Re: [openstack-dev] [all][release] summit session summary: Release Versioning for Server Applications

2015-06-01 Thread Donald Stufft
2.25.0.8 or so. That’s mostly just a semantic thing (except for ) not any functional reason. --- Donald Stufft PGP: 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][pbr] splitting our deployment vs install dependencies

2015-04-15 Thread Donald Stufft
On Apr 15, 2015, at 5:06 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Joe Gordon wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Chris Dent chd...@redhat.com mailto:chd...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, Joe Gordon wrote: deploy requirements - requirements.txt - which are

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][pbr] fixing up pbr's master branch

2015-03-18 Thread Donald Stufft
that using one is equivalent to using the other. --- Donald Stufft PGP: 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail __ OpenStack Development Mailing List

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] pip wheel' requires the 'wheel' package

2015-03-12 Thread Donald Stufft
Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev --- Donald Stufft PGP: 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA signature.asc Description: Message signed

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable][requirements] External dependency caps introduced in 499db6b

2015-02-18 Thread Donald Stufft
On Feb 18, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2015, at 10:07 AM, Donald Stufft wrote: On Feb 18, 2015, at 10:00 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2015, at 03:17 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2015

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable][requirements] External dependency caps introduced in 499db6b

2015-02-18 Thread Donald Stufft
different files, but if you’re putting ``==`` specifiers into the install_requires of various projects, then I believe that is going to cause a fairly large amount of pain. --- Donald Stufft PGP: 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Lets keep our community open, lets fight for it

2015-02-11 Thread Donald Stufft
there are decisions being made via a single channel, regardless of if that channel is a phone call, IRC, a mailing list, or a design summit. The more channels any particular decision involves the more likely it is nobody is going to feel like they didn't get a chance to participate. --- Donald Stufft PGP

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][Artifacts] Object Version format: SemVer vs pep440

2015-02-10 Thread Donald Stufft
documentations would be written on top of PEP 440 to add opinions on what a version looks like within the framework that PEP 440 sets up. A great example is the pbr semver document that Monty linked. --- Donald Stufft PGP: 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra][project-config][oslo.messaging] Pre-driver requirements split-up initiative

2015-02-06 Thread Donald Stufft
on this in other projects like: setup( install_requires=[myproject[somename]=1.0], ) --- Donald Stufft PGP: 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] SQL Schema Downgrades and Related Issues

2015-01-29 Thread Donald Stufft
from backup. Giving them downgrade scripts will imply that they work, which they probably will not once actual data is involved. +1 on disabling downgrades. --- Donald Stufft PGP: 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA

Re: [openstack-dev] oslo.db 1.3.0 released

2014-12-15 Thread Donald Stufft
pkg_resources.VersionConflict: SQLAlchemy 0.8.4 is installed but SQLAlchemy=0.9.7,=0.9.99 is required by ['oslo.db'] -Sean It should probably use the specifier from Juno which matches the old specifier in functionality. --- Donald Stufft PGP: 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA

Re: [openstack-dev] oslo.db 1.3.0 released

2014-12-15 Thread Donald Stufft
On Dec 15, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 12/15/2014 01:53 PM, Donald Stufft wrote: On Dec 15, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 12/15/2014 12:01 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2014-12-15 11:53:07 -0500 (-0500), Doug Hellmann wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] suds-jurko, new in our global-requirements.txt: what is the point?!?

2014-11-26 Thread Donald Stufft
, and which will conflict with the suds package? It looks like it uses 2to3 to become Python 3 compatible. --- Donald Stufft PGP: 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Add a new aiogreen executor for Oslo Messaging

2014-11-23 Thread Donald Stufft
: https://glyph.twistedmatrix.com/2014/02/unyielding.html. --- Donald Stufft PGP: 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Add a new aiogreen executor for Oslo Messaging

2014-11-23 Thread Donald Stufft
get an implicit context switch in the middle of a function. Compare that to the implicit async where the failure mode is that at runtime something weird happens. --- Donald Stufft PGP: 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA ___ OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Add a new aiogreen executor for Oslo Messaging

2014-11-23 Thread Donald Stufft
” of the abstractions you’re citing I’d personally much rather pass on it. --- Donald Stufft PGP: 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Add a new aiogreen executor for Oslo Messaging

2014-11-23 Thread Donald Stufft
On Nov 23, 2014, at 7:55 PM, Mike Bayer mba...@redhat.com wrote: On Nov 23, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote: On Nov 23, 2014, at 7:21 PM, Mike Bayer mba...@redhat.com wrote: Given that, I’ve yet to understand why a system that implicitly defers CPU use when

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Add a new aiogreen executor for Oslo Messaging

2014-11-23 Thread Donald Stufft
On Nov 23, 2014, at 9:09 PM, Mike Bayer mba...@redhat.com wrote: On Nov 23, 2014, at 8:23 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote: I don’t really take performance issues that seriously for CPython. If you care about performance you should be using PyPy. I like that argument though

