of) hostname(s) 
that are allowed to spawn the VM on.
However, I just wrote Python once, and even dislike the syntax a bit, not 
saying I hate it, but still :-)

Is there any guide (/tutorial) for reference (or hello_world nova scheduler 
plugin) I can look at to learn on how to write such a plugin?

Many thanks for your replies so far,
Christian Parpart.
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Day, Phil 
philip@hp.commailto:philip@hp.com wrote:
Hi Christian,

For a more general solution you might want to look at the code that supports 
passing in -availabilty_zone=az:host (look for forced_host in 
compute/api.py).  Currently this is limited to admin, but I think that should 
be changed to be a specific action that can be controlled by policy (we have a 
change in preparation for this).

Cheers,
Phil

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openstack-bounces+philip.day=hp@lists.launchpad.netmailto:hp@lists.launchpad.net
 
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 On Behalf Of GMI M
Sent: 16 October 2012 15:13
To: Christian Parpart
Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.netmailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net
Subject: Re: [Openstack] looking for a Nova scheduler filter plugin to boot 
nodes on named hosts

Hi Christian,

I think you might be able to use the existing filters in Essex.
For example, you can add the following lines in the nova.conf of the controller 
host (or where nova-scheduler runs) and restart nova-scheduler:

isolated_hosts=nova7
isolated_images=sadsd1e35dfe63

This will allow you to run the image with ID sadsd1e35dfe63 only on the 
compute host nova7.
You can also pass a list of compute servers in the isolated_hosts, if you have 
the need.

I certainly see the use-case for this feature, for example when you want to run 
Windows based instances and you don't want to buy a Windows datacenter license 
for each nova-compute host, but only for a few that will run Windows instances.

I hope this helps you.



On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Christian Parpart 
tra...@gmail.commailto:tra...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,

I am looking for a (Essex) Nova scheduler plugin that parses the 
scheduler_hints to get a hostname of the
hypervisor to spawn the actual VM on, rejecting any other node.

This allows us to explicitely spawn a VM on a certain host (yes, there are 
really usecases where you want that). :-)

I was trying to build my own and searching around since I couldn't believe I 
was the only one, but didn't find one yet.

Does anyone of you maybe have the skills to actually write that simple plugin, 
or even maybe knows where such
a plugin has already been developed?

Many thanks in advance,
Christian Parpart.

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[Openstack] looking for a Nova scheduler filter plugin to boot nodes on named hosts

2012-10-15 Thread Christian Parpart
Hi all,

I am looking for a (Essex) Nova scheduler plugin that parses the
scheduler_hints to get a hostname of the
hypervisor to spawn the actual VM on, rejecting any other node.

This allows us to explicitely spawn a VM on a certain host (yes, there are
really usecases where you want that). :-)

I was trying to build my own and searching around since I couldn't believe
I was the only one, but didn't find one yet.

Does anyone of you maybe have the skills to actually write that simple
plugin, or even maybe knows where such
a plugin has already been developed?

Many thanks in advance,
Christian Parpart.
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