Re: [openstack-dev] No PROTOCOL_SSLv3 in Python 2.7 in Sid since 3 days

2014-11-22 Thread Donald Stufft
On Nov 22, 2014, at 1:45 AM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: On 22 November 2014 08:11, Jeremy Stanley fu...@yuggoth.org wrote: On 2014-11-21 12:31:08 -0500 (-0500), Donald Stufft wrote: Death to SSLv3 IMO. Sure, we should avoid releasing new versions of things which

Re: [openstack-dev] No PROTOCOL_SSLv3 in Python 2.7 in Sid since 3 days

2014-11-22 Thread Donald Stufft
: On 2014-11-22 13:37:55 -0500 (-0500), Donald Stufft wrote: Yes this. SSLv3 isn’t a “Well as long as you have newer things enabled it’s fine” it’s a “If you have this enabled at all it’s a problem”. As far as I am aware without TLS_FALLBACK_SCSV a MITM who is willing to do active attacks can

Re: [openstack-dev] No PROTOCOL_SSLv3 in Python 2.7 in Sid since 3 days

2014-11-22 Thread Donald Stufft
uses a secure option when both a secure and an insecure option exist. http://crypto.stackexchange.com/a/10496 On Nov 22, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote: I'm in my phone but rfc 2246 says that there are many ways in which an attacker can attempt to make an attacker

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-21 Thread Donald Stufft
looks up that mapping, fetches the git repository and then uses that as the input to the “look at metadata and do stuff with files” part of the package manager instead of the output of an un-unarchival command. --- Donald Stufft PGP: 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-21 Thread Donald Stufft
On Nov 21, 2014, at 11:32 AM, Jeremy Stanley fu...@yuggoth.org wrote: On 2014-11-21 07:31:36 -0500 (-0500), Donald Stufft wrote: You can’t. Bower doesn’t have “traditional” packages where you take a directory and archive it using tar/zip/whatever and then upload it to some repo. Bower has

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-21 Thread Donald Stufft
On Nov 21, 2014, at 11:57 AM, Jeremy Stanley fu...@yuggoth.org wrote: On 2014-11-21 11:39:00 -0500 (-0500), Donald Stufft wrote: Well it’s a git repository, so you could just clone it and look at it. Aha, your earlier description made it sound like Bower was a file registry mapping

Re: [openstack-dev] No PROTOCOL_SSLv3 in Python 2.7 in Sid since 3 days

2014-11-21 Thread Donald Stufft
://launchpad.net/bugs/1381365 is relevant to this topic. -- Jeremy Stanley Death to SSLv3 IMO. --- Donald Stufft PGP: 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-14 Thread Donald Stufft
On Nov 14, 2014, at 7:48 AM, Matthias Runge mru...@redhat.com wrote: On 13/11/14 19:11, Donald Stufft wrote: As far as I’m aware npm supports TLS the same as pip does. That secures the transport between the end users and the repository so you can be assured that there is no man

Re: [openstack-dev] improving PyPi modules design FHS (was: the future of angularjs development in Horizon)

2014-11-14 Thread Donald Stufft
On Nov 13, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: On 11/14/2014 06:40 AM, Donald Stufft wrote: Sure! That's how I do most of my Python modules these days. I don't just create them from scratch, I use my own debpypi script, which generates a template for packaging

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-14 Thread Donald Stufft
On Nov 14, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: On 11/14/2014 08:48 PM, Matthias Runge wrote: On 13/11/14 19:11, Donald Stufft wrote: As far as I’m aware npm supports TLS the same as pip does. That secures the transport between the end users and the repository so you

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-14 Thread Donald Stufft
certificate we want, now it’s just a matter of selecting CAs and the political process. --- Donald Stufft PGP: 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-13 Thread Donald Stufft
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-13 Thread Donald Stufft
On Nov 13, 2014, at 5:23 PM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: On 11/14/2014 02:11 AM, Donald Stufft wrote: On Nov 13, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: On 11/13/2014 10:56 PM, Martin Geisler wrote: However, the whole JavaScript ecosystem seems to be centered

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] dropping namespace packages

2014-11-12 Thread Donald Stufft
repository both will be called “oslo.foo” and the import statement would look like “from oslo_foo import bar”. Doug [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-namespace-packages [2] https://review.openstack.org/128759 +1 for whatever my vote is worth :) --- Donald Stufft PGP: 7C6B

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-12 Thread Donald Stufft
is sharing it so jshint is going to rebase off of the “Crockford” version and onto the Eclipse version. --- Donald Stufft PGP: 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http

Re: [openstack-dev] Cross distribution talks on Friday

2014-11-10 Thread Donald Stufft
pbr.version do? --- Donald Stufft PGP: 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-19 Thread Donald Stufft
requests bundling urllib3 ;) --- Donald Stufft PGP: 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-19 Thread Donald Stufft
On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Mark Washenberger mark.washenber...@markwash.net wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io mailto:don...@stufft.io wrote: On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:54 AM, Brant Knudson b...@acm.org mailto:b...@acm.org wrote: I don't

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-19 Thread Donald Stufft
On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Chmouel Boudjnah chmo...@enovance.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io mailto:don...@stufft.io wrote: So you can remove all that code and just let requests/urllib3 handle it on 3.2+, 2.7.9+ and for anything less than

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Donald Stufft
of the classes. If that wasn’t imported from requests.packages.urllib3 but instead from just urllib3 than the isinstance check would always fail. --- Donald Stufft PGP: 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Donald Stufft
be the end users. Distributions are not the only place that people get their software from, unless you think that the ~3 million downloads requests has received on PyPI in the last 30 days are distributions downloading requests to package in their OSs. --- Donald Stufft PGP: 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Donald Stufft
On Sep 18, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Chmouel Boudjnah chmo...@enovance.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io mailto:don...@stufft.io wrote: Distributions are not the only place that people get their software from, unless you think that the ~3 million

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Donald Stufft
aware. --- Donald Stufft PGP: 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Donald Stufft
one occasion and he’s very happy with his decision to vendor urllib3, but hey maybe Openstack would have better luck. --- Donald Stufft PGP: 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-17 Thread Donald Stufft
I don't know the specific situation but it's appropriate to do this if you're using requests and wish to interact with the urllib3 that requests is using. On Sep 17, 2014, at 11:15 AM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: Hi, I'm horrified by what I just found. I have just found out this

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-17 Thread Donald Stufft
Looking at the code on my phone it looks completely correct to use the vendored copy here and it wouldn't actually work otherwise. On Sep 17, 2014, at 11:17 AM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote: I don't know the specific situation but it's appropriate to do this if you're using

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-17 Thread Donald Stufft
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Re: [openstack-dev] pbr alpha and dev version handling

2014-09-17 Thread Donald Stufft
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Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [glance] python namespaces considered harmful to development, lets not introduce more of them

2014-08-27 Thread Donald Stufft
to iterate over ``foo.*``, however I’d just recommend using entry points instead of trying to do magic based on the name. --- Donald Stufft PGP: 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] pypi-mirror is now unsupported - what do we do now?

2014-07-09 Thread Donald Stufft
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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] pypi-mirror is now unsupported - what do we do now?

2014-07-09 Thread Donald Stufft
if they exist on PyPI already. - Donald Stufft PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Adopting pylockfile

2014-06-23 Thread Donald Stufft
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] versioning and releases

2014-06-10 Thread Donald Stufft
would include 1.2a0 and higher, and “less than 1.3”. Unfortunately that’s a bit wonky still because 1.3a0 is technically 1.3 so it’d match too. At least until we finish implementing PEP 440. - Donald Stufft PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] use of the oslo namespace package

2014-04-08 Thread Donald Stufft
of namespace packages (under the hood). However there is no one single way to install a namespace package that works for all 3ish ways to install a package. Relevant: https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/3 - Donald Stufft PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9

Re: [openstack-dev] Issues with Python Requests

2014-04-04 Thread Donald Stufft
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Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-19 Thread Donald Stufft
that feature, and then you have to decide if that feature is useful to you and if you’ll need to add a dependency or write less battle tested code in order to get it). - Donald Stufft PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA signature.asc

Re: [openstack-dev] universal wheel support

2014-02-08 Thread Donald Stufft
are supposed to be used to determine which Wheel is most likely to be compatible with the environment that is being installed into, it is not designed to restrict which environments a project supports. There is metadata for that in the new PEPs but nothing supports it yet. - Donald

Re: [openstack-dev] universal wheel support

2014-02-08 Thread Donald Stufft
On Feb 8, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote: Techincally you can upload a Wheel that supports any Python version, but I don’t believe it’s exposed in the Wheel software at all. This is supposed to be “any Python2 version”. - Donald Stufft PGP

Re: [openstack-dev] why do we put a license in every file?

2014-02-05 Thread Donald Stufft
It's nice when someone removes a file from the project. They get license information transmitted automatically without needing to do extra work. On Feb 5, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2014-02-05 at 16:29 +, Greg Hill wrote: I'm new, so I'm sure there's

Re: [openstack-dev] olso.config error on running Devstack

2014-02-05 Thread Donald Stufft
Avoiding namespace packages is a good idea in general. At least until Python 3.whatever is baseline. On Feb 5, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Doug Hellmann doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Ben Nemec openst...@nemebean.com wrote: On 2014-02-05 09:05, Doug

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or straight to oslo.vmware

2014-01-28 Thread Donald Stufft
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Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-18 Thread Donald Stufft
. Most Linux distros and such ship with it disabled by default now IIRC. - Donald Stufft PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail

Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-18 Thread Donald Stufft
. Keeping them all under one project will make it far easier to have a cohesive API amongst all the various services, it will reduce duplication of efforts, as well as make it easier to track security updates and I believe a wholly superior end user experience. - Donald Stufft PGP

Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-16 Thread Donald Stufft
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Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-16 Thread Donald Stufft
on a particular implementation, but as an idea it could be at least thought of. Sounds a little bit crazy though, I recognize it :). Renat Akhmerov On 16 Jan 2014, at 11:52, Chmouel Boudjnah chmo...@enovance.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-16 Thread Donald Stufft
) and be REST and/or Hypermedia. Things like WADL are completely antagonistic to actual REST (aka Hypermedia). - Donald Stufft PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail

Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-16 Thread Donald Stufft
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